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My Backlink Structure and the Journey to Ultimate Automation

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by amazonian raider, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. amazonian raider

    amazonian raider Junior Member

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    I'm trying to work on a system to automate my backlinking process as much as possible, but it is going to be a ton of work and a major time investment for me in the coming weeks. With that in mind, before I get too far along setting up my bots, I wanted to ask for some input if you guys think I should add/change anything. Obviously to get feedback, I need to share my system with you - feel free to use it on your own sites if you wish. I know this system will work because I have used it, with the exception of the Doc sharing and Podcast sites. I haven't done those before but figured they'd be another way to add just a bit more diversity. That said, if anyone has any input I may want to make some changes to it.

    So this post is basically half guide and half request for help/advice.

    The system works as is, but it takes a ton of time to do the parts that I don't have automated and efficiency/effectiveness is wasted on parts that aren't automated well. So the time I will spend setting up the automation process should pay itself back in time saved by having the whole system automated. Spending that much time though, I want to make sure I am setting up the best system I can.

    Here's my diagram so far, I'll explain it more below:
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    This diagram is focused on ranking an inner page of an authority site, while also sending links to the homepage and another random inner page. But it could easily be slightly modified to work with a micro niche site or anything else. Here is the process as it stands:

    STEPS 1-5: Preparation

    1)Gather the URL for the Homepage, the page you are trying to rank for this keyword, as well as 10+ other random pages on the site. Keep those handy, we are going to be building links to all of these to help build up the overall authority of the site, but obviously the primary focus of the links will be the single inner page we want to rank.

    2)Write or purchase an article (preferably 500+ words), do a high quality (manual) spin on it get it as unique as you can but make sure it is still readable. Shoot for at least 70-75% unique but make sure the keyword is protected from the spinning. This is worth spending some time on because it is the backbone of this link structure. Also write and spin multiple titles for the article I try to write at least 5 and spin them.

    3)Create a .PDF, .PPT, and .Doc version of the article (each one a unique spun version). Put your raw URL link (no keyword) in the footer of each page of the DOC and PDF files and at the bottom of each slide of the PPT. These will go on the docshare sites later. This is actually the part I haven't done, but I think it will add some diversity plus it is something I don't think too many people are actively doing.

    4)Create a couple of short videos, you can use pictures from your niche and slides from your ppt if you want. Either read a portion of your article, or talk a bit about it or whatever. It doesn't have to be long, just make something brief and related.

    5)Either rip the audio from the videos you just created or create new audio files in the same manner - we'll use those for the Podcast sites. This is the other part I haven't personally done yet, but again I think it is worth the extra effort to add a bit of diversity.

    Steps 6-13 Main Linking

    6)Upload those videos to 10-15 different video sites, put the URL of the page you are trying to rank in the description, and save the URLs as well as the Embed code for each video.

    7)Now set up about 30 Web 2.0 properties. I actually like to reuse these for multiple sites/pages/topics within the same niche. Ideally you don't want to always use the same 30 though, so if you do it again on a different keyword in the same niche, it can be a good idea to use 15 of the old ones and set up 15 new ones. Now you've got a pool of 45 accounts in that niche. After a while you will have a bunch of them set up and won't have to make new ones so much you'll just be able to pull a random set out of the accounts for that niche. To make them look more legit, add profile pictures, bios, change layouts, whatever is applicable to a fully fleshed out profile on that particular site - add it. Again, it's worth the time setting it up because these are going to hold a large portion of our link juice.

    Use the a different spun variation of the article on each Web 2.0, and embed a video in most of them (I don't do it in all of them because that may leave too much of a footprint). Put two links in each of these articles. One links to the page we want to rank and the other links to either the homepage or one of the random pages on the site (spin the URLs to get a random one). The anchor text for that second link does not need to be your keyword, but should be something related to help build niche authority for the domain. Use the exact anchor text you want to rank for on the link pointing to the target page - these are a main focus for link juice and we will worry about anchor text diversity later.

    This section will be my first priority while trying to automate it as it can be very time consuming.

    8)Once the 2.0s are up, go ahead an upload the podcasts to 5-10 podcast sites, link them back to the target page

    9)Upload the pdf, ppt, and doc file to 5-10 doc sharing sites again linking back to the main target page

    10)Load up AMR and blast the spun article. The goal is to get about 300-500 live links right off the bat from auto-approve directories. More will come overtime, but try to get a list that will get you that many right away. Make sure you have a well-spun resource box. Put two links in the resource box

    Link 1, should a related anchor text and spin in URLs for all of the Web 2.0s, Doc sharing, podcasts, and videos.

