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Need some click bank advice

Discussion in 'Clickbank' started by YoungGrasshopper, Nov 10, 2011.

  1. YoungGrasshopper

    YoungGrasshopper Newbie

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    I know I know that you guys get alot of threads like this. Its just I looked around for a few hours and now my eyes are getting tired so I will just ask.

    When I sign up with click bank it says I dont need a website to promote the product. I read that its good to do reviews of the products that they are selling.

    Question, where do I promote it then or where do I post a review about it? Some people mention ezine or articlebase. Never used it as im new. That said would I just get the hop url, write a good review and post it on one of the article sites ?

    ugh, This is all so confusing to me, but it seems like click bank is the best way to get my feet wet in order to learn about the online money making biz. If anyone could shine some light on me that be nice. I really want to get this going.
     
  2. popcrdom29

    popcrdom29 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    You can use several sites such as squidoo, hubpages, Facebook, twitter and other social websites.There are two books being shared here that I recommend you search for and download: squidoo cash storm and squidoo niche blaster.

    Give those a try and I'm sure you will start making money soon.
     
  3. YoungGrasshopper

    YoungGrasshopper Newbie

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    thanks, will check them out. Also for keyword rich articles, say my keyword is starcraft 2 gaming.

    When I write the article is that the only keyword I use or do I use other keywords as well that relate to this one ?

    ex. bla bla bla starcraft 2 gaming bla balbalb balkdflablablablablalbalblabablba
    starcraft 2 gaming.

    or

    balbaba starcraft 2 gaming balbalbalbalblablblalblbabl starcraft 2 gaming strategies ablablablabll starcraft 2 tutorials

    is that how I would write it ? But first I would research all the keywords making sure its easier to rank. Find some with good amount of searches and low competition.

    Am I understanding this correctly ?
     
  4. GreyWolf

    GreyWolf Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    First... Yes you can promote clickbank products without your own website, that's the foundation for Bum Marketing. With Bum Marketing you'll do article marketing, but rather than using it for backlinks to your website, you'll write good presell or review articles including a link directly to the offer sales page, and submit those to article directories and web 2.0 sites like squidoo, etc. The cool thing about doing that is there will be no financial cost involved for anything.

    The bad news is that you'll still need to get traffic to those pages. Luckily you can optimize your articles for the right keywords to get some them to rank with very little backlinking. You'll still need some backlinks though, but you can accomplish that by choosing one of the article pages as your main page, and then include a link to that article when you post other articles. Article sites won't usually let you link to a competing article, but there are many free blog sites where you can create a blog, post the page, ping it and forget it. Same thing with wiki pages, web 2.0 pages, etc.

    That's where you're question comes into play. Picking the right keywords that you can rank easily. When you say "balbaba starcraft 2 gaming balbalbalbalblablblalblbabl" if what you mean is using related keywords like "sci-fi, starcraft ii, strategy, multiplayer, entertainment, starcraft 2" then no, that type of keyword use hasn't worked for years.

    If you mean using longtail keywords to target microniches, then yes. That's exactly what you need to do. Especially if you're not going to use your own website. Don't think of keywords as words, what you'll actually be using are phrases. If you don't have a keyword research tool, then just use the Google Adwords Keyword Tool for now. So you'll want keywords like "how to play starcraft 2", "best strategy guides for starcraft 2", "how to win at starcraft 2", etc. (Those are just example ideas, you'll need to do the research to find some good ones.)

    Just try think of things someone might actually type into the google search bar, and check to see what the search volume is for those terms. Try to find some longtail keywords that get between around maybe 1500-3000 exact searches. Once you have a few good keywords, then go to google search and type them in to see what the top 10 competition is. Once you've decided on the best keywords then include them into the articles you write. Optimally you'll want to target one article for each keyword because if you use the keyword in the title it will probably be used in the url as well. So you'll get urls like agoodarticlesite/best-strategy-guides-for-starcraft-2 which will help a bit for getting the site ranked. Then create other articles or free blogs using "best strategy guides for starcraft 2" as the anchor for backlinks to that first article.

    (It's a lot easier to do all that keyword research with a good keyword research tool.)

