Making money online isnt that easy

kukuruziuz said:
I don't think I would have just dropped YouTube like that. You have already developed a skillset and just tossing it to a side and moving to something new doesn't seem like an optimal choice. Could you not use the same content and add commentary? This way it would not fall under reused content as your commentary would make it transformative and you would have no issues with monetisation or copyright strikes.

The best business you could be in is subscription services especially for digital products/software as it's reccuring revenue and you can scale it to the moon (Hyros, Mailchimp, Shopify, etc.). OnlyFans kinda work in a similar principle, but if you lose your subs after a month it kinda defeats the purpose. If you lose your subs after a month, the customer lifetime value is too low and the acquisition costs of the said customer is too high to make it scalable or worth putting effort in. In the time that it would take me to get an OF sub for $4.99 or $9.99, I could get 1-3 sales doing dropshipping/POD making $10-$20 per sale. The same goes with YouTube, it's easier to get 30k views at $1 RPM than getting 6 OF subs at $4.99.

I don't know how you gonna make this work, cause I tried and the numbers just don't make sense.
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At the time, I had to scramble to find other ways to make money, and I was uninspired by the changes to keep on with it. I needed time to recover in how to find ways to get back onto the platform. I did eventually get back on there and am still on there today. I'm basically doing what you already mentioned with the commentary channels, but this method to stay safer never worked as well as just posting the videos as they were during that era plus the competition increased on YouTube as well, so viewership went down. Putting the videos together is harder and more time consuming now too because now I have to transform the video in 3 steps that weren't there when I would just nakedly upload the videos without any change to them. There's a lot more work that goes into them than it used to be. I chatted with people who were on the platform, and they had the same struggles as me making the money that we were making back then. It ain't the same YouTube that it used to be and I'm cool with it changing a lot over the past 6 years.

The subscription service overall is the best kind of money, ad-revenue has its ups and downs, so you're not really escaping a bad month here and there. That's why so many girls are successful with OnlyFans because subscription money is sort of like guaranteed money every month, especially if you're always able to replace your loss subs with new subs which is something you should be doing anyways as you should never get lazy or content with where you're at on your subscriber base as you should always be as hungry as you were the day you started in this journey. Selling digital products/software/courses is always a great niche to be in, but for me personally, I didn't do well with those niches in the past. I'm already more successful with this business getting 2 paid subscribers, as I never got a single subscription when I tried selling digital products, software, or courses in the past. I don't have a passion for selling that stuff as well, although I did have a digital product that I was inspired by, but it just never had any interest.

The price that I have set on my Patreon is actually at $15 as I think anything less than $7 is too low and not worth your time because you're getting cheapskates. You want people who want to pay more even if it's only a smaller amount of people. A lot of work goes into selling products as it's not as easy as it seems because you still have to market either way if you're selling stuff out of your own e-commerce store.

There is no easy route like I said before, you're going to have to put in the work, no matter what you do online, you can't be giving up too soon either because you're not seeing the dollars. That's what hurt me so many times before, that's why I told myself that AI models is the last stop for me. AI models is going to explode in the next 5-10 years as it's like crypto and OnlyFans before it hits and those industries had their share of doubters as well at one point before they exploded. I feel like this is like YouTube too because I was making money on that platform very early before people really started using the site a few years later. I think that's another reason why I made so much money too because the competition wasn't as fierce.

Like I said before, the fact that I got a couple of paid subscribers on my Patreon, it's already giving me a glimmer of hope that most of the other industries that I tried out didn't give me. I haven't even really done anything to even build up a base, so I feel lucky to even have those 2 subs. I think your problem is too, you're thinking too much in the short-term, and that's not what this is about. If you want to make the real good money you need to build up for the long-term. You might not see the numbers off the front because it's supposed to be like that, but if you start seeing them later then it'd be worth it.


awesomewebsites said:
If you feel making money online is not easy, try making money offline. You will be competing with others who are ready to sell on carts and will this cut out all the margins for you. They are ready to work 15 hours a day so good luck beating them in sales for same product.
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I agree 100%, making money offline is even harder and way more competitive. It's hard to move up in companies too as you have to deal with something that you don't deal with online and that's politics which is hard to get around. You also lose a lot of your freedom and time too. I personally like being my own boss, I don't like working for someone else and making them richer being their slave.
 
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Is not easy, it requires a lot of investigation and work to do it, test and fail manya people here failed before reaching success but now they are doing better I also found it difficult since I failed but started working for my friends in their journeys not bad but always need to addapt and self learn a lot.
 