    Link 2, is a bit more complicated, because we want to weight our spins so that one particular option gets chosen more frequently. This one will be linking to the homepage, the 10 random pages, and the target page, but we want to target page to get the most links and the random pages to get the fewest. Here's how to set it up, I'm representing the homepage url as HP, the random pages as R1-10 and the Target page as T:

    {{{R1|R2|R3|R4|R5|R6|R7|R8|R9|R10}|HP}|T}

    Set up that way, the Target page should get about half of the links, the home page should get about a quarter, and the other quarter is split between the 10 random pages. That's not the end of it though, I want to throw in a bit of anchor diversity here. So we'll do half anchor text and half raw URL:

    Code:
    {<a href="{{{R1|R2|R3|R4|R5|R6|R7|R8|R9|R10}|HP}|T}">KEYWORD</a>| {{{R1|R2|R3|R4|R5|R6|R7|R8|R9|R10}|HP}|T}} 
    11) While AMR is running, pull up BMD and bookmark your target page across 50-100 different bookmarking sites. Use some of the Pligg type sites, but mostly stick with the higher quality ones.

    12) When AMR finishes, grab your live links from it, add those to your list of URLs from the 2.0s, podcasts, docsharing, and videos. Bookmark each of these 1-3 times each with BMD, user more of the Pligg/Scuttle/etc sites now. Ideally have a big list of sites to use for this to spread out the links. Don't worry about bookmarking each page on every site, just get 1-3 bookmarks for each URL on your list.

    13)Set up a blast of 100-200 Wikis. Again, I normally stick with 2 links. One link goes to a Web 2.0 with a related keyword, and 1 link has the exact anchor text spinning the URLs from your site just like before (but without the raw url): {{{R1|R2|R3|R4|R5|R6|R7|R8|R9|R10}|HP}|T}

    STEPS 14-17: SB and Xrumer blasts

    14) Do a small blast of 100+ High PR blog comments with SB (with a small but nice auto-approve high pr list). For your KW, use mostly the main anchor text, but some variations that are still closely related. These don't have to be super high PR if you don't have a good AA high PR list. Just do what you can.

    15) Another small blast of 250+ Profiles on high PR forums same basic idea as the SB blast in the previous step.

    16)Finally, take all your articles, wikis, videos, podcasts, docshares, and 2.0s and blast them with Xrumer

    17)Again take articles, wikis, videos, podcasts, docshares, and 2.0s and blast it with scrapebox.


    Other stuff:
    I try not to use the same sites over and over, so gather a list of each category (2.0s, Podcasts, Videos, Docshare) and pull randomly from it each time.
    I don't worry too much about getting things indexed. The Xrumer/SB blasts will be found over time, everything else has links pointing back to it already to get it indexed.
    I realize not all of the links pointing at the site are going to bring a ton of juice, but the goal with those is to add diversity.​

    I'm considering adding more 'social signals' to it with things like pinterest posts, tweets, fb likes, G+, etc... but haven't really done much of that in the past. I'm just guessing it will weigh more heavily in the future and for now it would add more diversity so I may add some of that in over time.

    This process definitely takes time and effort (thus the goal of automation), but you don't have to worry so much about getting wiped off the map the next time Google deindexes a blog network. Once you rank with this, you're there to stay...

    This is BY FAR the longest post I've ever written on a forum, but hopefully you find it helpful. I've honestly never written it out like this so it even helped me see it a bit better even though I've worked on it... it's just different seeing it written out(the diagram at the top is recent too).

    I'd love to get some feedback here. I also plan to use this as a bit of a journal while I'm working on automating this (I know that's a bit different than the $100 a day goals people normally set lol).

    In the meantime, I'm gonna go crash - this took longer to write than I expected and it's been a long day...
     
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  2. Taktical

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    Looks like a solid layout.

    I'd include the following points:

    1) The "Random Page" for link 2 should be an authority page (wikipedia or any site with PR higher than 5).
    2) naked anchor text should certainly be a big part of the link plan, but also include generic anchors such as "click here", "website", "more info" and others.
    3) the easiest way to automate this is to train a cheap outsourcer on your whole system
     
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    Any particular reason you are sending the doc sites to an inner page as opposed to the home page?
     
  4. salerock

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    Looks cool, which software are you going to use for the bots? Good luck!
     
  5. amazonian raider

    amazonian raider Junior Member

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    Thanks! I'd like a bit more info about number 1, btw...

