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[Method] Unique form of ORM

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by elavmunretea, Oct 18, 2016.

  1. elavmunretea

    elavmunretea Elite Member

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    I'm sure that most of you have come across ORM, or Online Reputation Management before, and maybe you've read some threads on the subject like this one, or this one.

    Today I'm going to be sharing with you a slight variation of those methods, which can easily become a full-time earner if you put enough effort to it.

    I know that most of you will have downloaded, or at least seen, some pirated/ cracked software during your time on BHW and other forums, but have you ever wondered how much damage you are doing to the small-time developers who made it?

    The more intelligent amongst you will have already twigged, but for those who haven't, in short, we will be charging developers for removing pirated Software/ Images/ Music etc.

    Step One -Finding the client:

    First and foremost we need to find some clients whose software has been leaked online. By far the easiest way to find leaked/ pirated software is to browse online forums, like BHW, for shared download links. Just taking a quick look at the Download section here, and my page is literally crammed with potential clients.

    Basically, we are looking for anything virtual that has the possibility to be shared online without being paid for. To begin with, I would suggest that you target small development firms/ developers, for obvious reasons, but as you gain experience and build up a wide-range of testimonials, there's no reason why you can't approach the big fish!

    Step Two -Landing the client:

    After finding a product that you think will work, we need to establish where else it has been shared/ uploaded.

    To do this, we need to make the following Searches:

    Get [Product] Download
    Get [Product]
    [Product] Download
    [Product] Download Free
    [Product] Free Download
    [Product] Nulled
    [Product] Cracked
    Mediafire [Product]
    Zippyshare [Product]

    Every time you see the product being shared on a file-sharing website, note down the link as we will need them later.

    Once you are confident you have found enough links, then next thing to do is contact the developer/ company (Search up their name and find their email/ phone etc.)

    You should develop your draft over time as you gain more experience, but for now, just stick to this letter:

    Hello there,

    My name is [Name] and I am messaging you on behalf of my Online Reputation Management firm, [Name].

    I recently came across your [Product], which looks great by the way, however, after looking into it a bit more, I came across hundreds of leaked and cracked versions of your [Product] on various file-hosting websites.

    After a bit more searching, I found that a staggering 500 people had pirated your software from the websites I found, can you imagine how much money you would have made if even a fraction of those people bought it?

    As you can see from these links I found with a quick Google search, your product leaked on many file sharing sites, which is just not on!

    [Link] x 5

    After years in the Online Reputation Management industry, my firm and I have become experienced with these types of cases and we have developed a method to legally remove all of these links from file-sharing sites.

    With our unique approach, we are able to make it almost impossible for people to pirate your [Product], which will not only result in more sales for you but also improve your Brand's appearance overall.

    If you are interested in removing these links from the public eye and inevitably increasing sales and revenue then don't hesitate to get in touch!

    Regards,

    [Name]

    ORM Manager, [Name]

    A few days after sending out this message to as many publishers as you can, you should hopefully receive a reply from one wanting to know more.

    After a bit of sweet talking and sucking up, you should hopefully land your first client. When it comes to finalising a deal, I highly suggest that you bill them on a monthly basis (As more links will pop up in the future) and charge them according to size. For example, you could charge a small publisher with one product around $40/ month, whereas a larger company with a large range of products may be willing to pay above the $100/ month mark.

    Step 3 -Work work work:

    By now you should have at least one customer under your belt. So, now it's time to get down to the real work and start removing links.

    We will be removing the links by filing a DMCA Takedown request with the file hosting site, which is actually incredibly easy.

    For example, if the item is available on Mediafire, you would go to Help > Contact Us > Submit a Ticket and from there you easily select "DMCA Takedown" from the drop-down menu.

    Once you are there you then want to send another letter, this time to the file-host, on behalf of the publisher. You may also want to develop your own draft as time goes on, but for now, you can use this:

    Hello,

    My name is [Name] and I am contacting you on behalf of [Name]. We were recently made aware that a copy of our [Product] has been shared illegally on your system, which is infringing on at least one copyright owned by my company.

    The product that has been shared without consent can be seen here [Product Link] and the unauthorised and infringing material can be found here [File-host link]

    This letter is an official notification under Section 512(c) of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (”DMCA”), and I seek the removal of the aforementioned infringing material from your servers. I request that you immediately notify the infringer of this notice and inform them of their duty to remove the infringing material immediately, and notify them to cease any further posting of infringing material to your server in the future.

    Please also be advised that law requires you, as a service provider, to remove or disable access to the infringing materials upon receiving this notice. Under US law a service provider, such as yourself, enjoys immunity from a copyright lawsuit provided that you act with deliberate speed to investigate and rectify ongoing copyright infringement. If service providers do not investigate and remove or disable the infringing material this immunity is lost. Therefore, in order for you to remain immune from a copyright infringement action, you will need to investigate and ultimately remove or otherwise disable the infringing material from your servers with all due speed should the direct infringer, your client, not comply immediately.

    I am providing this notice in good faith and with the reasonable belief that rights my company owns are being infringed. Under penalty of perjury I certify that the information contained in the notification is both true and accurate, and I have the authority to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright(s) involved.

    Should you wish to discuss this with me please contact me directly, you can contact me here [Form of contact]

    Thank you,

    [Name] [Address] [Contact]

    That's it. After no more than fifteen minutes of searching you should find easily enough potential clients to make a decent amount of money and after a few weeks of messaging, you can be earning $500+ easily.

