NEED Affiliates - Peter Williams PS3 Manual!

Erik what have you decided?

Are you interested or should try and talk to some other BHW member for his product.
 
How about this:

I use a searched for keyphrase page for all affiliates that request it.

I can simply change the name of the index page to something like:
ps3 lights fix

The url would look like this:
Code:
http://www.Ps3Manual.com/ps3-lights-fix

I simply rename my index page and upload it and the affiliate might rank for the internal page's keyphrase on my domain.
What I'll do is simple change the orderlink by hardcoding it with the affiliates links. This won't have any cookies but it would mean 100% guaranteed comission for all sales generated through that page.

Can this harm the main domain, get it sandboxed do to too many duplicate pages? :)
Actually that's the type of set up that might possibly get a dup content penalty since all those pages would be on the same domain. You could possibly take care of that with a canonical tag or maybe setting a robots meta tag for noindex, but I'm not really sure.

But more importantly, the possible dup content penalty isn't the main problem with doing it that way. Contrary to what you're thinking, that way doesn't mean "100% guaranteed comission" for all sales generated through that page. Hardcoding the affiliate link into the orderlink doesn't actually guarantee they'll *always* get credit.

I've explained this topic more thoroughly in some older threads, but I'll give just a quick explanation here.
If you try to pass an affiliate id directly to a CB order form it will credit that sale to the affiliate,
as long as there isn't already a previous cookie set for that product.​
This is how it actually works when you pass an aff id to the order form instead of using a hoplink to set the cookie...
If you send a visitor with that link passing the aff id along *and* it's the first time the visitor ever went to your page then they'll be counted for the affiliate.

If the visitor had previously found your site through another affiliate, but for some reason wasn't enticed to purchase your product. Then later on is doing another search and comes across the other affiliate. This affiliate has a much better review site and then when the visitor reaches your page he's pretty much already sold and he then clicks the order form on your sales page. The way it's supposed to work is that the second affiliates hop will overwrite the cookie and they'll get credit for the sale. It's fair to do it that way because the first affiliate didn't result in a sale and it took the salesmanship of the second affiliates promotion to make the sale.

But if your second affiliate send his visitors directly to your sales page you have set up for his aff id, when the visitor clicks the link for the sales page CB will credit that to the first affiliate. The reason for that is the last cookie set by the hop will take priority over the aff id variable you pass in the url for the link. The second affiliate is the one that actually resulted in the sale made when he sent the visitor to the salespage you set up for him, but instead the first affiliate that didn't amke the sale will be the one getting the commission.

Granted, that scenario of a previous cookie already set isn't going to happen that often for any particular affiliate, but in the rare case when it does happen, he'll lose his commission. (Run that information by your affiliates and see how many decide they'd want to risk losing that occassional credit for the sale. :rolleyes:)​

Sometime an experienced affiliate might actually do this themselves if they think they can make a better converting sales page. When they do it themselves though, they've chosen to take the risk because they feel the additional sales from their better salespage might offset any lost sales because of the cookie issue. But it isn't something you would want to set up in the manner you're talking about. In that situation there isn't a "better sales page" to offset any lost commissions.

So, if you want to set up a redirect for your affiliates, it's still better to just redirect to the affiliates hoplink. It still works the same for you. When you make the redirect to aff.vend.hop.clickbank.net, the visitor will hop through CB, get the cookie set and then land on your salespage.
affiliates advert --> Ps3Manual.com/ps3-lights-fix --> aff.vend.hop.clickbank.net --> Ps3Manual.com
For the affiliate it's better that way because he'll get credit for all the sales in which he was the last affiliate to send you that visitor.


I actually think you have a good idea about offering to set up the redirects for the affiliates on your own host.
Just make the redirect to the affiliates hoplinks so everything works right everytime. :cool:


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Erik what have you decided?