It's year 2006. All you need to know is how to use Sony Vegas Pro.

Imagine being able to automate back then on your own. Da fuq.
 
DStiles said:
At the time, I had to scramble to find other ways to make money, and I was uninspired by the changes to keep on with it. I needed time to recover in how to find ways to get back onto the platform. I did eventually get back on there and am still on there today. I'm basically doing what you already mentioned with the commentary channels, but this method to stay safer never worked as well as just posting the videos as they were during that era plus the competition increased on YouTube as well, so viewership went down. Putting the videos together is harder and more time consuming now too because now I have to transform the video in 3 steps that weren't there when I would just nakedly upload the videos without any change to them. There's a lot more work that goes into them than it used to be. I chatted with people who were on the platform, and they had the same struggles as me making the money that we were making back then. It ain't the same YouTube that it used to be and I'm cool with it changing a lot over the past 6 years.

The subscription service overall is the best kind of money, ad-revenue has its ups and downs, so you're not really escaping a bad month here and there. That's why so many girls are successful with OnlyFans because subscription money is sort of like guaranteed money every month, especially if you're always able to replace your loss subs with new subs which is something you should be doing anyways as you should never get lazy or content with where you're at on your subscriber base as you should always be as hungry as you were the day you started in this journey. Selling digital products/software/courses is always a great niche to be in, but for me personally, I didn't do well with those niches in the past. I'm already more successful with this business getting 2 paid subscribers, as I never got a single subscription when I tried selling digital products, software, or courses in the past. I don't have a passion for selling that stuff as well, although I did have a digital product that I was inspired by, but it just never had any interest.

The price that I have set on my Patreon is actually at $15 as I think anything less than $7 is too low and not worth your time because you're getting cheapskates. You want people who want to pay more even if it's only a smaller amount of people. A lot of work goes into selling products as it's not as easy as it seems because you still have to market either way if you're selling stuff out of your own e-commerce store.

There is no easy route like I said before, you're going to have to put in the work, no matter what you do online, you can't be giving up too soon either because you're not seeing the dollars. That's what hurt me so many times before, that's why I told myself that AI models is the last stop for me. AI models is going to explode in the next 5-10 years as it's like crypto and OnlyFans before it hits and those industries had their share of doubters as well at one point before they exploded. I feel like this is like YouTube too because I was making money on that platform very early before people really started using the site a few years later. I think that's another reason why I made so much money too because the competition wasn't as fierce.

Like I said before, the fact that I got a couple of paid subscribers on my Patreon, it's already giving me a glimmer of hope that most of the other industries that I tried out didn't give me. I haven't even really done anything to even build up a base, so I feel lucky to even have those 2 subs. I think your problem is too, you're thinking too much in the short-term, and that's not what this is about. If you want to make the real good money you need to build up for the long-term. You might not see the numbers off the front because it's supposed to be like that, but if you start seeing them later then it'd be worth it.



I agree 100%, making money offline is even harder and way more competitive. It's hard to move up in companies too as you have to deal with something that you don't deal with online and that's politics which is hard to get around. You also lose a lot of your freedom and time too. I personally like being my own boss, I don't like working for someone else and making them richer being their slave.
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DStiles said:
At the time, I had to scramble to find other ways to make money, and I was uninspired by the changes to keep on with it. I needed time to recover in how to find ways to get back onto the platform. I did eventually get back on there and am still on there today. I'm basically doing what you already mentioned with the commentary channels, but this method to stay safer never worked as well as just posting the videos as they were during that era plus the competition increased on YouTube as well, so viewership went down. Putting the videos together is harder and more time consuming now too because now I have to transform the video in 3 steps that weren't there when I would just nakedly upload the videos without any change to them. There's a lot more work that goes into them than it used to be. I chatted with people who were on the platform, and they had the same struggles as me making the money that we were making back then. It ain't the same YouTube that it used to be and I'm cool with it changing a lot over the past 6 years.

The subscription service overall is the best kind of money, ad-revenue has its ups and downs, so you're not really escaping a bad month here and there. That's why so many girls are successful with OnlyFans because subscription money is sort of like guaranteed money every month, especially if you're always able to replace your loss subs with new subs which is something you should be doing anyways as you should never get lazy or content with where you're at on your subscriber base as you should always be as hungry as you were the day you started in this journey. Selling digital products/software/courses is always a great niche to be in, but for me personally, I didn't do well with those niches in the past. I'm already more successful with this business getting 2 paid subscribers, as I never got a single subscription when I tried selling digital products, software, or courses in the past. I don't have a passion for selling that stuff as well, although I did have a digital product that I was inspired by, but it just never had any interest.

