Need advice

tukoga · Oct 20, 2016

Hi folks!

For a long time I watch for one forum. There are many people who are engaged in business at the edge of the law, and some beyond it. Frankly, I could not resist the temptation and bought a few things that they got not quite legally. Now I would like to make some money. There is a guy who offers to receive transfers. I can get 30% of the amount of each transfer.

I'm not really stupid (i hope) and I understand that it can cause unpleasant consequences. But there always can be found an excuses. For example thing with the electronics. If someone wanted to find out I was involved in illegal actions or not I could say that I know nothing about how the seller got it, I just bought it on auction.

What will you advice?
Can I come up with something like that in case with transfers?

By the way there were no problems with electronics. All come from private person as if I actually bought all stuff on ebay.

*I don't encourage anyone to engage in illegal things. I just want to know what people say about this and want to get some advice if someone doing something like that before.

Darkhunter · Oct 20, 2016

I think such things doing not with own ID's or looking drops 4 that.
What forum? Send link in PM plz

tukoga · Oct 21, 2016

Darkhunter said:
I think such things doing not with own ID's or looking drops 4 that.
What forum? Send link in PM plz

can't find how to send you PM
Forum called card-room and stored on domain cc
found it through the Forums catalog link-base

burns87 · Oct 21, 2016

My friend from Germany doing something like that.

He started with fact that he receives transfer by himself. Then he found people who were receiving. Now he earns a percentage of these people.
It is understood that this activity is illegal, but even if police will be interested you can always say that you received this money as a reward for freelance.

Sombrero · Oct 21, 2016

My advice is stay away from that girl or bad friends

blogzandstuff · Oct 21, 2016

you can't mention other forums on here, you'll get banned

dami3n · Oct 21, 2016

You mean your a member of a carding forum? No it's illegal and it can land you balls deep in dog muck. If your buying in large volumes and reselling expect a visit at some point. To be honest selling goods that are "hot" from a warehouse would be safer than selling carded goods. Because at least the insurance company would do a full payout for the stolen goods where as "carding" your looking at a lot of claims. They don't just clone 1 persons card.

If your happy to re sell carded goods then why not just go full throttle and card yourself. You will receive the same punishment.

tukoga · Oct 21, 2016

blogzandstuff said:
you can't mention other forums on here, you'll get banned

Oh I didn't know that. i'll remove. guy Just asked and I can't send him a PM

tukoga · Oct 21, 2016

dami3n said:
You mean your a member of a carding forum? No it's illegal and it can land you balls deep in dog muck. If your buying in large volumes and reselling expect a visit at some point. To be honest selling goods that are "hot" from a warehouse would be safer than selling carded goods. Because at least the insurance company would do a full payout for the stolen goods where as "carding" your looking at a lot of claims. They don't just clone 1 persons card.
If your happy to re sell carded goods then why not just go full throttle and card yourself. You will receive the same punishment.

I've seen a lot of threads here where dudes offer to get some cash is not a very honest way. Ultimately that forum is not much worse than these proposals.

Pro1 · Oct 21, 2016

Well there is this saying that in business there is no ethics but i disagree i must say that you must go your own ways and it all depends on what kind of a person you are, me myself am a former inmate and have been to prison for crimes that i have done, if you are not willing to meet the consequences of doing bad things then i would suggest to refrain from it because bad things come eventually and knock on your door
karma...
anyways doing bad shit is bad, but you can do bad shit that doesnt hurt other people and i consider that to be okay.
but also depends if you are a sociopath or not how it will affect you as a person.
not everyone is made the same way =) personally i dont like doing TOO blackhat stuff these days
but the gray area suits me well.

tukoga · Oct 22, 2016

Thanks to everyone.
I heard enough opinions. Most were negative and I understand why. It would be too weird to talk about it well. Those who don't believe that this is something overly bad just kept silent to wouldn't seem worse than they really are.

