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Need a good VPS/VPN - Paypal Keeps getting Limited

Discussion in 'Ebay' started by vctrfs, Sep 29, 2014.

  1. vctrfs

    vctrfs Junior Member

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    So, I have been working online for awhile and been reading around a lot and I have a couple of eCommerce stores that receives money via paypal. The only thing is that, my paypal keeps getting limited and I rarely get to use any of the money. Does anyone know a good VPS or VPN online that I can use. I don't care if I have to buy one from a site or something, I just want something that is sturdy and will cover me well, while I do my thing online. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
     
  2. toml3030

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    Are you 100% sure you're getting limited because of IP? If there are other factors limiting you, getting a VPN/VPS won't save you.
     
  3. jmt123

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    Try to stay away from VPNs, at least the popular ones, since you'd most likely be sharing an IP with many others who may or may not have abused ebay/paypal already. VPSs are less likely to have that problem, but you still have to be careful and avoid any popular companies.

    But like toml3030 mentioned, it may not even be an IP issue. If you're using HMA or a super popular VPN, then maybe. But it's most likely an issue with the way you use your account. Sending/receiving/withdrawing large amounts of money (especially on new accounts) are the most common reasons Paypal accounts are limited.
     
  4. toml3030

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    Or he gets acccused of selling counterfeit VERO stuff, or not shipping and paypal has to keep getting involved to refund the buyer. That will get your paypal banned pretty quick.
     
  5. vctrfs

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    Okay, so after everything I am doing pretty well...for now. Only problem is, that I need a way to bypass the phone verification. Anyone have any ideas? Is there a good iPhone app or something that can help me out with this?
     
  6. toml3030

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    If you're in US you can do it with a pre paid phone. If outside US you may have to buy an acct.
     
  7. Guyabano

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    US, US and more US. Don't you people get tired of having to deal with the worst place for verification due to the largest database available to ebay/pp ?

    And if you do it all right and the account is nice and smooth they want EIN or SSN - sooner or later. So more accounts, more of the same shit and after a while it does get confusing running so many accounts.

    Phone rings - shit, it's ebay calling again - which account was that number for again ?
    Damn fucking cat, if I catch you ripping the sticker off the phone again I'll KILL you!

    Hey, hurry up, phone is still ringing

    Like the US is the only place on earth ebay and pp are doing biz with....
     
  8. toml3030

    toml3030 Elite Member

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    If you want to do business with US eBay, you deal with US eBay rules. No point complaining about it. It's like complaining about getting wet when you go out in the rain.
     
  9. STAUNCH

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    No one is saying that you can ONLY register your account using pp.com/us/ site, right? You can use whatever other country PP you like where there're NO SSN requirements, lol! So simple. Simple thing that people should pay $10k or more to learn it and fully understand it how it works in order to fully utilize it.
     
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  10. Guyabano

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    Wrong. You are only dealing with US ebay rules when you list on the .com site.

    Your post's make you sound like you know a lot about ebay. But I guess not.
     
  11. Guyabano

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    I always crack up when I read about 0/0 limits on ebay accounts, SSN or EIN requirements for PP and the like. Tracphone, VPS, VPN, Proxies, change user accounts, keep track of all that shit, clear your flash's and never call them - it's risky.

    Good thing, tho. Keeps ebay busy chasing all the nerds
     
  12. toml3030

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    I've only been on eBay since 1998 and sell about $400K a year on eBay...but what do I know, right?
     
  13. toml3030

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    If you are US citizen though, that gets the IRS after you, and dealing with IRS is a much worse problem than having to deal with creating stealth accounts. Remember, IRS has the power to drain all your bank accounts, take your business, and auction off your stuff, all without a trial and without having to provide proof.
     
  14. Guyabano

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    And now I shall be.......impressed ?

    How much did you spent to create 400k revenue ? 410k ?
     
  15. toml3030

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    I have 2.35x markup on stuff I sell on eBay for most things, and I have very little overhead so do the math. The point is, you want to make money on eBay/Paypal, you play by eBay/Paypal rules. You may pooh pooh having to deal with all the hassles of running stealth accounts, but a well run stealth account can get $100K in revenue and once set up, and survives the first 90 days costs about $500 year to maintain (VPN + PO Box + Wyoming LLC, phone). Most of the people who are having problems are either just starting or are having trouble because of what they sell. Once you get past the initial hassles and find the right product to sell it's a LOT less problems having to deal with eBay or Paypal.
     
  16. Guyabano

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    You are contradicting yourself. Playing by ebay/pp rules does not include stealth accounts.

    So you are breaking their rules already. Why subject yourself to all that is involved by running .com site registrations ?

    In one of your post - and not only you, mind you - it's stated that instead of submitting SS# you can form one or the other business entity and submit the associated EIN. Great.

    Does anyone even thinks about the consequences of doing that ?

    Those are on a state / federal level. Of course it will eventually trickle down to the county and city level. Every city requires you to have a permit / license to operate the biz within city limits. But...but...but... I'm running a stealth account, no one will know.

    EVERYONE seems to forget that money always leaves a trail. I don't suppose you are meeting a paypal employee at the 7-eleven parking lot to get paid in cash.

    Sure, you can muddle the waters by shuffling funds around and delay detection but eventually your hard earned money will end up in something that is associated with your person.


    Maybe some guys here are not as smart as you are with forming Inc.'s and LLC's in Delaware or Wyoming.