The price that I have set on my Patreon is actually at $15 as I think anything less than $7 is too low and not worth your time because you're getting cheapskates. You want people who want to pay more even if it's only a smaller amount of people. A lot of work goes into selling products as it's not as easy as it seems because you still have to market either way if you're selling stuff out of your own e-commerce store.

There is no easy route like I said before, you're going to have to put in the work, no matter what you do online, you can't be giving up too soon either because you're not seeing the dollars. That's what hurt me so many times before, that's why I told myself that AI models is the last stop for me. AI models is going to explode in the next 5-10 years as it's like crypto and OnlyFans before it hits and those industries had their share of doubters as well at one point before they exploded. I feel like this is like YouTube too because I was making money on that platform very early before people really started using the site a few years later. I think that's another reason why I made so much money too because the competition wasn't as fierce.

Like I said before, the fact that I got a couple of paid subscribers on my Patreon, it's already giving me a glimmer of hope that most of the other industries that I tried out didn't give me. I haven't even really done anything to even build up a base, so I feel lucky to even have those 2 subs. I think your problem is too, you're thinking too much in the short-term, and that's not what this is about. If you want to make the real good money you need to build up for the long-term. You might not see the numbers off the front because it's supposed to be like that, but if you start seeing them later then it'd be worth it.



I agree 100%, making money offline is even harder and way more competitive. It's hard to move up in companies too as you have to deal with something that you don't deal with online and that's politics which is hard to get around. You also lose a lot of your freedom and time too. I personally like being my own boss, I don't like working for someone else and making them richer being their slave.
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The OF business is already saturated as it is. If you go to Reddit you'll see OF girls complaining how much more difficult it is getting every year. When you'll add all the new AI models on top of that, it's gonna get even more saturated. Most girls do not make enough money to make living doing this. Those that do make money work with agencies that have twitter/reddit/bumble/tinder bot farms allowing them to drive substansial amount of traffic. On top of that social media platforms do not like adult content and it's getting more and more restrictive making it more difficult to bot/drive organic traffic/create new accounts. How are you gonna compete with that? What's your edge? From what you've said so far it doesn't seem like you have a plan in place, it looks like you just gonna wing it and hope it works. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
It is better to combine both offline and online business while you're searching for your way to earn money. Anyway, find the thing you like the most and try finding your occupation there. If it doesn't work try something else that you enjoy too. It's hard, it's not always a rewarding work but this is the way you do it
 
Nothing is easy lmao, you think that ppl r just going to give you their money?
 
kukuruziuz said:
The OF business is already saturated as it is. If you go to Reddit you'll see OF girls complaining how much more difficult it is getting every year. When you'll add all the new AI models on top of that, it's gonna get even more saturated. Most girls do not make enough money to make living doing this. Those that do make money work with agencies that have twitter/reddit/bumble/tinder bot farms allowing them to drive substansial amount of traffic. On top of that social media platforms do not like adult content and it's getting more and more restrictive making it more difficult to bot/drive organic traffic/create new accounts. How are you gonna compete with that? What's your edge? From what you've said so far it doesn't seem like you have a plan in place, it looks like you just gonna wing it and hope it works. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Honestly, that's natural since OF had already peaked during the pandemic era as that's when it really took off in 2020 and 2021. Girls who got in after that were too late, and shouldn't be expecting to make the money that girls who got in early or on-time had already gotten. You never get in on trends when they peak, you get in way before then as crypto and YouTube were the same way like I said before. Before 2016, was the best time to become a creator on YouTube. OF is going to continue to get more saturated because more girls need it right now. The girls who got in before are still making good money because their fanbase and subscribers are dedicated to them forever. Girls have to work much harder to turn this into a living as it might take them a lot longer too.

There are girls who just got in on OF who are still making money, but not enough to live off of just yet, even though it's saturated that doesn't mean you can't make money, you just gonna be making less money girls in previous years.

The good thing about OF though is that because it's in the adult industry, it's evergreen, so there's never truly going to be a point with it where it doesn't give girls the ability to make money, but I do think AI models might kill the OF platform, but not the business itself. This is why girls have to smarten up and get onto other platforms like a Fansly, Lonelyfans, Slushy, Fanvue, Patreon, or whatever. I think opening up their own site is the best route long-term for them. The people behind OF hate sex workers, and the moment something threatens their business and they lose revenue, they will shut those girls off. OF not accepting AI models will kill them too.