    Although the work only takes a few hours per client at the most, if you've half as lazy as me, then you may like to hire a Virtual assistant (You can find one here) to do the grunt work for you.

    I'm sure some of you can put some fantastic twists on this to really skyrocket it.

    - Happy Earning <3
     
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  2. Skyebug77

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    Very nice share...
     
  3. Wolston

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    Great method. Very out of the box kind of thinking. Thanks for sharing it here.
    Have you tried it? Any early results?
     
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    Nice Method. Thanx for sharing.
     
  5. Sombrero

    Sombrero Senior Member

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    This won't work. Developers know piracy helps their sells since the updates are the ones that counts.
     
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  6. tamerbek

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    And they know that crackers will upload every new updated version of software :)
     
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    Such a neat idea! A feel good job as well :)
     
  8. r00k

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    I feel like I'm crazy. Why would they pay you if their the copyright holder. Submitting DMCA takedown notices to Google is easy as shit. Simply have the results removed themselves in minutes.
     
  9. elavmunretea

    elavmunretea Elite Member

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    Hope you guys put it to good use!

    That was just a draft I typed up quickly then, you can use whatever you want and, in fact, I strongly suggest you do.

    Wrong wrong wrong. Firstly, think outside the box! Can you update a song? What's to stop people pirating the update? No one likes piracy, especially not people who put a massive amount of effort into something, only for it to be pied off for free.

    I guess some are savvy enough to do this, but others aren't and that's your target market. Also, them getting removed from Google doesn't stop them going away, there are forums etc.
     
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  10. eunicemartinez_21

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    Dont want to be a dick but this method is rehashed. This has been shared here a long time ago and it immediately become saturated that time.

    I know this cause I tried this methid before. Im not sure if the op is making money out of this method. Are you op?
     
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  11. SilverKnight

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    Nice share. But what about torrents? I think more pirated softwares are downloaded from torrents than from file sharing sites. Is there a way to take down torrents?
     
  12. Sombrero

    Sombrero Senior Member

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    This method isn't a twist someone posted before like in 2012.
     
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  13. elavmunretea

    elavmunretea Elite Member

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    The fact that some people in this thread haven't heard of it is a big enough reason for me to share it
     
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  14. Sombrero

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    Yea but don't lie to them and give false expectations.
     
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    Is this ORM? Not really in terms of reviews and brand mentions. But it is a nice take on working with larger brands compared to the more usual ORM local clientele...
     
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    that's the truth. I agree.
     
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    If that's the case, then BHW would be full of rehashed methods and no one wants that. The original method can be found here and extends to e-books, themes, etc... not just software that can be pirated online. As the OP said in that thread, this method isn't about making money or not - it will make money as every other method out there if you put in the effort. Now, if it's worth your time, that's another matter entirely and depends on the individual and how much they value their time. In my opinion, it's not worth it, especially if you target only developers for a few reasons:

    1) Developers are among the most tech savvy people on the planet. If you can figure out how to submit a couple of DMCA requests, so can they. I'm a developer myself, so I know what I'm talking about. Based on this fact alone, your conversion rates will be low, but not zero - you might still land developers who simply don't have enough time to do this themselves or they value their time a lot and would be happy paying you a small monthly fee to keep ahead of the game and find pirated copies as soon as they shared.

    However, don't insult them or their intelligence by saying that they aren't tech savvy. If they can automate complex stuff, write API-s, etc... they sure as hell can perform complex queries in Google or submit requests. Instead, you should sell them on the fact that their time is too valuable to keep track of all the pirated links on the web and for just a small monthly payment, they can outsource this grunt work to you (but don't tell them you outsource the work yourself of course).

    2) Before even starting the work, all developers (beginners or seniors alike) know that sooner or later, their software will be cracked & shared for free online. It's inevitable, because that's how the WWW works. So, they take steps to prevent this and it usually comes in 3 forms: implementing server-side licensing, obfuscating the source code so it cannot be reverse engineered and releasing the whole software in incremental updates rather than at once (see point 3 below). The developers that really value their business and software will implement at least server-side licensing and if they do, they do NOT need you, ever!

    That's because even if their software is shared, it can't be cracked. Try finding a working pirated license of SB, GSA or any other popular software, you can't. Well, you can, but be prepared to get some nasty viruses and RAT-s in your system, because that's the whole point of those shares - to infect your system, because the software doesn't work anyway. There are flaws in this kind of licensing system as well, but they are fixable.

    3) No one buys software nowadays and expects 100% of the features to be there. The developer releases most features incrementally with each update and there are lots of reasons to do this. Also, every software will break!!! That means, there will always be bugs that need to be fixed on a monthly basis (the best case scenario is monthly, but it never happens if the software is complex enough). That's what the end user pays for anyway each month - updates, new features and bug fixes.

    Instead, if a user relies on pirated copies, even if the copy works now, it won't work later, so he will have to wait until the "cracker"/uploader uploads the new version for free. Most people won't bother doing this especially if they are not tech savvy & are afraid of viruses, and they will make the investment of buying the software. Those that don't would never buy the software anyway, so the developer doesn't really lose any business or money. Those genuine people that want to try before they buy can use the free trial or demo that is usually offered by the developers.

    Your method works, there is no doubt about it. However, in this long reply, I tried to explain why the conversion rates will be too low if you focus on developers and software only. I think people should have this information before they invest time and money in implementing this method!
     
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