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r00k · Oct 19, 2016

Is it just me or does everyone else have the same issue with other people writing their content?

Of the 30+ authors who have written money site quality content for me, I'm not really impressed by any of them. I give apt descriptions of what I want, but it never turns out perfect. It's kind of hard to relay what writing style I want other than saying "informal/formal" etc.

When the content comes back, all I do is say great job and then basically re-write the entire fucking article because I'm so picky with my moneysite content. It's like I can never get EXACTLY what I want, no matter what I pay.

Do I just accept this and deal with this as a side effect of buying content rather than writing it myself? Or one day am I going to find that content provider that nails it on the head with the style I like?

Or am I just a picky son of a bitch.

(This does not apply to any of the authors I've purchased from on BHW that was strictly Tier2 content and theyve been great)

tasburrfoot · Oct 19, 2016

r00k said:
Is it just me or does everyone else have the same issue with other people writing their content?

Of the 30+ authors who have written money site quality content for me, I'm not really impressed by any of them. I give apt descriptions of what I want, but it never turns out perfect. It's kind of hard to relay what writing style I want other than saying "informal/formal" etc.

When the content comes back, all I do is say great job and then basically re-write the entire fucking article because I'm so picky with my moneysite content. It's like I can never get EXACTLY what I want, no matter what I pay.

Do I just accept this and deal with this as a side effect of buying content rather than writing it myself? Or one day am I going to find that content provider that nails it on the head with the style I like?

Or am I just a picky son of a bitch.

(This does not apply to any of the authors I've purchased from on BHW that was strictly Tier2 content and theyve been great)

I'm pretty much in the same position. I just started writing my own content.

PHPInjected · Oct 19, 2016

Perhaps you should try providing an example of content you've re-written so the writer knows what kind of style you like. No matter who you find, no one is gonna be perfect, so why not just guide them to the style you want.

ContentWriter · Oct 19, 2016

Hi, @r00k!

A few days ago, I opened this thread: http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/when-hiring-a-writer-do-you-give-her-the-freedom-to-write-in-her-own-voice.882961/

I am a writer. I own a content writing business. It goes without saying that I have an army of writers that I personally trained.
Here's the thing. Even if I was the one who trained them, I am fully-aware that none of them can perfectly hit my own style or voice in writing.
This is the reason why I am still the main or lead writer of my personal website. Neil Patel also supports the idea of you, the site's owner, becoming the lead writer of your website. While their work can be posted as it is (I have editors, too), it's my "personal choice" to insert my "persona" in the article before I publish it.

Like what you've said, you're picky that's why you prefer to edit your writers' work. I am picky, too, but it doesn't mean my writers are terrible writers. It's just a personal choice or preference.

r00k · Oct 19, 2016

PHPInjected said:
Perhaps you should try providing an example of content you've re-written so the writer knows what kind of style you like. No matter who you find, no one is gonna be perfect, so why not just guide them to the style you want.

Good feedback. I've even gone so far as to flat out provide a moneysite to them so they can browse every article I had written on the niche. It was useless in most cases.

ContentWriter said:
Hi, @r00k!

A few days ago, I opened this thread: When Hiring a Writer: Do you give her the freedom to write in her own voice?

I am a writer. I own a content writing business. It goes without saying that I have an army of writers that I personally trained.
Here's the thing. Even if I was the one who trained them, I am fully-aware that none of them can perfectly hit my own style or voice in writing.
This is the reason why I am still the main or lead writer of my personal website. Neil Patel also supports the idea of you, the site's owner, becoming the lead writer of your website. While their work can be posted as it is (I have editors, too), it's my "personal choice" to insert my "persona" in the article before I publish it.

Like what you've said, you're picky that's why you prefer to edit your writers' work. I am picky, too, but it doesn't mean my writers are terrible writers. It's just a personal choice or preference.

I agree. It's not so much they're shitty writers and I'm an amazing writer. I'm half way decent and they're generally good, but honestly I'm not a fan of writing. I hated writing in college and tried to outsource it then too. I think you nailed it on the head. It really comes down to them not being able to capture the style and voice in writing that I want. I'll likely have to continue to edit their content into the style/voice I perceive my moneysite readers want.

ContentWriter · Oct 19, 2016

r00k said:
I agree. It's not so much a they're shitty writers and I'm an amazing writer. I'm half way decent, and honestly not a fan of writing. I hated writing in college and tried to outsource it then too. I think you nailed it on the head. It really comes down to them not being able to capture the style and voice in writing that I want. I'll likely have to continue to edit their content into the style/voice I perceive my moneysite readers want.

@r00k, for as long as your writers' work does not have terrible grammar issues, you should be fine.

CRT · Oct 19, 2016

BostonHype is the only service I've ever used that I didn't have to change a thing.

rrockk45 · Oct 19, 2016

Maybe you ought to have a go at giving a case of substance you've re-composed so the essayist recognizes what sort of style you like. Regardless of who you locate, nobody is going to be immaculate, so why not simply direct them to the style you need.

onlineonly · Oct 19, 2016

How much are you paying your writers? My experience is you get what you pay for basically. In the past I've used many cheap writers like $1-2 per 100 words but they all have one thing in comon "they suck". Nowdays I usually pay my writers around $5-6 per 100 words and the difference is like day and night.

