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[METHOD] Seeing Future SERPS Today!!!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by MagicMike, Dec 12, 2010.

  1. MagicMike

    MagicMike Power Member

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    I've not seen this talked about here before... I've been using this simple method with incredible accuracy for the past 9 months to see EXACTLY where my geo-targeted sites are headed in the SERPS.

    This method will tell you weeks (at least) in advance whether your site is moving up or down in the rankings and will tell you where your competitors are going as well.

    Here It Is:

    1. This works with only (as far as I can tell) geo-targeted keywords (i.e. Roswell Pest Control)... AND only for city names that do not match a city name in the U.K.

    2. Here is an example of this method in action. Go to Google (USA) and search for "Roswell Pest Control". You'll see that our target site (for this example) is on the second page (roswellpestcontrol911.com).

    3. Now go to Google UK and search the same term. You'll see that our target site is on the FIRST page! Around number 6 in the SERPS!

    I've discovered that this is where the site should REALLY be ranking once all of the Google filters and new domain penalties, etc. peel off! It's like the Google UK site gives the "true", "unfiltered" results!

    I've tested this DOZENS of times and without fail... in several weeks the site always moves to the Google UK location. You can monitor your progress in advance with this knowledge, fix problems before they show up in Google USA SERPS and monitor where your competitors are going as well.

    It gives you the ability to "see the future" so to speak.

    It also gives you the ability to show this to your client so that they can see where they are headed instead of having to always explain the reasons why they are NOT moving... now they can see for themselves.

    I'm not sure of the reasons behind the algo of why this works... but believe me, it works perfectly!

    It's like the USA's filters are not applied on the UK search site (which does make sense)... so they return the "pure" results.

    Anyway, wanted to pass this on... maybe others can expand this method and post results as well.
     
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  2. dannyhw

    dannyhw Senior Member

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    I suspect that what's really happening is that in the USA, local results are being weighted more heavily. In the UK, only the regular algorithm applies. So in the UK, you can see that your sites have outranked all of the competition when being local isn't beneficial. In the USA, you probably need just a bit more of a push which will happen as more links are indexed. So yes it will only work when there are lots of local sites ranked high and won't happen when a the term triggers the UK site to go local.
     
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    dannyhw Senior Member

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    Oh hmm I thought yours were the .net and .org. They look like they're going to the top while you look like you're going up in non local results. Very interesting.
     
  4. MagicMike

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    That's not one of my actual sites... just had to find an example.

    I may be missing something here... but the results have been consistent.
     
  5. dannyhw

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    Hmm there could be other factors that are different that aren't readily visible but still have to do with the difference between local and regular search. If that's what's going on it definitely seems like it would be a really good way to predict results.
     
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    i am heading from page 2 to page 3. guess i better work on it.
     
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    aznxmtg Regular Member

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    You tend to rank higher for your keyword if your server is in that location.

    E.g. I have an offshore server, I tend to rank #1 for all those keywords before I start to rank in Google.com. It is working correctly, and it is not really predicting. It is harder to rank in Google.com.
     
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    Local keywords with local results showing in Google USA?
     
  9. MagicMike

    MagicMike Power Member

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    Agreed... but all of my domains are hosted in the US... and I've seen this effect literally dozens of times. Hard to explain, but it has been VERY accurate!
     
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    If your higher in Google UK, you should tell your customers to start searching on there.... good luck predicting the future
     
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    I just checked a dozen terms across different local clients and it doesn't seem congruent with what I'm seeing in the US. I've popped last week on 4 terms and they aren't showing in UK. I didn't find an example of anything ranking in UK that was not ranking in the US.

    Can you give a little more background? I'm all about seeing the future, but I suspect it's just showing another view of the present.
     
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    It's probably because of the change in Time Zones. Your results in the UK arrive 1 day sooner, lol.

    Seriously though, searching from a foreign location yields results void of local algo influence. Can this be a benefit or yield any insight with any reliability? I doubt it. It is interesting for those who market outside of their local area though as they often believe others see the same SERPS that they do, which is not the case.
     
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    This is totally incorrect. Google.uk is a different search engine altogether. It is just that.....Google.uk not Google regular. What you have been seeing is a fluke :)
     
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    It's probably because of the change in Time Zones. Your results in the UK arrive 1 day sooner, lol.

    Seriously though, searching from a foreign location yields results void of local algo influence. Can this be a benefit or yield any insight with any reliability? I doubt it. It is interesting for those who market outside of their local area though as they often believe others see the same SERPS that they do, which is not the case.
     
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    I have a site that is page 1 and 2 for a few keywords in g.com, and is pages 9 and 10 in g.co.uk

    The keywords aren't geotargetted.

    Where am I going to be in 2 weeks? I say moving up in the rankings in g.com as I have been for the past 4 weeks while my g.co.uk creeps up slowly.

    EDIT: Why the disparity in serps? Simple...different competition.
     
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  16. Carnagge

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    Omg this isn't true. I assume you live in UK. When you do seo for uk site it's higher than in google.com. It also depends of the links - if they come from usa site you are higher in google.com than uk. This is hard to see when you have sites in english but if you have in some other languages you are always higher in your local google than in google.com. However if you have many links to your site from English websites you will also rank in google.com.

    I have many sites that are on 1st position on my local Google and are on about 50 position on google.com because I link to them only from the sites with the same language. This position are stable for about one year so you are completly wrong.
     
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    WOW...if this is true...then an autoblog that I started less than a month ago (and subsequently blasted the hell out of)...will soon be ranked #6 for its keyword. Currently it isnt' in the first 500 results in the US

    btw, this keyword has over 670K monthly searches :)

    that just made my day...THANKS
     
  18. MagicMike

    MagicMike Power Member

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    What I've been finding is that it HAS to be geo-targeted... and it HAS to be a city name that the UK doesn't have. That way its not pulling any local (UK) results, because there isn't any.

    We all know that there are "penalties" and "filters" that domains go through... I'm convinced that there is something to this (since I've been watching it for so long), although I'll certainly admit that I am far from understanding everything about it.