    1)You would have the second link in the articles point to an authority site rather than another page on your own domain? My thinking for why I do this is to build additional authority on the domain as a whole while ranking a specific page. Overtime, as more content is added to the site, it will get easier to rank because each time I rank a page for a keyword I am also intentionally spreading authority throughout the domain as a whole. I understand linking to authority sites as a part of onpage SEO, but haven't done it as a part of my off page SEO. Do you find that makes your backlinks stronger?

    2)Normally instead of adding very many "click here" and the like, I've just done variations of the keyword and other related longtails, those would be included in steps 14-15. I've been considering experimenting with adding more "click here" "more info" etc, and still plan on doing that experiment sometime, but in the meantime it seems to be working for me with just varying the keywords.

    3)I considered that option, but decided that with the time spent training a cheap outsourcer how to do everything the way I want it I could probably use the same amount of time and get a significant amount done setting up bots. Once the bots are done, outsourcing will be even more efficient though, so once I know everything is working the way I want, I will definitely revisit this point :)

    Because in this example I'm trying to rank an inner page and not the homepage. This layout is more slanted toward an authority site (or at least something larger than MNS), but if I was using it on a MNS or just trying to rank the homepage on a larger site then I would focus the main part of the blast on the homepage. Basically take everything that is currently pointed at the Target inner page and point it toward the homepage.

    I'm using ZennoPoster. I bought it a couple weeks ago and in my spare time I've been learning how to use it so that I can get rolling with this project.
     
  6. Taktical

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    In my testing I have found that 2 links from the same page make very little difference in terms of SERP impact, even if they are to two separate pages in your domain. Its fine to do it sometimes as it probably doesn't hurt.

    However, there is a strong belief that including a few outbound links to high PR pages on your own website helps to give you more trust and authority with G. On that note, theres no reason to believe that this same tactic wouldn't work on your web 2.0 links just like it would on your own website.

    I do have a question for you though, what footprints are you using to find podcasting sites? And are you posting podcasts (like you would do on video sites) or are you just commenting?
     
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    Very much detailed ..
    Not understand fully ..
    Have to check it again ..
     
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    Very detailed and well thought out, good work. Looks solid to me, ya I haven't done the podcasting yet. PM me if you want to trade zenno templates, I'm working on some too.
     
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    This is quite similar to cash202's SEO method, you might want to look at that for comparison. I've taken that and added a few things of my own, to get something quite similar to yours (without as many videos or the podcasts).

    One question, do you use xrumer for the high PR forum links or something else?

    Also if you're considering web2.0 you should look into something like ping.fm or helloTXT that can syndicate your content to multiple social sites. You can connect this up to an RSS feed for automation, or do it all manually (sending updates through email works well).
     
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    This is a solid plan. I have seen a similar post here by a member (sorry forgot the name-that is pretty popular thread here) where he states to use 12 Web 2.0 properties and 12 articles to money site. And then 13 web 2.0 properties and articles to tier 1. I kind of followed that strategy that helped me to rank a high competitive buying keyword from #13(have been around 12-16 for 2 months but never on page 1) to #9 within 3 weeks of completing the process. Now its stable at #9 for a month.

    I used that strategy and also mixed it up with doc and PPT sharing site and videos. Created my articles and web 2.0s with 2 links - one to the main page and other to inner page/web 2.0 etc. I also mixed up generic anchor texts for inner pages (go to site, click here etc). Articles were manually spun at sentence and phrase level keeping them of high quality as well as unique. Also I used some random images in the web 2.0 creation with my keywords as title and alt.

    But the idea of using podcast sites in new which I surely want to try out. One thing I did for the videos was to add a link to my page in description for video on youtube. For videos on other sites (6-7) I added the youtube video url in description instead of the page url. I was pretty surprised that my video was picked up by a number of auto-blogging sites and video sharing sites, so free links to my youtube video. That helped to rank the youtube video pretty well without using any fake views, comments etc.

    I didn't used the wiki with this as I have used them once before alone. One such blast doesn't cost much (I don't have BD, SB, Xrummer but fiverr and service section here is a go to place for me for these). Only considerable time spend is with the article writing/rewriting initially.
     
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    does anyone have good footprints for podcasting sites?
     
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    How do you target social bookmarking? Is Zennoposter able to control other programs such as BMD? Anyway, do you make progress?
     
  13. amazonian raider

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    Apologize for the delay in responding - Was busy over the weekend and then I wrote a fairly lengthy response to these posts yesterday morning and when I submitted it didn't go through and I couldn't recover it...

