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  1. jackrabbit99

    jackrabbit99 Newbie

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    I am looking to create multiple virtual machines. These will be used for social media/google accounts/ ebay/amazon/ etc. Probably in the neighborhood of 500 vm's.
    I'm not a geek so these may be some basic questions:

    Is this reasonable and what should I remember when creating them in terms of allocating memory? I only need them to log in to various accounts, not do actual work while running them.
    Should I use a vpn service or proxies..another cheaper option?
    What you recommend for OS for that many?
    Organization once they've been created ?
    Miscellaneous advice?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Crewchief007

    Crewchief007 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Take a look at, "VMware Workstation 14 Pro"

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    https://store.vmware.com/store?Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&Locale=en_US&SiteID=vmware&productID=5124968900
    The software costs $250.00. Below are the operating systems that it supports. Yes, you will need proxies. And, there is an extremely steep learning curve.

    Supported host operating systems for Workstation Pro 12.x and 14.x (2129859)
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    2129859
    Purpose
    This article lists the supported host operating systems for VMware Workstation Pro 12.x and 14.x.
    Resolution
    This table lists the supported host operating systems for VMware Workstation Pro 12.x and 14.x. VMware Workstation Pro 12.x and above only supports 64-bit host operating systems.

    OS Vendor OS Release Workstation 12.x Workstation 14.x
    Asianux Asianux 3.0
    Canonical Ubuntu 17.04 Yes
    Canonical Ubuntu 16.04 Yes
    Canonical Ubuntu 15.10 Yes
    Canonical Ubuntu 15.04 Yes
    Canonical Ubuntu 16.04 Yes
    Canonical Ubuntu 14.10 Yes
    Canonical Ubuntu 14.04 Yes
    Canonical Ubuntu 13.10
    Canonical Ubuntu 13.04
    Canonical Ubuntu 12.10
    Canonical Ubuntu 12.04
    Canonical Ubuntu 11.10
    Canonical Ubuntu 11.04
    CentOS CentOS 7.4 Yes
    CentOS CentOS 7.3
    CentOS CentOS 7.2
    CentOS CentOS 7.1 Yes
    CentOS CentOS 7.0 Yes
    CentOS CentOS 6.5 Yes
    CentOS CentOS 6.4
    CentOS CentOS 6.3
    CentOS CentOS 6.2
    CentOS CentOS 6.1
    CentOS CentOS 6.0
    CentOS CentOS 5.10
    CentOS CentOS 5.9
    CentOS CentOS 5.8
    CentOS CentOS 5.7
    CentOS CentOS 5.6
    CentOS CentOS 5.5
    CentOS CentOS 5.4
    CentOS CentOS 5.3
    CentOS CentOS 5.2
    CentOS CentOS 5.1
    Debian Debian 9.1 Yes
    Debian Debian 9.0 Yes
    Debian Debian 8.9 Yes
    Debian Debian 8.1 Yes
    Mandriva Mandriva Linux 4.0
    Mandriva Mandriva Linux 2010
    Mandriva Mandriva Linux 2009
    Mandriva Mandriva Linux 2008
    Mandriva Mandriva Linux 2007
    Mandriva Mandriva Linux 2006
    Mandriva Mandrake Linux 10.0
    Mandriva Mandrake Linux 9.0
    Microsoft Windows Server 2016 Yes
    Microsoft Windows Server 2012 R2 Yes Yes
    Microsoft Windows Server 2012 Yes Yes
    Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 Yes Yes
    Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 Yes
    Microsoft Windows Server 2008
    Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2
    Microsoft Windows Server 2003
    Microsoft Windows 10 Yes Yes
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Yes Yes
    Microsoft Windows 8 Yes Yes
    Microsoft Windows 7 Yes Yes
    Microsoft Windows XP
    Microsoft Windows Vista
    Oracle Oracle Linux 7 Yes
    Oracle Oracle Linux 6.4
    Oracle Oracle Linux 6.3
    Oracle Oracle Linux 6.2
    Oracle Oracle Linux 6.1
    Oracle Oracle Linux 6.0
    Oracle Oracle Linux 5.9
    Oracle Oracle Linux 5.8
    Oracle Oracle Linux 5.7
    Oracle Oracle Linux 5.6
    Oracle Oracle Linux 5.5
    Oracle Oracle Linux 5.4
    Oracle Oracle Linux 5.3
    Oracle Oracle Linux 5.2
    Oracle Oracle Linux 5.1
    Oracle Oracle Linux 5.0
    Red Hat Red Hat Linux 9
    Red Hat Fedora 26 Yes
    Red Hat Fedora 25 Yes
    Red Hat Fedora 22 Yes
    Red Hat Red Hat Linux 8
    Red Hat Red Hat Linux 7
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 Yes
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.3 Yes
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Yes
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.0 Yes
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.9 Yes
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.7 Yes
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.5 Yes
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.3
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.2
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.1
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.0
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.10 Yes
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.9
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.8
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.7
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.6
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.5
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.4
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.3
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.2
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.11 Yes
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.0
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.8
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.7
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.6
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.5
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.0 Update 4
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.0 Update 3
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.0 Update 2
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.0 Update 1
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.0
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0 Update 8
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0 Update 7
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0 Update 6
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0 Update 5
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0 Update 4
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0 Update 3
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0 Update 2
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0 Update 1
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0
    Red Hat Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2.1
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server/Desktop 12 SP3 Yes
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 Yes
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 Service Pack 3 Yes
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 Service Pack 2
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 Service Pack 1
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 Service Pack 3
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 Service Pack 2
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 Service Pack 1
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 9 Service Pack 4
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 9 Service Pack 3
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 9 Service Pack 2
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 9 Service Pack 1
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 9
    SUSE SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 8
    SUSE SUSE Linux 10.1
    SUSE SUSE Linux 10.0
    SUSE SUSE Linux 9.3
    SUSE SUSE Linux 9.2
    SUSE SUSE Linux 9.1
    SUSE SUSE Linux 9.0
    SUSE SUSE Linux 8.2
    SUSE openSUSE 42.3 Yes
    SUSE openSUSE 13.2 Yes
    SUSE openSUSE 13.1 Yes
    SUSE openSUSE 12.3 Yes
    SUSE openSUSE 12.2
    SUSE openSUSE 12.1
    SUSE openSUSE 11.4
    SUSE openSUSE 11.3
    SUSE openSUSE 11.2
    SUSE openSUSE 11.1
    SUSE openSUSE 11.0
    SUSE openSUSE 10.3
    SUSE openSUSE 10.2
     
