New to Instagram - Question about aged PVA Accounts & VPS & Proxy

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  1. Tekevic

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    Hey Guys,

    i'm about to start my Instagram Journey but first i have to understand all the basic things i need to know in order to be successful in this business.
    So i would be very thankful if some of you could share your experiences and knowledge with me.

    1) Aged PVA Accounts
    I`ve read a lot about PVA aged Accounts and i'll probably buy some of them, but why are they so much better than new accounts ? And if i get a Phone Verify Request how can handle this request without having access to all these numbers to verify each account ?

    2) VPS
    Think about starting with Amazon AWS free version for 1 year. How much Accounts can AWS handle without issues ?
    I think i´ll start with 50 Accounts and add more and more each month.

    3) Proxys
    Okay lets say i bought 50 Accounts that were created with an russian ip and a mail.ru mail.
    Isn´t it suspicious to handle these accounts with a proxy that has a french IP for example ?

    Thank you :)
     
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    1. Valar accounts have a software to auto verify phone, but I have also heard that many people are getting followblocks on bulletproof accounts

    2. People are happy with amazon aws, but its CPU has a limit so watch out for that, I use a windows VPS from BHW if you want to know PM me.

    3. Instagram allows to have many account managers, lets say I have a brand with a friend in Russia and I am from france, nothing should go wrong if we both manage the account, the thing is they have been unused for a long time so idk.
     
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  3. Tekevic

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    Valars accounts are all combined with a proxy and i guess its better to use proxys that aren`t conntected to a lot of accounts from competitors.
    I mean if some accounts got banned by Instagram that are sharing the same Subnet like me and Instagram checks the accounts that are connected to this Subnet they maybe assume that all these accounts in this subnet are from one person because they will recognize a pattern that all accounts share.. No personal accounts, just niche accounts for example...
    So im sure whether to buy accounts from Valar although theres a lot of good feedback

    Cant pm you because i`m still a Noob lol... would you pls send me a PM ?
    Otherwise many thanks for your answer bro
     
  4. IGSuccess

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    To answer your questions: Aged accounts are often better, because IG lets you do more actions sooner. The warm up period is shorter than with brand new accounts. That doesn't mean you shouldn't warm up aged accounts. You should.

    I suggest you don't get Aged PVA accounts. They usually are more expensive and the extra cost is just a waist of money. If you have to phone verify them again, you won't have the same number. Just buy aged none pva accounts and verify them by cheap SIM or online PVA service.

    I am afraid you can't run 50 accounts on a free Amazon VPS. It is not very powerful. You can add a couple accounts, make a bit of money and then buy a cheap VPS if you are starting with a limited budget.

    Regarding the proxies, you should be fine. Just make sure to warm up your accounts even if they are aged. However, if you are using dedicated proxies be prepared for a like block. IG has blacklisted many proxies.

    I haven't bought any accounts from Valar myself, so can't say if they are good or not. I usually buy my accounts on buyaccs. They have an English version of the site.
     
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  5. Tekevic

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    What kind of proxys should i use if you dont recommend dedicated proxies ?
    I thought dedicated proxies are the only proxies that are quite save for this process lol.
    I thought about purchasing from sslprivateproxy but 50 proxys for 125 $ is hard price 4 me, can u recommend some proxy provider you have good expierience with?
    Thank u very much man i really appreciate your help
     
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    Glad to help.
    Dedicated proxies are still fine. I will try to explain how the situation is right now. Some months ago Instagram started to flag proxies from dedicated proxy providers. As you probably know the ip of a proxy is on a subnet with many other ips/proxies. If there are a lot of people (different ips) spamming on the same subnet, IG will blacklist the entire subnet. The result can e.g. be like blocks on your account even if you don't spam yourself.

    Proxy providers often create new subnets. If you are lucky you are among the first on that brand new subnet and you might not get any blocks. But after a while more people will have an ip/proxy on that same subnet. If there are a lot of spammers, the (your) subnet becomes toxic and IG will blacklist it again.

    That is why there are no dedicated proxy providers anymore that have proxies that always work. You have to try some proxies from a lot of different providers and hope you get some ips on a good subnet. It requires a lot more testing then some months ago.

    The alternative are residential proxies. The ip you have at home is residential. IG really likes residential ips, so you are less likely to get blocks. Because of some trick a couple of sellers are able to create residential proxies. But is is hard to create these, so they are very expensive and there is a very limited supply. So the alternative is to test dedicated proxies and keep you follow/like settings moderate.
     
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    First you need to get experience. So I recommend don't buy anything except bot.(if your purpose is profit)
    Learn how to register accounts and run 5-10 accounts without proxies.(home IP).
    If you can't get positive results with 5-10 accounts - you will not earn with 50-100.
     
  8. Tekevic

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    Okay, how i see there are three potential solutions for this problem:
    1) Try to find a dedicated proxy provider that isn`t that popular but still provides good quality proxies - i guess i should search some proxy provider in germany( i'm from germany ^.^ ) because it's more likely that they aren`t that often used for Instagram as the ones that are promoted on BHW and other american forums - good solution for the beginning but nothing for longterm except there are no problems with it.

    2) Try to find some providers that provide residential ips - but the problem is still existing that there could be other people in your subnet that are spamming so that Instagram could blacklist this subnet - still better solution as dedicated proxies

    3) Create your own proxies - there are no people who can spam (except yourself lol) so that Instagram wont blacklist your subnet. - Best solution for longterm

    I guess i should start with Solution 1 or 2 ( depends on the offers i find ) and after some months slowly move to solution 3. What do you think about this way of handling these problems?
     
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    Hi Tekevic,

    Yes, finding a proxy provider that is not that popular is a good strategy. However, everyone is trying to find those.. and we are all using the same search methods :) So it is quite hard to locate a provider that is not popular yet.

    You are right a residential proxy will be less likely to get blocks, but it is not bulletproof. If you are lucky enough (and have the money) to get some, keep the actions as human-like as possible. Don't overdo follow/like. Because residential proxies are so expensive, it is only logical to buy them if you have found a profitable niche or when you are managing accounts for clients. In both cases you earn (a lot) more per month than the cost of the residential proxy.

    For new users residential proxies are too expensive ($5 or a bit more/less per month).

    Creating your own proxies is also an option. But again, Instagram has become smarter. In my network I have quite a bit of people who created their own proxies, but they still get blocks. A reason for the blocks can be that the ips on your subnet are mainly active on Instagram. IG finds that suspicious (bot behavior) and will still blacklist the subnet.
     
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    hmmm.. okay, going to search some proxy providers in germany... maybe that`ll be a good solution for the beginning.
    Thank u for your time & help.
     
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