Charly The Rabbit · Oct 22, 2016

One time I red a quote which says something like this: "When you live a simple life, you have more chance to be happy". This doesn't mean to be poor, this mean that if you don't complicate your life your chances of been happy increase. If you do somethin ilegal, you are complicating your life, because you will be worried of any police. Does the money worth your peace?

dami3n · Oct 22, 2016

tukoga said:
I've seen a lot of threads here where dudes offer to get some cash is not a very honest way. Ultimately that forum is not much worse than these proposals.

"Missleading descriptions" and card fraud are entirely different things. If i "scam" Someone to fill in an offer and earn a few bucks i can sleep at night but if i steal 100's of dollars from average jo that's struggling i wouldn't be so pleased.

Pro1 · Oct 22, 2016

Charly The Rabbit said:
One time I red a quote which says something like this: "When you live a simple life, you have more chance to be happy". This doesn't mean to be poor, this mean that if you don't complicate your life your chances of been happy increase. If you do somethin ilegal, you are complicating your life, because you will be worried of any police. Does the money worth your peace?

dami3n said:
"Missleading descriptions" and card fraud are entirely different things. If i "scam" Someone to fill in an offer and earn a few bucks i can sleep at night but if i steal 100's of dollars from average jo that's struggling i wouldn't be so pleased.

unless maybe his bank insures him right ?

burns87 · Oct 22, 2016

dami3n said:
"Missleading descriptions" and card fraud are entirely different things. If i "scam" Someone to fill in an offer and earn a few bucks i can sleep at night but if i steal 100's of dollars from average jo that's struggling i wouldn't be so pleased.

Completely disagree with that!
Scamming someone and steal money from his pocket not the same as stealing money from a corporation that has taken over the responsibility to protect other people's money.
In fact the bank must to prevent any encroachment on my money. And he is obliged to compensate the damage to me in case of carding atack because he could not prevent the fraud of his protection system. for which by the way he takes my money!

And I will not feel guilty if someone was able to bypass the protection system.
This means that the bank is being protected not good enough.
These people can be called "bug finders". Each episode of stealing money is error Report of the bank security system. And as we know, for the audit someone should pay and damn it shouldn't be me.

dami3n · Oct 22, 2016

Pro1 said:
unless maybe his bank insures him right ?

Of course but this is not always the case.

dami3n · Oct 22, 2016

burns87 said:
Completely disagree with that!
Scamming someone and steal money from his pocket not the same as stealing money from a corporation that has taken over the responsibility to protect other people's money.
In fact the bank must to prevent any encroachment on my money. And he is obliged to compensate the damage to me in case of carding atack because he could not prevent the fraud of his protection system. for which by the way he takes my money!

And I will not feel guilty if someone was able to bypass the protection system.
This means that the bank is being protected not good enough.
These people can be called "bug finders". Each episode of stealing money is error Report of the bank security system. And as we know, for the audit someone should pay and damn it shouldn't be me.

You are aware it effects the consumer at the end of the day right? Plus in some cases "said" person can be waiting a long time to get their money back. That is if the bank feels you were not to blame for the issue.

burns87 · Oct 22, 2016

dami3n said:
You are aware it effects the consumer at the end of the day right? Plus in some cases "said" person can be waiting a long time to get their money back. That is if the bank feels you were not to blame for the issue.

Return the money is better than lost anyway. And if they were able to take away your money should think about changing the bank... Thei doesn't deserve your money for their "services".
And if you are not involved - you are not involved no other way

Darkhunter · Oct 23, 2016

What a mess!
People you hear yourself?
What "simple life" what "pleased"?

We are all participants in the struggle for survival! I don't mean "to live or to die". I speak for the social status. Everyone chooses their top on their own and how they will achieve is their own business.
If you feel free beyond the law - you welcome, but just know there might be payback

tukoga · Oct 23, 2016

Darkhunter said:
What a mess!
People you hear yourself?
What "simple life" what "pleased"?

We are all participants in the struggle for survival! I don't mean "to live or to die". I speak for the social status. Everyone chooses their top on their own and how they will achieve is their own business.
If you feel free beyond the law - you welcome, but just know there might be payback

I think you're overreacting

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