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New Google Update - Keyword Density - Contribute

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by berkay1907, May 19, 2014.

  1. berkay1907

    berkay1907 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hello Everyone,

    I guess everybody here show some serp movements last few days and its going on still. I have some websites i track and i feel like it may be something about onpage seo as well as of page. I checked the sites keyword density so here are the results so far.

    Keyword density : 0-2 - Lost about 5-10 spots
    Keyword density : 2-5 - Gain about 5-10 spots
    Keyword density : 5-10 - Almost stayed the same
    Keyword density : 10-20 - Lost about 10-... spots

    There is a free tool to check your keyword density it would be good if you can contribute. Also if your sites got hit big let everybody know what you have done please.

    http://tools.seobook.com/general/keyword-density/
     
  2. tony_d

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    All my sites have gained in the last 48hrs or so - however, the keyword density is all over the place. So I'm not sure that's a function of it, HOWEVER, it could be that other factors that are weighted heavier than density are driving my boosted rankings.
     
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  3. berkay1907

    berkay1907 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Do you think its more about links?
     
  4. tony_d

    tony_d Elite Member

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    Anyone who's not talking shit will tell you they don't know.

    That said - I DO know that I've added my own quality PBN-type links to my money sites progressively over the last few months, so that could be an important factor.
     
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    I assume you are referring to percentages? If so, I'm seeing similar stuff.
     
  6. berkay1907

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    Hmm ok great info thanks. Also your sites were sitting there and they jumped 2 days ago after update?
     
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    Tony are you still using SAPE too?
     
  8. berkay1907

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    Yeah yeah percenteges. I used to keep main keyword under 2% and i have seen some decrease on them. On the other hand 2-5 percent sites jumped a few spots.
     
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    It is weird because I randomly decided to tweak one site's on-page keyword density using Yoast's plugin, and the rankings shot up the next day. I did this on a few others, and didn't notice the same effect.


    Weird update.
     
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  10. imlol

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    I think the anchor text % is a bigger factor.
     
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  11. berkay1907

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    Yeah i didn't get the yoast plugin too. It just over optimizes the page too for even 2 percent. And update is weird for sure.
     
  12. berkay1907

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    Ok i will check it too on ahrefs and update it here tomorrow.
     
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    Stop worrying about keyword density, jesus christ.
    Do you think the top sites in the world create articles than say, "Oh fuck, I think I used the keyword one too many times, I better take it out!"
    Just write your article to accomplish what it needs to accomplish and that's it.
    If you're worrying about keyword density, you're doing things wrong.
     
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    mine was all under 6% but still some keywords lost on page 1 and wen't on page 6++.. these websites are seo-maintained for a month now..

    it could be one factor of course no one knows. In my opinion it would be always "how you would build links" "where you build links" and "what kind of links you build" ...

    I just really hope google will also penalized top sites on my niche they have more spammy link profile than I am and THEY ARE STILL ON PAGE FCKING 1 up to now!!!!!!
     
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  15. berkay1907

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    As tony said i saw some sites with pbn links rank good. But i also see some spam sites ranking too. I am guessing google just fucking up peoples minds with these updates. You can't ever say this is the reason.
     
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    I don't disagree with your overall philosophy, but there a lot of factors in G's algorithm, and discussing doesn't mean "worrying". Google's not smart enough yet to discern quality of content, so I would reckon that keyword density is something to consider among many other things.
     
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    Yes, but decreasingly so. The end-game in the coming months is to replace all power with my PBN, and use no SAPE anymore. The link sources via SAPE just lose their juice too quickly - presumably G manually 'nofollows' everything in their algo that flows out from those sites.
     
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  18. Mayer

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    +1 Totally agree.
    based on my sites rankings :It seems to me that for each google update more sites with high anchor text % are penalized .. if it's not in "todays" update it will be in the next one ... like a net where the holes are getting smaller ... your over optimised anchor text site can pass through the holes of the 1st net but when it comes the next one it gets caught = penalized.
    Anchor text ratios are a pretty easy way for google to identify a site trying to manipulate rankings . Instead of trying to wipe out every site and creating a caos on the serps, it seems that google is tuning the algo in a step by step way ... in my opinion.
     
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    Keyword density : 0-2 - #1
    Keyword density : 2-5 - #1
    Keyword density : 5-10 - #3
    Keyword density : 10-20 - #9

    PA: 28
    DA: 21
     
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  20. berkay1907

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    Ok than you think its anchor diversity too? Did you use lsi,generic,brand anchors too? And how much was your keyword anchor density? Thanks.