ContentWriter · Oct 19, 2016

onlineonly said:
My experience is you get what you pay for basically

You nailed it, @onlineonly!

r00k · Oct 19, 2016

onlineonly said:
How much are you paying your writers? My experience is you get what you pay for basically. In the past I've used many cheap writers like $1-2 per 100 words but they all have one thing in comon "they suck". Nowdays I usually pay my writers around $5-6 per 100 words and the difference is like day and night.

Depends. Usually .04 to .08 a word. Depending on content I want.

etox · Oct 19, 2016

@onlineonly: That's exactly right, if people are only making a few cents per word they're going to care a lot less. They'll pump out content as quickly as they can so that they can get paid and move on tot he next article.

Toz · Oct 19, 2016

I take issue with this, as well. Some writers will overprice their work and STILL require that you rewrite the entire thing. This holds true with BHW content providers. I've recently started testing every writer I've come across, that provides the common lie of being a NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER/WRITER.

It's sickening. I generally shy away from anyone saying stupid shit like, "I provide quality contents". "Quality contents" is incorrect English, unless you're discussing ingredients, so don't lie to me with that Native English crap. Then, there's a certain flow to how real English speakers speak, and it looks nothing like WordAI English or foreign English syntax.

Some advice I can offer (regarding Money-Site content):

- Avoid people that say "QUALITY CONTENTS" in their sales thread (Salespage + Prospect/Client Responses).
- Both singular and plural forms of "content", should be cited as, "content". Avoid people that advertise "contents" in their sales thread (Salespage + Prospect/Client Responses).
- Check for grammatical and structural errors in their sales threads (Salespage + Prospect/Client Responses).
- Watch for dodgy sellers that don't fucking answer generic questions in their sales threads (ie: Q: What is the TAT for 2, 500-word articles? A: pm sent)

There are a few more things to take note of, but I don't want the crappy sellers to mask their crappiness, after reading what I'm writing.

Toz · Oct 19, 2016

Oh, and one other thing I'll add...

Watch out for the heavy emphasis on passing Copyscape. It's pretty much a given that nobody is here to BUY duplicate content. This just goes without saying. DO check your content is unique, once received, but generally, I've found sellers selling Copyscape-passing content, typically spend so much time worrying about Copyscape, that their article is trash.

r00k · Oct 19, 2016

Tosmekop said:
Oh, and one other thing I'll add...

Watch out for the heavy emphasis on passing Copyscape. It's pretty much a given that nobody is here to BUY duplicate content. This just goes without saying. DO check your content is unique, once received, but generally, I've found sellers selling Copyscape-passing content, typically spend so much time worrying about Copyscape, that their article is trash.

This is so true, I head for the hills on these. I shouldnt need to be sold on the fact the content is unique. It should be a given. Sell me on the quality of the work.

tasburrfoot · Oct 20, 2016

r00k said:
This is so true, I head for the hills on these. I shouldnt need to be sold on the fact the content is unique. It should be a given. Sell me on the quality of the work.

I've been going through the marketplace for link building/content and some of the stuff I've gotten as samples just make me cringe.. Even higher priced BST threads with large number of posts/reviews.

Tosmekop said:
I take issue with this, as well. Some writers will overprice their work and STILL require that you rewrite the entire thing. This holds true with BHW content providers. I've recently started testing every writer I've come across, that provides the common lie of being a NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER/WRITER.

It's sickening. I generally shy away from anyone saying stupid shit like, "I provide quality contents". "Quality contents" is incorrect English, unless you're discussing ingredients, so don't lie to me with that Native English crap. Then, there's a certain flow to how real English speakers speak, and it looks nothing like WordAI English or foreign English syntax.

Some advice I can offer (regarding Money-Site content):

- Avoid people that say "QUALITY CONTENTS" in their sales thread (Salespage + Prospect/Client Responses).
- Both singular and plural forms of "content", should be cited as, "content". Avoid people that advertise "contents" in their sales thread (Salespage + Prospect/Client Responses).
- Check for grammatical and structural errors in their sales threads (Salespage + Prospect/Client Responses).
- Watch for dodgy sellers that don't fucking answer generic questions in their sales threads (ie: Q: What is the TAT for 2, 500-word articles? A: pm sent)

There are a few more things to take note of, but I don't want the crappy sellers to mask their crappiness, after reading what I'm writing.

The native speaking thing gets me all the time too, "native English speaker" add on skype, and it's some guy from New Delhi that can barely string together two sentences without a grammatical error.. The quality of sellers is incredibly low lately, and there are HUNDREDS of sellers to filter through, it hurts my head. I've been trying to write all of my own content, but it's beginning to take up more of my time then I would like.

So if either of you come across a seller that is good - let me know!

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