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Making a Lot Selling Counterfeit Products

Discussion in 'Dropshipping & Wholesale Hookups' started by BeCynical, Nov 30, 2019.

  1. BeCynical

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    Hello,

    I'm currently dropshipping selling what I 'believe' are counterfeits from aliexpress

    What is the worst case scenario, and how likely is that to happen compared to being simply contacted by the company asking me to cease this business?

    Worst case scenario is a lawsuit of course, which would be transnational, and I assume would cost them money and resources. But would they ever go this far to go after a single dropshipper?
     
  2. wpsokw

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    Following.
     
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    If you live in a 3rd world country shouldnt be a problem, but if you live in a country with active feds and so forth. then yup
     
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    So little Jimmys parents save for months to be able to buy him for Christmas the latest xxxxx which you dropship.
    They discover it's fake....

    You tell me what happens next.
     
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  5. wpsokw

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    ! *PURE SPECULATION AHEAD: But what if they either don't sell/allow the new xxxx in their country, but have found out that this new guy offers it? 'I'll take what I can get!' wohld be daddy's motto, I think. Especially in a lower tier country.
     
  6. BeCynical

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    I live in a first world-country, but this company does not operate in my country. It does not sell any products here whatsoever, hence i don't actively compete with them. Although I know they prefer not having me around....
     
  7. t2van

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    Well once you get trading standards involved it can go as far as court and jail time (speaking from experience)

    Depending on what you are selling it can be fines, fraud by false representation which carries fine and time. Worst case someone could die from the product then you are looking at fines, manslaughter and all sorts. A company in the UK sold beds claiming to be something they where not and a child died and the guy was fined and went to jail over it. I think, it was some time ago!

    All depends on the risk and what your doing / selling. There is so much can go wrong these days with electrical as well that's even worse just look at e-cig burns, batteries blowing up all sorts.

    If the product your selling should have some CE and it's missing that you got a host of issues as well.
     
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    What I suggest is that you email the supplier and specifically ask that these are genuine products, ask them to confirm they are not fake.
    At least that way you can have some form of deniability if you get a knock on the door from trading standards / law enforcement, or whatever department you have in your country.
     
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    What if he is selling fake t shirts or action figures maybe star wars legos something like that, toys, action figures, posters you get the idea, do you think they will send cease and desist or do you think they will file a case in his 3rd world country
     
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    Very possible, these companies have dedicated legal departments to sue copyright/trademark infringement. Lots of paperwork involved, and you stand very little chance of winning without an expensive lawyer.

    Jurisdiction is different in every country but if you are in the US I would advise you to go for another product. Not worth the headache
     
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  11. RRunner

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    The U.S. and U.K. will fine you and jail you. It doesn't matter if the companies complain or not. Companies do not enforce the law.

    This guy in the U.K. was selling fake Diesel jeans on eBay. A courier driver got suspicious about the packages so reported them. The seller was arrested and sentenced to nearly two years.

    Just a guy selling on eBay. Not some organized crime ring.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...man-Amit-Sharma-34-weeps-hes-sent-prison.html

    I think most people get fines and suspended sentences but you are asking about worse case scenarios. Worst case is huge fines and years in jail.
     
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    Well as I said it all depends what he sells. OP asked what's the worst that could happen without stating what he sells so I answered as such.

    OP stated its a first world country.
     
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    You could get lost with tons of legal paper work and a fine that is higher than any income you'd make. Just don't do it OP.
     
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    Worst scenario you will go to jail, a little less worst is a big criminal fine.

    Whatever you will do karma will get you in a way or other.
     
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    I am Indian and karma was invented here so i don't think karma will do much to me if i make few $ selling some harmless t-shirts from multi-billion dollar company so i can get enough money to go legit

    And there is another word "Dharma" its hard to put it in worlds and the simplest way i can say is the responsibility of a person or a Role of a person, for example Its the responsibility of a president/ prime minister to Role the country well, a role of a mother is to take good care of the child, a role of a doctor is to treat the patient, even if your role is something you do not like, you need to fulfill it, and a role for a businessman is to make lot of money,

    If anyone is Interested "Dharma" is a very intresting and a strong word and by understanding it my life has changed for the better, you don't have to be religious just Understand the world and i am sure you will improve atleast a little in your life

    A short definition in Hinduism is Dharma is your duty, duty may be anything Being a parent or working under someone or a soldier, everyone has Duty they need to fulfill and everyone will have to do a Duty in their life that will make them feel bad but it doesn't matter, no matter how hard your role is you need to fulfill it regardless of what you personally believe in

    If anyone is interested in learning more just read the Bhagavad Gita "The Gita is set in a narrative framework of a dialogue between Pandava prince Arjuna and his guide and charioteer Krishna (God Born as Human to Keep the Balance of Dharma) At the start of the Dharma Yudhha (righteous war) between Pandavas and Kauravas, Arjuna is filled with moral dilemma and despair about the violence and death the war will cause. He wonders if he should renounce and seeks Krishna's counsel, whose answers and discourse constitute the Bhagavad Gita. Krishna counsels Arjuna to "fulfill his Kshatriya (warrior) duty to uphold the Dharma" through "selfless action" The Krishna–Arjuna dialogue covers a broad range of spiritual topics, touching upon ethical dilemmas and philosophical issues that go far beyond the war Arjuna faces."

    Fyi The Gita is one of the Holy book in Hinduism and if you read it you wont get converted and we do not believe in just 1 god, that is why we have Thousands of gods and every person who follows a different god has different teachings,

    and the book is considered holy book because of its Philosophy and not because it teaches about god, if you want to learn more there is a amazing youtube video made by some western guy who sums up everything in simple words that almost 99% of people and priest fail to do so
    Video by Cogito " What Is Hinduism?"

    very entertaining watch too
     
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    Oook. :D
     
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    So the role of a "businessman" is to potentially "go to jail". Man if you come to the forum to get the answers you want to hear, it ain't good.
     
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    Worst case scenario?

    Legal prosecution.

    FBI domain takeover.

    Blacklisting your name by the US govt, meaning you will be prosecuted by the allies too.

    The worst of all? Bad karma!
     
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  19. Titanlord

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    No role of a businessman is to make money, ya selling fake stuff is bad for the original company but the fake merch is filled everywhere, and i understand if i do something like that i might be at risk to going for jail but i am prepared to take responsibility for my action if i get caught, and in India and i have some connections here, i am sure nay i am certain if i get caught for this i will never go to jail,
     
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    You won’t go to jail

    you’ll get a cease and desist and they’ll invoice you for the amount they think you’ve sold, don’t pay it, ignore the letters, don’t reply to any of them

    if trading standards turn up they’ll give you a warning and might take any stock you have, which is none as your drop shipping, explain you them it comes direct from China and they’ll ask for the suppliers details.

    worst case is your payment provider closes your account
     
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