Are you interested or should try and talk to some other BHW member for his product.
Well, I imagine he's interested or he wouldn't have offered creating a solution for you. Most vendors wouldn't even offer doing that. Instead they'll either not know how to deal with it at all, or they'll offer some other suggestions you can do yourself. It's only been a day since he even made the offer so it's not really a big deal. It's actually pretty cool of him to do something himself to solve your problem anyway. It's not anything hard to do, but it is more complicated for him than it is for you just to set up your own system.

I don't see why you would need to go find a different product. :rolleyes:
It's not like he's dragging his feet or anything, he just needs to work out a consistent way of setting it up to work best for any affiliates that might want to do that. If you really can't wait for him to set it up for you then just set something up yourself instead.

Here's some alternate solutions...
  1. Search for and use a url shortening service (bit.ly or similar site). Use that shortened url for your campaigns.
    Your Cost: Free
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  2. Search for and find a free hosting service. Sign up, choose the subdomain option. Pick a name for your subdomain, and then set a redirect page on that subdomain to your hoplink. Use that subdomain as the url for your campaigns.
    Your Cost: Free
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  3. Purchase a domain. On the domain control panel keep it set to the default nameservers, find the option for redirecting the domain and set it to redirect to your hoplink. Use that domain as the url for your campaigns.
    Your Cost: price of domain
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  4. Purchase a domain. Sign up for a free hosting account. Set up your domain on that host and change your nameservers at the registrar. Then set a redirect page on that domain to your hoplink. Use that domain as the url for your campaigns.
    Your Cost: price of domain
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  5. Purchase a domain. Sign up for a shared hosting account. Set up your domain on that host and change your nameservers at the registrar. Then set a redirect page on that domain to your hoplink. Use that domain as the url for your campaigns.
    Your Cost: price of domain and price for hosting
For options 3, 4 and 5 if you're going to use a single domain name just for the single product then you can select a good keyword name. If you decide to use a single domain to promote multiple products then pick a generic name for the domain, and use keywords for the subdomains.

The most dependable options are 1, 3 and 5 because they're more likely to have a consistently high uptime rate. The most versatile are options 1, 2, 4, and 5 because you can actually use them for promoting multiple products.

If you're problem with adwords is that you need to have the url you use be the same one the visitor lands on, then you'll need to use option 2, 4, or 5 and set up a pre-sell landing page. (If option 3 comes with a free website then that would work for a landing page as well.) So for that situation the cheapest option is 2, and the best option is 5.
Hope that helps, :cool2:



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Thanks alot for all your advice GreyWolf!

I've listened to what GreyWolf has to say about hardcoding a link, that it's actually better to use the clickbank hoplink as to activate cookies.

I've gone ahead installed wordpress and then a plugin "pretty link" and I am now able to create redirects to any affiliate that wishes so.

If you are an affiliate and you are interested in having a link such as:
Code:
http://ps3manual.com/ps3-lights-fix (Working link)

Simply let me know what keyword phrase you want to use after the domain and your clickbank ID so I can set it up for you.
 
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Erik what have you decided?

Are you interested or should try and talk to some other BHW member for his product.

You got a PM :)

I waited for a while to get some replies and GreyWolf had some great advice so now we have a good system in place.

I was thinking maybe hardcoding a page would be better for affiliates. But as GreyWolf mentioned in his post it doesn't override cookies by other affiliates.

So now a good system is in place and all affiliates can get their keyphrase on the domain.
 
If you are an affiliate and you want your link to look like this:
Code:
http://ps3manual.com/ps3-lights-fix

I can send you stats on how many clicks your link got if you are making sales.

I need to do this manually so I can only send these stats to affiliates that are making sales, as sending a screencapture to hundreds of affiliates would take too much time.
 
Anyway, I want to give help to BHW members.
Your product is added into one of my sites.
I have sent a PM about the details.
 
i am quite a newbie, but could i also try to promote this?
Do i have to have a clickbank account therefor?

You simply need a clickbank ID to promote this product.
 
