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Offline Contracts

Discussion in 'Offline Marketing' started by supermat007, Sep 13, 2010.

  1. supermat007

    supermat007 Regular Member

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    When do you need to have / use a contract when doing offline work, and how do you know you will need to use one or not?

    Then who do you go to / what do you do about it?

    It seems in all offline guides there's never any talk about contacts.
     
  2. supermat007

    supermat007 Regular Member

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    Anyone?
     
  3. oxonbeef

    oxonbeef BANNED BANNED

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    I won't do a thing without a contract or a schedule of work to be carried out. I have everything what is expected
    from them as well as the services I will perform. I have contracts pre drawn for every
    occasion.
    Never allow your clients legal team draw up a contract.
    I make sure I have 1 point of contact within their company that I can call on who's job
    it is to supply me with images, company info ect, access to their hosting if they have it
    and previous webmasters who just love to try and throw spanners in your works.
    all my legal docs have been looked over by a solicitor and are signed by both parties
    so we both have an obligation to meet.
    Edit.
    No business will take you seriously without a contract.
    If you check out some of the more professional consulting packages (not WSO's)
    They include contract drafts, initial letters, proposals, schedules ect. I would
    love to share some of the stuff I have concerning offline consulting however
    they don't cover any internet marketing only how to run your business and that
    is not consistent with this board.
     
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  4. supermat007

    supermat007 Regular Member

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    Thanks for the tips.

    But would contacts come into it for one time jobs?

    Say, build a site?
    Or even, sell them some ad space for 1 month trail?
    Or sell them a pack of 10,000 business cards?

    I understand they are defiantly needed in monthly paying deals. Just not sure how to go about the one time sales.
     
  5. inumel

    inumel Senior Member

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    its always best to get a contract for everything bro. Whether 1 time job or anything. The reason being, with this current day and age. people are suing crazy as is. And you want to make sure you know your obligations and the client know their's bro.
     
  6. tubeincreaser

    tubeincreaser Regular Member

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    You need a contract for everything, they cannot sue you as long as you follow through on your deal. One-time sales can be with/out contracts depending on you.
     
  7. MisterGemini

    MisterGemini Senior Member

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    A one time sale require basically just an itemized invoice. However, when it comes to building a site, that is usually far from just being a deliverable item. There is always edits and changes etc. You once again, will need a contact outlining exactly what they are receiving, and what other services will cost more than what they are paying for. Otherwise you are going to be blow-back clients that expected certain things were included with it.

    Contacts are good for not only making your life less troubling, but to maintain a healthy relationship with the clients.

    Go ahead and just invoice clients for now, see how it goes. There will be one client you work with where you will be tearing your hair out wishing you could just make them go away. It's at that point you will discover the value of contracts, and see their need. :)
     
  8. Chronos

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    Contracts = "Better safe than sorry"
     
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  9. seanjohn

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    I use my contracts to clearly define the scope of the project.

    Therefore, I charge more if the client wants more stuff done, such as extra revisions, pages, etc.
     
  10. PoolShark

    PoolShark Registered Member

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    Resources for contracts that IM Consultants could use would be really useful if anybody has those contracts and/or resources available to share.

    Best,

    Pool Shark
     
  11. oxonbeef

    oxonbeef BANNED BANNED

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    I think so too. I have Gigs of stuff relating to business and after all IM is a business. However before I start posting stuff I'll have a word with a download mod and see what's viable.
    I'm in the UK and everything I do if through my Ltd company, whether offline or IM I really think people need to take a professional approach if they want to be successful. Perhaps we should make a suggestion for a offline dowload section where we can post stuff relating to contracts, positioning, cold calling, sales ect. We are selling online services but does
    it fit in with the genre of the board?
     
  12. Rhazha

    Rhazha Junior Member

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    We do have a Offline Marketing Section, but is visible only through the "Making Money" tab.
    But It's not visible on the home page. You need to go through the "Main Forums" tab to see it at first.

    Maybe we could request a "Offline Marketing" tab to be Visible on the "Home" page as well.


    I am in (even though my vote doesn't count for s**t!):jerry:
     
  13. oxonbeef

    oxonbeef BANNED BANNED

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    I'm aware we have an offline marketing section I'm posting in it. However we don't have
    an offline marketing download section where we can post things relating to running your
    business rather than IM related stuff.
    And I'll take your vote.
     
  14. Rhazha

    Rhazha Junior Member

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    Of course I know that you know Oxonbeef, it was not intended to you.
    The "GPS" assistance was geared towards new members like myself.
    It took me some time to know of the existence of the section.

    Thanks for taking my vote.

    P.S. When I wrote "you need to go..." It meant "we, people, members"
     
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  15. oxonbeef

    oxonbeef BANNED BANNED

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    No offence meant. I do know what you mean I even forget it's here sometimes
    unless a post comes up in the main forum.
     
  16. grafxextreme

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    Don't over complicate the contract. Keep it to one page. Don't promise anything. Tell them what you're offering. Tell them how much. Put in a disclaimer that you make no guarantees to sales or profits. Keep it simple.

    The longer your contract is the more likely they are to say no to it. My firm provides quite a bit of services to our clients but we can get everything into one page. Life is much simpler for both you and your client.

    I agree with everyone else. Get contract for everything. Problems arise when the client expects one thing and you're offering something else. A contract simply outlines what the client can expect and how much you're charging.

    Hint: Speak English rather than legalese.
     
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    BorisTipsIt Regular Member

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    If it is in writing, it is binding. If it was a verbal promise, doesn't mean squat. Ran into this problem.
     
  18. Axelz

    Axelz Registered Member

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    Anybody willing to share sample contracts and agreements?

    Thank you.
     
  19. profit282

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    Anyone can share some sample contracts and agreements?
     
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    Cnotey Power Member

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    I write contracts for my day job. If anyone wants some written up, I can do that.