I don't need to compete with OF because I'm in the AI industry, so the advantages that I have will take care of itself, but my head space is better than others because I'm not looking for fast money out of this as I'm in this for the long-term. The ways to get subscribers these days will be way different. I'm using social media to mainly build up my brand for my model. I'm looking into paid ads which is something that people don't really talk about too much in this industry, but it's worked for me in the past in other industries, so I'm going to look back into it.

Basically, it's just like anything you gotta wing it and see where it goes, but I know the potential is there. Either way, I'm never giving up on it though.
 
On point, I believe most of the "easy money gurus" back in the day made it seem that way for a lot of people. When I went into paid marketing I took a job at an affiliate network first so I could learn how the other side worked as well, really enjoyed it too.

Before that, it was all a bunch of torrent websites that I built at a young age and the money was good while it lasted.

On that job, I made so many connections and your network is your net worth, from being surprised and looking up to someone doing a couple hundred daily to people that couldn't give a single fuck about spending 10/30K USD on retarded VIP booths in Vegas.

Starting with nothing so to speak or a couple of hundred dollars is going to be insanely hard, for some, it's meant to be and I have seen 19-year-olds going from nothing to 6 and even 7 figures in months but also this depends on a bit of luck, being born in Norway for example versus freelancing in Bangladesh.

This wasn't meant with racial intent just pure facts, but let me tell you the best person I ever met was from India and way above my level at that point but we got along and that mix and connections made all the difference.

I'm not sure how to describe it, life is just one long hustle but your ultimate goal is to be able to NOT work or even THINK about working and have your entire business "cloned" and run by people on your payroll so you can win back on time.

I took a 4 or even 5-year break due to my health which is still absolute shit, it's like still knowing how to walk but fuck me things have changed, traffic became more expensive but the offers/products kept paying the same and I am a bit of a year or two later now and back in the game but it wasn't easy.

I'm going on about paid marketing lol, and don't know OP but here is what I do know.

LISTEN lol.

1: Most if not all advertisers/publishers are using video content now. These used to cost a lot but now we have AI, and we got the tools right.

I need video ads myself and it's hard to find the right person, would instantly hire someone with a unique, edge to the videos they create and if that person is smart he or she would use all the AI tools and skills to save time to learn other shit as well.

2: Deep fake videos, huge demand huge... if you take a good amount of months and you can perfect this craft you can work for both the dark and good side.

3: Most of you are often so much more skilled than the people with "MONEYS", so never sell yourself short. Look if you sell backlinks and you have good ones and need quick money brand it differently on here but brand it elsewhere such as Linkedin as a big exclusive company with a waiting list.

I see people on other forums selling the same links some of you here sell for 100x the price, it's about branding yourself.

4. Always follow the money, trends and right now if I were to tell my nephew (actually did and he is doing amazing) to get into AI, explore Web3, Build out your profile such as making your LinkedIn look professional, don't call people SIR as we are all equal and it allows others to take advantage of you.

Love writing here but going to cut it off, being here on BHW makes you 0.1% digitally smarter than multi-billion corporations so act that way.

I know my focus is going nowhere lmao but man make yourself big, look big, present big, learn some communication skills, and sell a 15$ backlink service for 2k to one out of the hundreds of thousands that would not be able to tell the difference.

Cheers, chicken, and beer await.

Short edit, to get back on my nephew for a bit. None in his class had a LinkedIn profile at that age, so we built a portfolio website as a CV instead of the old-school PDF or printed document, he spent his spare time making games even if they sucked he kept getting better but that's not what I mean, it's his way in companies, relationships versus all the other students that didn't have this.

Think of it like the Wolf of Wall Street where the fat kid confronted Leonardo, just this lead to him becoming rich as fuck that one single connection.
 
I agree with your statement. Which is why one needs to take baby steps first. Like for instance, start with survey sites, freelancing and then proceed to high ticket stuff like selling high quality links perhaps. One thing though, you would definitely want to be consistent in your effort and always have an ethical approach.

Having said that, I sincerely hope you find some or the other way to make the $$$ rain!
 
DStiles said:
Honestly, that's natural since OF had already peaked during the pandemic era as that's when it really took off in 2020 and 2021. Girls who got in after that were too late, and shouldn't be expecting to make the money that girls who got in early or on-time had already gotten. You never get in on trends when they peak, you get in way before then as crypto and YouTube were the same way like I said before. Before 2016, was the best time to become a creator on YouTube. OF is going to continue to get more saturated because more girls need it right now. The girls who got in before are still making good money because their fanbase and subscribers are dedicated to them forever. Girls have to work much harder to turn this into a living as it might take them a lot longer too.