Header, logo and footer and some other small design changes have been made to the site now:
Code:
http://www.Ps3Manual.com

Like the changes?
 
Your site design and sales page looks good but i see some problems:

1) You have two 'download now' buttons that do nothing when i click on them.

2) Using a gmail address for your contact us seems abit unprofessional looking. i would have thought something like [email protected] would be better.

3) I really dont like the testimonial videos right at the top. First provide info about the product and what it does and add the testimonials at the bottom even though im not that keen on those videos altogether, especially the female looks very fake but maybe the average surfer will not notice.

Also what is going on with the DMCA ps3lightsfix filed against you? i already started promoting this so just wondering and hopefully the actual product delivers? All these little attention to details stuff has me a little skeptical about the actual product which hopefully is a detailed guide and not just soemthing thrown together?
 
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Answers below:

Your site design and sales page looks good but i see some problems:

1) You have two 'download now' buttons that do nothing when i click on them.
ANSWER:
Ok thanks for that been so busy with the ps3 dude that I didn't have much time on the site.
It is FIXED now!


2) Using a gmail address for your contact us seems abit unprofessional looking. i would have thought something like [email protected] would be better.
ANSWER:
I'll put up a contact form such as ps3manual.com/contact


3) I really dont like the testimonial videos right at the top. First provide info about the product and what it does and add the testimonials at the bottom even though im not that keen on those videos altogether, especially the female looks very fake but maybe the average surfer will not notice.
ANSWER:
I believe a realistic video testimonial just below the main headlines will make the site standout more, might just use the guy as others have mentioned that the female looks fake.


Also what is going on with the DMCA ps3lightsfix filed against you? i already started promoting this so just wondering and hopefully the actual product delivers? All these little attention to details stuff has me a little skeptical about the actual product which hopefully is a detailed guide and not just soemthing thrown together?
ANSWER:
I replied to clickbank with proof that I am the copyright owner.
I now have a registered OFFICIAL copyright for my headers and logo's at the US copyright office.
It is now the other way around and according to the US copyright office I have the right to file for a REAL DMCA now if I would wish to do so.
I'll wait and see what happens, I'll do that if ps3lightsfix doesn't get off my back I've allready sent DMCA to google and yahoo with proof of copyright regarding ps3lightsfix's usage of the logo.

He had told clickbank that he had contacted me but that I didn't reply, that's a lie as I've replied several times and sent him several PM's on DP.
I think he just wants me out of the way.

Anyhow no worries there, it is him who should be worried now.

I see my product section as a work in progress, several bonus videos and guides are in the works now.
I'll make sure I over deliver and offer more value to my customers than my competitors do combined!

Let me know if you need anything, I can create a keyphrase redirect for you too on ps3manual domain as I have done to other affiliates in this thread if you would like to have that as well.
 
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Sorry to hear that...

You got more coupons?

If you want to give it a new try I can host the sales page as is but call it something different and hardcode the order link.
Only downside is that you won't get comission through cookies so you'll get credit for most of the buyers that buy at first visit. Something like that, it works as I did this with a friend once.

As for the search engines I can just do a noindex htaccess file so they don't index that particular page.


Google banned my adword account. They just wrote this.

Your Google AdWords account has been permanently suspended for repeated violation of AdWords or Landing Page and Site policies in this or a related account.

This is the link https://adwords.google.com/support/aw/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=164786
 
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Sorry to hear that...

You got more coupons?

If you want to give it a new try I can host the sales page as is but call it something different and hardcode the order link.
Only downside is that you won't get comission through cookies so you'll get credit for most of the buyers that buy at first visit. Something like that, it works as I did this with a friend once.

As for the search engines I can just do a noindex htaccess file so they don't index that particular page.

Hey, I have purchased a domain PS3repair.us
Since now I have purchased it I want some suggestions on creating a good landing page..
So now I'm thinking of promoting the product for a long time..

Thanx,
UDit
 
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