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New to SEO, Not New to IM, quick question.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Souljerr, Mar 7, 2014.

  1. Souljerr

    Souljerr Regular Member

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    Hello everyone,

    As the title states, I have done some IM in the past but it was primarily Social Network marketing for an offline business I was running (Club Promotions) for about two and a half (2.5) years.

    I am looking to start diving into SEO and I am willing to learn it but I am having a bit of trouble completely understanding how SEO works exactly.

    Are there any great explanatory threads that you guys would be willing to recommend that would help me grasp and understand how SEO works and what exactly it takes to build backlinks and pyramids?

    Thank you for your time. For those who chime in to refer me to the search feature, please excuse yourself from the thread. I am not new to how the forum works and its features, I find that me searching for effective methods when I don't completely already understand how SEO works would be less productive than asking those of you who are experienced in SEO.

    Thank you again,
    Souljerr
     
  2. masteraffmarket

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    My question to you is why you just now want to learn seo in 2014. Its a whole
    new ball game and at this point the learning curve is very steep. It might make more
    sense in your case to just outsource the work since you are already successful
    in IM.
     
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    2008 or 2014 not much changes. Theres an algo to rank and we just have to find which is.
     
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    Do you have a decent budget or you looking to do churn and burn on the cheap? I do SEO consulting, but only for people with budgets and want to learn long term methods. Feel free to contact me.
     
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    I'm sort of in the same boat as OP. But I'm new to IM (about 3 months or so). Thanks for the links above, will go through them now :D
     
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  7. Souljerr

    Souljerr Regular Member

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    Thank you for the reply, I've debated on outsourcing the task to others. I think that it would of course much more beneficial to take that route, although with my minimal knowledge of SEO it would be difficult to understand the progress being made via those outsourced services. Also, I would like to understand more about keyword research to better serve a client or to better serve a project of my own.

    Would you perhaps have anyone in mind for outsourcing the task to? out of curiosity, if it is a private matter I understand.

    thank you very much sasha, I appreciate the list of links and the reply. I do understand the meaning of SEO, Search Engine Optimization, I just never took the time to necessarily study and learn it. Now that I look back on it, I do wish that I would've learned it back then but at the same time... it can never be too late to learn something new :).

    I think I am more in the budget of the churn and burn but depending on the price of your consultancy, I may be able to afford it. I'll go ahead and shoot you a PM.

    Thank you Juubv for your reply, I do hope that you are able to absorb as much information as possible from this thread. Also, I would like to welcome you to the BHW community :)
     
  8. Jcouch

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    First off, I'd read a few of the things referenced in this thread. Just to get your head in the right place, more than anything else.

    Second, Seo is 9 parts research and 1 part black magic. So after reading up on the basics, ignore any manual, system, or secret strategy you come across.

    Instead, do this:

    -Grab an Ahrefs, and Majestic SEO account. Semrush is helpful to.
    -Research, research, research. Look at all the top sites in your given niche (Across a broad base of profitable keywords - but stay niche specific.)
    -Repeat what your competitors are doing. Ideally, find a way to do the same thing more efficiently.

    If the other guy has high quality links, you can buy those. If he has an aged domain, you can dig one up on flippa. If he has better content, you can outsource that. If he has a active social media presence, well hell, you can outsource that to.

    Dont think "Research" just means looking at your competitors links though. Look at the links of the links. The PR, the reg dates, the mozrank. Look at his site structure, where links are going, and so on.

    This is time consuming, but I guarantee if you spend a week seriously applying this kind of research methodology to the top 100 or so sites in your niche - you will know what works.

    When you move to the next niche? The same strategy may or may not work. As of 2014, I find (few) constant in SEO across different niches. Yes high quality links are good, age is important, and so on, but each niche has its own "Flavor".

    TLDR: Research the hell out of the top 10 sites for around 10 primary money keywords in your niche. Replicate what they do. Profit.
     
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  9. rodvan

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    You should look for the MOZCon videos all over the net.
    I recall Team Tree house has the 2013 CON.
    Before learning SEO you need to start knowing the difference between ON-SITE SEO and OFF-SITE SEO.
     
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  10. Souljerr

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    Thank you very much for this information, I actually read the whole post btw haha. I'll be sure to get started in executing the methods you presented!

    Thank you rodvan, I'll start looking into those videos.. I find that I learn much better when I can visually see and understand what is going on.
    and I'm glad you mentioned the ON-Site and Off-Site SEO thing because I had very little understanding aside from the obvious in both respective.
     
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    There are hundreds of threads, journeys and case studies here, do some reading and then get stuck in, it's the best way to learn.
     
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    I am in the same boat as you are. I almost bought the MikeLong OMG...SuperJejuzzThisIsAmazingSEOSecrets course, but didn't due to being unable to really justify spending $5000. The same night I came across Cash202's incredible posts on his SEO blueprint at http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...lueprint-senuke-amr-bmd-xrumer-scrapebox.html .

    Also check out my recreation, in honor to Cash202, of his Social Media Management chart at http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ad-cash202-social-media-management-chart.html
     
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  13. Souljerr

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    Thank you for your reply David, I definitely appreciate the feedback. I think that my main issue is finding the journeys, case studies, or threads that have been deemed successful and such.

    The other key component that I believe I am lacking is that I dont necessarily understand the basics of SEO, such as how to build backlinks and why we actually build them and such.

    Threads, journeys, and case studies can all be of GREAT information and knowledge (learn from others mistakes, instead of having to learn from your own per se), But without the fundamentals, I think it becomes difficult to follow what exactly the above mentioned are teaching.

    Thank you AboutBizz, I greatly appreciate the links. I will check them out as well. I'm at that same point where I know that I know nothing about SEO yet, so to justify spending the money on programs that can multiply productivity is difficult for me. Simply because I don't exactly know the effectiveness and the basics enough to demand more productivity for.
     
  14. Jubv

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    Thanks Souljerr! I went through the links that Sasha provided and I guess I have a better understanding now. I think my on site SEO is good considering the age of my site and my IM experience, so I just need to focus on building backlinks and such.

    Recently bought Scrapebox so I guess I'll go through the user guide of that next..

    Feel free to send me a PM if you wanna discuss SEO or anything :D
     
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    Noooo... don't do it. Scrapebox is both unnecessary and wildly dangerous in this era of SEO.
    You're better off building quality 2.0's. That's literally all you need in order to rank in most easy to medium comp terms.
     
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  16. Jubv

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    I thought scrapebox was mainly used to build backlinks, is this not a safe method? I'm also a bit confused about web 2.0's, am I supposed to post content on there which is already on my main site?
    My site is in the health & fitness niche so it's pretty high competition.
     
  17. InsanelySane

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    I was making more money before I knew of SEO>

    Now that I know what to do from my past 2 weeks of compulsive research there are too many fucking doors to walk through Im in the middle of the room jerking off.
     
  18. Biznik

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    if your site is about "get 6 pack abs", then create web 2.0s like "Bob's Fitness Journey", "useful fitness info" etc. like they're your money sites, link back to your own real site, and blast links.