I now have seen some grafts on how this works since I posted this. I have always done one way links and trading links successfully but there is only a small percentage which actually visit the site for use, purchase or whatever. If you use the web 2.0 system, it appears your link is then further away from the website meaning alot less people than what I was experiencing would visit the target or money web-site or maybe I still don't understand it very good. Do you know of a good system to get or is a person better off to create their own system? Thank you for your response. Just a bit lost on this.