    You can also promote clickbank without a website by just promoting it on social networking type sites as well. Just post comments like "I found this really great place to get the best starcraft 2 strategies" or something like that and include the hoplink. This usually isn't as effective, but if you have lots of friends interested in that niche then you might have some luck. Same thing applies regarding forums as well.

    One last thing to consider. A lot of the articles you write and post will be permanent. In other words there will be no way to go back and edit the url if you ever need to. Even on the sites you can (like the free blogs), it's likely that you won't remember them all anyway. The problem with that comes in the case that either the product you're promoting goes away, or you're getting a lot of hops but no conversions.

    You want to have a way to easily change your promotion to another offer if you need to, without losing all the work you did for it. That's easy to do if you have your own website because all your promotion is for traffic to your website, and then they're clicking the hoplink on your page to get to the offer. Even if you don't have a page set up on your website, you can set up redirects so that all the links are made to your redirect page instead of directly to the hoplink.

    You can't use services like bit.ly because they won't let you change the target url after you set it up. If you use bit.ly as a link shortener it's fine, but you still want it to target a redirect page that you can change if you ever want.

    What you can do is search out free hosting sites like freehostia, atspace, or similar to set up a redirect page on. (Just make sure it's one that doesn't use ads, or require you to participate in forum or anything else like that. You want ones that are TOTALLY free with no catch). Set up a free account using one of their free subdomains, make yourself a simple index.html page to look like you're really hosting a site, and then set up a page like best-strategy-guides-for-starcraft-2.html containing just this code between the <head> and </head> tags (use your own hoplink though. lol).
    Code:
    <meta HTTP-EQUIV="REFRESH" content="0; url=http://WWW.YOURHOPLINK.HERE">
    Also, If you're not sure about the keyword researching part then just do a search on bhw for "keyword research" and read up on it a bit. I didn't go into much depth, but you can find out all you need to know by reading a few threads about it.

    So the main way you'll get any of those article pages to rank in the serp and bring in traffic will be the same as for any other website. 1.choose low competition longtail keyword, 2. optimize your article for that keyword, 3. make backlinks using that same keyword as anchor text.

    To get traffic without relying on the search engines, use social networking sites, forums, etc. to promote the hoplink (or your redirect page) directly.

    Anyway that's just a few ideas I thought of that might help you. I just wrote it as I was thinking, so sorry if it's a bit rambling. Hope it helps give you some ideas though. Good Luck.
     
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  5. wolf1880

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    Newbie question:

    What does this code do?

    Code:
    <meta HTTP-EQUIV="REFRESH" content="0; url=http://WWW.YOURHOPLINK.HERE">
     
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    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]If you need to redirect your visitors to a new page, this is the HTML redirect code

    [/FONT]Code:
    <meta HTTP-EQUIV="REFRESH" content="0; url=http://WWW.YOURHOPLINK.HERE">
     
  7. GreyWolf

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    As blackhatplanet said, it just redirects visitors following a link to that page on to the target url (in this case your hoplink).

    If you just make backlinks directly to a hoplink then if you ever want or need to change your promotion to a new offer you would either have to go change every backlink you ever made to the old offer or just start over.

    If you create a page like yourdomain.com/reallygreatoffer.html or yourdomain.com/reallygreatoffer/index.html and include that code in the file then instead of making backlinks to reallygreatoffer.hoplink.com you can make the backlinks to yourdomain.com/reallygreatoffer.

    Then if you ever decide to change over to some other related offer all you have to do is change the hoplink in that redirect page and all your existing backlinks will still be good for the new offer.

    You can use a url shortener to do it as well, just not bit.ly. You'll have to search for one that will let you change the url if you ever need to. I know there are some, but I don't know which ones because I don't use them. The way I described is simpler for me.
     
  8. YoungGrasshopper

    YoungGrasshopper Newbie

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    Wow, great advice greywolf it sure helped me. I just gotta do more research as Im not totally sure what backlinks and anchor text is.

