I have a 2 year old domain, DA 45. Done a lot of work on it, but it got a manual penalty. I tried the linkremoval services, etc. And they didn't remove the penalty. It's pharma, and I know they won't remove it most likely. My question is, WITH the penalty. if I spend a lot of effort building amazing high quality links. WILL it rank? It's bouncing around the serps right now and slowly climbing around page 4-5, but hasnt moved past that much. I'm curious to know if I should even bother building more links and will it rank #1 at ALL? dont worry about my keywords, or my stats. I feel I know what I'm doing. I'm just curious if OTHERS have ranked manual penalty sites to #1 at all, or does the algo completely cut you off from achieving top spot and there's no chance in hell?