  3. jackrabbit99

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    Hey thanks...I appreciate it. I have virtualbox. Are you suggesting vmware because it's easier to clone? Also, for the extremely steep learning curve, how so? I've created a few ubuntu vm's. Doesn't seem too hard except the organization of many accounts. Do you mean handling all the separate vm's? Appreciate it
     
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    In terms of being easier to clone, if there is a VM that is easier to clone, I'd like to see it. VMware features this:

    Additionally, VMWare has more options than VirtualBox in terms of operating systems and ease of use... unless VB has upgraded; its been 2.5 years since I used VB.

    That stated, once you learn VMWare, it's a piece of cake. Duly note, I no longer use it on a daily basis, as my VAs now handle those tasks.

    However, I went through the process of setting it up and it gave me some head scratching moments.

    Unless you are the geeky type, the learning curve for VMWare will probably be steep.

    Are you using VMs to manage social media, build backlinks, open accounts, etc?
     
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    You need multiple IPs with a clean slate, not necessarily VMs.
     
  6. jackrabbit99

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    Thanks! I actually found setting up vm's to be pretty easy with virtual box once I ironed out a couple hiccups. Do you remember what you had trouble with that you say the learning curve was steep? I just followed youtube setups lol.

    As far as using vm's in addition to proxies, I want to avoid canvas fingerprinting. I don't want the sites to be able to id my system build and link the accounts. If I have to, I will buy a new desktop for this purpose alone if it eats up too much memory. That's one of the reasons I'm asking about setting up such a high number. Thanks!!
     
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    You never stated what you're using VMs for.

    If it's for backlink buildinng, managing social media accounts and things of that nature, you don't need VMs with all of the available solutions.
     
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    I would recommend SSDs, regular hard drives are pretty slow for virtual machines.

    If you're worried about fingerprints, why stick to one OS? Mix them up.
     
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    Dedicated server and VirtualBox then setup proxy in these VM's
     
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    Thought I mentioned it..sorry, I'll be using them for setting up many amazon (buyer & seller) , fb, & instagram accts and other social media. I've heard amazon tracks the system builds.

    What i currently have is SSD but only 8 gb ram.

    I have window & ubuntu so far and prob going to try out qubes & others to see if I like them. For the browsers I'll use chrome & firefox.
    Obviously I'm new at setting up multiple vm's and have only played around with it. So any advice is helpful.
     
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    Honestly, for social media management, (like bartosimpsonio stated) there are better solutions than using VMs.

    There are numerous IMATs (Internet Marketing Automation Tools) such as: AutoFillMagic, IMACRO, Zennoposter, BuzzBundle, etc.) designed out the box to automate the account creation/login process, as well as posting content, likes, follows, and other wise managing multiple SM accounts

    Of course, you will need proxies, but such IMATs are a better solution than VMs, IMHO.
     
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    Why not use something like multilogin app with their new browser that's in beta? I can't even imagine trying to handle that many vms. I have 6 and it can be a pia.
     
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    One of the main things I'm concerned about is amazon buyer accounts and using it to make reviews. I don't want the reviews taken down. Since I've heard Amazon does canvas fingerprinting, I'd rather play the safest route. Do you guys think these other options are safe enough to avoid that? Thanks! yeah, I would rather not have to handle that many vm's is possible