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Official EPN Cancellation Announcement

Discussion in 'Ebay' started by tatsu, Aug 22, 2008.

  1. tatsu

    tatsu Newbie

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    Here is the official EPN representative announcement regarding the cancellations.

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    http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=520001583&tstart=0&mod=1219362646807
    
     
  2. applebutton

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    Maybe this is an attempt by ebay to guilt black hatters in to changing our ways. According to them because of us they had to ruin 100's maybe 1000's of hardworking people's businesses. They are so clever!
     
  3. darkincome

    darkincome BANNED BANNED

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    fuck them. lol im still coding for epn, straight up their ass.
     
  4. Diabolik

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    I have one Ebay affiliate site that is pure white hat and I have never done anything black hat or even gray in regards to Ebay. I still haven't been booted or threatened, but I can't help but keep checking my email to see if I got the boot yet. This blows.
     
  5. mazemiami

    mazemiami BANNED BANNED

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    Kinda makes you want to fuk them even harder.. ebay has lost there minds
     
  6. BozoClown

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    Basically the algorithm just got all those accounts that were "staying under the radar" and gave them a boot.
     
  7. BlackSmack

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    Didn't someone mention a few weeks ago something about ebay cracking down?, yes they did, let me find it ;D
     
  8. dvdcowboy

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    Maybe you could sell egay some sort of super undetectable code to catch cookie stuffers for like $1000.

    That would teach them!
     
  9. arbitorx

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    heres my take on the situation. In the Past 2 months, there have been a huge boom in cookie stuffing, I mean it went from barely finding anything on the subject , to full blown blog sites ect... Ebay had to know that there where massive amounts of people cookie stuffing. I sure there affiliate pay our went sky high recently....

    Now most people who stuff, tried to stay under the radar. and ebay doesnt have the time to go and check every accounts traffic. So Lots people make 50 - 100 daily stuffing under the radar for the past few months.

    Ebay needed to devise a way to catch all these under the radar stuffers. and they took examples of pure white hat site stats. Stats we wouldnt think of like, after a user clicks an affiliate link, how many times they revisit ebay ect.. and guess what bingo, the habits of someone who knowingly clicked an ebay ad link, are going to be different to the habits, of someone whos computer got stuffed and maybe doesnt even use ebay. Think of it say you stuffed 10k computers with your cookie, and maybe not even half even log onto ebay, thats alot different actions than if you got 10k real ebay users clicking on your affiliate link bringing them to a targeted item.....
     
  10. tonlilaz

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  11. madinaz

    madinaz BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    I feel bad for the whitehat people who got kicked out. I guess I'm lucky because I haven't lost any of my accounts with them yet
     
  12. tonlilaz

    tonlilaz Executive VIP Premium Member

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    and the whitehat folks start crawling over this way, tempted by the dark side of the force. :yield:

    either that or they give up
     
  13. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    Fuck eGay except for selling.
     
  14. oldenstylehats

    oldenstylehats Elite Member Premium Member

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    I guarantee one of the behavior metrics they are talking about is something as simple as tracking whether the individual who "clicks" an EPN link moves around to more than the initial page on eBay that they were sent to. Though many real users will look at that first page and then leave, it is statistically unlikely that ALL users sent from a specific affiliate would behave that way.
     
  15. Gogeta

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    Its nice to know i fucked egay over 6k with cs. :D
     
  16. yuppy

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    lol. i never stuffed EPN kuz they were too ban happy from the get go.... god im such a pussy
     
  17. Profit

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    That is exactly what it is.
     
  18. applebutton

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    I think we might be mistakenly assuming that ebay did this in response to us black hatters. If that was the case that was a really stupid way to try and get us and I think we all can name tons of reasons why (but we know better not to in a public forum).
    I think this was some metrics nerd misguided attempt to make epn "more efficient". And he/she confused the poor higher ups who actually have some sort of business sense but little internet savvy with talks of "engaged traffic" so they OK'ed the move.
    Hopefully there is such a backlash that they don't go through with the bans or don't ban again for a long time. Either way a large backlash benefits us.