    You mentioned to use one article for each keyword. Im still not clear on that. Using your example say im writing a 500 word review article using the keyword best strategy guides for starcraft. Is that the only keyword that should show up like 5 times in the 500 word article ? Or should the other keywords such as How to win at starcraft 2 come up in the article as well ? Sorry but im not grasping the gist of this keywording technique.
     
  9. GreyWolf

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    Click on my username at the top of this post, choose 'view public profile', click on 'Statistics', and click on 'Find all threads started by GreyWolf'. Browse through those threads for 'Basic SEO practices for newbies' and 'SEO - Understanding the Simulation'. Reading those posts should help you get a basic understanding of SEO (Backlinks are typically used as a factor for SEO).

    Since you're interested in ways to promote an offer without using a website, you can also look through some of my other threads and posts. Offhand I can think of one I wrote about the WOM method. I've made quite a few posts over time about how to do other types of direct promotions as well. Most of what I write is pretty basic stuff, so you'll want to get the general ideas and then search for some more specific methods to actually apply them if you can't figure it out yourself.

    Now to answer your other questions.

    First to help understand the idea of keywords, remember they aren't necessarily just individual words. Keywords are what people type into google when they search for something. Typically that's a phrase rather than a single word. The purpose of using keywords on your page is so that when someone searches for that phrase, the search engine knows that your page contains it.

    A couple factors the SE uses to determine that is the pages URL and the title. Typically you don't need to use any particular keyword more than a couple two or three times on a page, basically no more than around 2%-4% for any particular keyword. Yes, you should use many different keyword phrases in your articles, but it will only have one url and one title. So you need to decide on a main one that will be your primary target for that particular page. 5 times in a 500 word article is only a 1% density so it should be fine, you could probably even use it a couple more times without a problem. It kind of depends on the article because for what you're wanting to do human readability is an important factor as well.

    That 2%-4% keyword density is actually one place that you will need to consider the individual words in your phrases as well. If you have 4 or 5 different phrases that all contain the same main terms, then if you get just a 1% or 2% density for each of your phrases, then it could end up at 10% or more for some of the main terms, which could be seen as keyword stuffing. If that's the case then you might need to make some adjustments to the secondary keywords. (That's another reason it's good to target each article for a main keyword.)

    A backlink is just a href link back to the page. The anchor is the part of the href that gets displayed.
    ie. <a href="YOUR.PAGE.URL">ANCHOR TEXT</a>, The ANCHOR TEXT part is what will be displayed.
    As search engines spiders follow the links they find on websites they crawl, and they make note of the anchor used because they expect that to be a relevant term to index the target page. They use all these backlinks they find to the same page using the same anchor text as factors in determining how relevant that keyword is to the site being indexed.

    The reason all this SEO stuff is so important is without it you're page isn't likely to turn up when people search for any keywords. If your page doesn't turn up in the search engines, then you won't get any traffic that you don't directly go out to find. That would mean doing things like posting to your friends on facebook, twitter, etc. or posting on popular forums, commenting on popular blogs, CL posting, etc. The cool thing though is that when you're doing all that, your actually creating backlinks which can also help get you indexed by the search engines (as long as you use consistent anchors).

    Just plan each article you write as targeted for a main keyword phrase that you'll use as the title. Hopefully it will also be used in the url for that page as well. Then when you're making backlinks that keyword will also be the main anchor text you'll use. Since you can also use other phrases in the body of your article, you can also do additional backlinks using those secondary keywords as anchors too. The main keyword will be the easiest to rank for, but you'll get ranked in the index for the others as well. Given enough time and backlinks you can have a page on the first page in the serps for many different keywords.

    Anyway, read those first two articles I mentioned and it might help you to understand better. Hope that helps.


    :pirate:
    I really need to write my own book on all this. lol.
     
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  10. YoungGrasshopper

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    wow another great post. I will definitely take a look at your other thread. Thankks again and I finally understand what I wanted to know about the use of keywords.

    haha you should write a book, lol an e-book then I can learn to promote it hehe.
     
  11. GreyWolf

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    Glad it helped.

    Sure, when I finally do get around to writing an ebook, I'll let you know. :cool:
     
  12. YoungGrasshopper

    YoungGrasshopper Newbie

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    Cool Cool cant wait :)
     
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