There are girls who just got in on OF who are still making money, but not enough to live off of just yet, even though it's saturated that doesn't mean you can't make money, you just gonna be making less money girls in previous years.

The good thing about OF though is that because it's in the adult industry, it's evergreen, so there's never truly going to be a point with it where it doesn't give girls the ability to make money, but I do think AI models might kill the OF platform, but not the business itself. This is why girls have to smarten up and get onto other platforms like a Fansly, Lonelyfans, Slushy, Fanvue, Patreon, or whatever. I think opening up their own site is the best route long-term for them. The people behind OF hate sex workers, and the moment something threatens their business and they lose revenue, they will shut those girls off. OF not accepting AI models will kill them too.

I don't need to compete with OF because I'm in the AI industry, so the advantages that I have will take care of itself, but my head space is better than others because I'm not looking for fast money out of this as I'm in this for the long-term. The ways to get subscribers these days will be way different. I'm using social media to mainly build up my brand for my model. I'm looking into paid ads which is something that people don't really talk about too much in this industry, but it's worked for me in the past in other industries, so I'm going to look back into it.

Basically, it's just like anything you gotta wing it and see where it goes, but I know the potential is there. Either way, I'm never giving up on it though.
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The numbers still make no sense to me. The average girl on OF make $151 a month, which is a laughable amount of money if you live in a 1st world country. Where I live you can make that in 1.2 days working a minimum wage job. I think OF earnings are masssively overhyped, you hear people making crazy amount of money, but that's the top 1% or less. If you're top 1% on YouTube, ecom or pretty much any other field you can make the same money if not more.

I see the appeal of not having to work with a real model and saving 40%-60% of earnings, not having to wait for her to produce the content and generating it yourself... and still the amount of work that is required and what you get in return does not look like something that is worth spending time on.
 
kukuruziuz said:
The numbers still make no sense to me. The average girl on OF make $151 a month, which is a laughable amount of money if you live in a 1st world country. Where I live you can make that in 1.2 days working a minimum wage job. I think OF earnings are masssively overhyped, you hear people making crazy amount of money, but that's the top 1% or less. If you're top 1% on YouTube, ecom or pretty much any other field you can make the same money if not more.

I see the appeal of not having to work with a real model and saving 40%-60% of earnings, not having to wait for her to produce the content and generating it yourself... and still the amount of work that is required and what you get in return does not look like something that is worth spending time on.
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OnlyFans is a marketing platform, do you know who is making more money on OnlyFans? the one who is doing more marketing.
 
Nothing in life is easy. Same concept applies to making money online, or offline. There is no secret method, the truth is you can make money with everything you just have to be better at it than most.
 
It is a long way. You have to stay focused and motivated. It is really simple and difficult at the same time.
 
I have new advertising technique.

The photo shows what's up.

Try it for your sites

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Ps. The tablet sucks and is damn expensive.

Someone drew:

"slow down, you're doing fine <3"

What a feeling
Now we need to scale.

Everyone go to stores and bombard them phones en masse!!!!
 
Making money has not been easy for almost 10 years, from 2014 and onwards, it started getting so hard. As I remember, 2017-2018 were the years I made most money recently, since then my revenue it's just a fraction of that, like 20-30%. Everything is harder, SEO & organic marketing, even paid marketing is hard, freelance services are also hard, too many people working, etc.
 
rkt77 said:
Making money has not been easy for almost 10 years, from 2014 and onwards, it started getting so hard. As I remember, 2017-2018 were the years I made most money recently, since then my revenue it's just a fraction of that, like 20-30%. Everything is harder, SEO & organic marketing, even paid marketing is hard, freelance services are also hard, too many people working, etc.
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Jobs are easier. Just go for medium companies. And don't work all the time.

Forget working in software. ;) if you want life. Not work life balance. If you want LIFE.

Software is good if you're domain expert of some stuff like bots or logistics soft. Works on freelance, remotely.

Basically enterprise stuff that works with preexisting enterprise level stuff which isn't WordPress.

Maybe Magento. But I don't like e-commerce as everyone in this industry is a computer expert so atmosphere gets rough.

2 engineers are fine. But 5 spoil the dish and get into arguments... Or more like, 2 engineers plus 3 colleagues who pretend to do be able to help.

It's like kitchen. If everyone felt like a chef and held a knife at a restaurant and knew how to do best meal their way, it'd be a fest of nonsense.

Everyone, including cleaning lady would propose a different solution and complain about how slow it is
 
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