    I'm familiar with linking out from the moneysite to other authority pages to gain trust, but hadn't ever put a whole lot of consideration into doing it in my backlinking pages as well. It does make sense that it would give those pages more trust as well which would hopefully pass on to the moneypage though. I think I may have to do a case study on this once I get things running smoothly... would be very interested to see if the extra link to a separate page is more valuable or if the extra authority given to the backlink is more powerful. Would also be interesting to test if there is a difference in results in each method when applied to a larger authority site vs a mns. My reasoning for linking to additional inner pages is more of a longterm goal of ranking easier for more keywords on more pages of the site rather than ranking quicker for a single keyword on a specific page (though obviously that is the immediate goal of both tactics).

    I'll probably be a bit behind on some of my linkbuilding by the time I get this up and running (partially because I've got a bunch of other stuff going on right now too that's keeping me from focusing on it as I'd like). But there are a handful of things like this that I'd love to do some solid testing on.


    As far as the footprints for podcasting sites go, I honestly haven't developed anything incredibly elaborate. Partially because it isn't a huge part of my link structure and partially because of a focus on other things for the time being, I haven't spent a ton of time on that (though I will be trying to find a better system in the future). For now, I basically just Google'd phrases like "free podcast host", "create a podcast", "list of podcasting sites", etc. Like I said, nothing real extraordinary, just the types of things you'd search if you were actually looking to start a podcast lol. There is some junk to sift through, but this works for now since I don't need 1,000s of these sites (yet?).

    I have seen at least one service offered here that gives links from docsharing and podcasting sites, so I'm guessing they've got a more eloquent footprint since they're doing it in much larger quantities.

    Also, podcast commenting might not be a bad idea either, and something I may look at adding in the future, but for now I'm talking about actually adding podcasts (really just brief audio blurbs about whatever the keyword is).

    Anything you'd like clarified?

    Thanks! I would definitely be interested in talking more. At the very least, I think it will be good to be in touch with people on here that are using Zenno for similar purposes.

    Yep, Xrumer for the forum links. I don't actually own Xrumer though so for now this has been outsourced. Will be looking at changing that in the future.

    And yeah, my strategy is very similar to cash's, with a handful of key differences. In fact, I almost didn't post this because it is similar, but then realized that people can actually learn from the fact that there are two working strategies as well as potentially learning from the differences if they are willing to read through both of them and try some things out for themselves. Anyone that wants to check out Cash's thread http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/296636-my-search-engine-optimization-blueprint-senuke-amr-bmd-xrumer-scrapebox.html

    Plus since I wanted some more direct input about my own strategy, I didn't figure Cash's thread would be the place to ask lol.

    I wasn't a member here yet when Cash posted that thread (didn't actually even know about this site at the time...), but that was around the time I started using a similar strategy (last Spring). So when I was his thread I was intrigued by how similar it was and read through most of it. It was actually buried somewhere in there that I got the idea of using ZennoPoster to automate most of my process. He was considering using it at one point but I believe he decided it would be too time consuming for what he wanted.

    I'm honestly not sure why I haven't used more images in the past, I'll definitely have to implement that in my bots on at least some of the web 2.0s.

    The idea of having the other videos link back to the main (youtube) one is something I've considered and it's another one of those things I may eventually have to do a case study on to find out which one is most effective.
     
  14. amazonian raider

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    Zennoposter cannot control other programs, so I've got two options as far as that goes:

    1) I can have Zennoposter output all of the needed info in a way that will hopefully make things easy to transfer over to BMD and do the bookmarking there.

    2) I could create or purchase templates in Zennoposter that effectively replace BMD and then do all my bookmarking in BMD.

    Part of me is attracted to #2 as it would bring me one step closer to truly having everything in one place, load it with the information it needs to run (articles, urls, images, etc) and it spits out a massive backlink structure. But it would take a long time to create and I already own BMD, so for now I'll probably start with #1

    Other things to consider along those lines are the fact that the SB blasts and Xrumer blasts would be outside of ZP too - though I believe there is a template for sale that does much of what Xrumer can do (at least to the extent that it is needed for this particular job), I haven't looked into it that much... and I doubt I'll be replacing SB anytime soon either. So there would still be a couple small portions that were external to my personal bots, but I'm not too worried about that. It's not difficult to send out a scrapebox blast if you've already got the setup for it.

    As far as progress goes, I haven't made any 'tangible' progress since posting this. I've actually been focusing on designing the file structure for how things will be saved, processed, etc in an organized way. I want to make it as efficient as possible once I get going with it, unfortunately for the time being, I've got a couple other things fighting for my attention, but I have made progress in the planning stages.
     
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    Have you tried this linking method successfully post Penguin?