    Point is : Why bother with all that stuff ? Who says that you need a US based ebay or PP account to sell to US buyers ? Who says that you need to list on the .com site to sell to US buyers ?

    And the IRS does not care if paypal sends funds to an account that's based outside their jurisdiction. Neither does PP.

    Or do you also think that all of the Chinese and HK sellers are actually Chinese or Hongkongnese and live there and ship from there ?

    It's called tactical focus. Too much tactical focus. Not seeing the forest because of to many trees.
     
  17. toml3030

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    I'm not saying do everything they tell you. The goal is MONEY, and MONEY by ethical means. I am willing to bend eBay/Paypal rules to make money, but I will do it as ethically as possible. I will not rip off people, I will not sell fake stuff, and I will happily pay all paypal/eBay fees. I'm pretty sure they banned my original seller's account for going nuts on them over the phone over Chinese sellers being allowed to get away with stuff that us in the US does not. I feel no shame in going stealth on eBay after that.

    Yes, I have thought this out a lot.

    FALSE. Did you know that in a Wyoming LLC or Corporation, you are not required to register the name of stockholders or officers with the governement?

    This is not a problem as long as your corporation/LLC is legal and pays taxes. And guess what? It's legal for LLC to own other LLC's! And it's legal to NOT register who owns LLCs! Your name can be buried so deep that someone would have to take a LOT of time and effort and money to find out who the real owner of the LLC/corporation is and where is the money ending up.


    Because if you haven't heard, .com site has the most sales and will require and live US based address. What you don't seem to understand that .com site sells 10x as much stuff as all other sites combined.



    You're dead wrong about the IRS. Paypal doesn't care but US is one of the few countries that want you to report and pay taxes on foreign income for its citizens. Did you know that US has tax treaties with following countries and IRS can access your banking information in those countries?

    A
    Armenia
    Australia

    Austria
    Azerbaijan

    B
    Bangladesh
    Barbados
    Belarus

    Belgium
    Bulgaria
    C
    Canada
    China
    Cyprus
    Czech Republic
    D
    Denmark
    E
    Egypt
    Estonia

    F
    Finland
    France

    G
    Georgia
    Germany
    Greece

    H
    Hungary
    I
    Iceland
    India
    Indonesia
    Ireland
    Israel
    Italy

    J
    Jamaica
    Japan

    K
    Kazakhstan
    Korea
    Kyrgyzstan

    L
    Latvia
    Lithuania
    Luxembourg
    M
    Malta
    Mexico
    Moldova

    Morocco
    N
    Netherlands
    New Zealand
    Norway
    O
    P
    Pakistan
    Philippines
    Poland
    Portugal
    Q
    R
    Romania
    Russia
    S
    Slovak Republic
    Slovenia
    South Africa
    Spain
    Sri Lanka
    Sweden
    Switzerland

    T
    Tajikistan
    Thailand

    Trinidad
    Tunisia
    Turkey
    Turkmenistan

    U
    Ukraine
    Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR)
    United Kingdom
    Uzbekistan


    V
    Venezuela



    I used to do import/export business with China/Korea/Philippines/Vietnam before I got into the ebay stuff, so yes, I am well aware of it.
     
  18. vix__

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    Yeah what everyone else here posted about using popular VPNs/VPS is spot on, basically if you use a popular service they will just give you the same ips that they also gave to 1000 other people, so chances of that ip already being limited on ebay is high. I been using 24vc.com with good results, have multiple accounts up and running for many months now. What they do different is they have a plan specifically for ebay called guaranteed fresh that ensures your the only person that has gotten that ip from them before, so it ensures its an unused ip for ebay.


    they explain it here

    b.24vc.com/guaranteed-fresh-ip-address-explained/
     
  19. STAUNCH

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    I have read their prices - LOL, HAHAHA. I won't ever buy anything over €5/$5 no matter if it's a Dedicated Private VPS or VPS. And here I've found prices for $25/monthly for some EUROPEAN countries, lol.

    About:

    I can agree with this. Already explained on post #9.

    Many people don't understand that people from many different countries register and use the .COM (US-based) site. So they use their own home address from their own country, NOT US. So when they get a Top-rated Plus seller, they receive the 20% off (if they were registered on .CO.UK and sale on .COM, they wouldn't be able to receive the commission). So eB sellers who wants to be *under the radar* can you ANY country around the world with ANY real accessible address (not only US/CA) with ANY real name, where there is NO SSN/SIN/NIN or so requirement. And to sale to Americans on eB.com (or whoever buys off there).

    About the stats that "US .COM is 10x more than all others" - here I can provide a proof that is somehow not true: Link. US's .COM is big because many countries don't have "own eB country site" and because the .com domain is well-known Top-Level-Domain from all people around the world, even r3tards. Also there're not allowed any digital related sales on the .COM version.

    About the treaties - they're easily bypassed using only VCCs (where to withdraw the funds) :). Yeah, you can't withdrawl XXXXX amount of money but still a good choice for small markets, small businesses with not a large volume sales. So VCCs are NOT attached to ANY bank (real or virtual) bank acc.
     
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  20. toml3030

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    What I say mainly applies to US based sellers. It was not my intention to imply that it is good for everyone.

    In my category "made in USA" is a selling point. I have people in Singapore and Hong Kong buying from me because it was made in USA.

    Do NOT mess with the taxman if you're based in USA. I say that as someone who has bank a accounts in 5 countries.