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Magic Submitter And Ultimate Demon Submitting Too Fast?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by homebasebiz, May 22, 2012.

  1. homebasebiz

    homebasebiz Regular Member

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    I am thinking of subscribing to any of these tools, but paramount to me is their schedule features.

    I know that both of them have scheduling modules.However, I want to know if i can set them to be drip feeding say 10
    contents (submitting them randomly to article directories, web2.0, wikis, videos e.t.c as i have them in my campaign)
    every 24 hours for the next 30 days directly to my money site (not linkweel).

    The reason why i am asking is that somebody have this to say about the schedule feature of magic submitter in another
    forum, particularly its linkwheel feature:


    I will appreciate your contribution.
     
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  2. drywallrob

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    Ultimate Demon has a built in scheduler. I use it all time. Most of my campaigns are dripped out.

    I usually take the total amount of sites that I am submitting to and divide by how many links I want to build per day. So if you want to drip out 5 wikis / bookmarks / web 2.0's per day, you can. It makes setting up long campaigns very easily.

    Then I round up the links after it is finished and check to see if they are indexed. Take those links and run them through a service like backlinksindexer or linklicous.

    I have not used Magic Submitter, so I can't compare the two. I have used SEnuke a lot and UD. UD is so much cheaper, and can submit to more sites.
     
  3. ajithrocksca

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    Both have the ability to schedule and you can control the link velocity. I am using both in tandem, and your scheduler can be tweaked as you need it.
     
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    ultimate demon better and easier to use i tried both ........
     
  5. homebasebiz

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    Do you mean if i have 10 article directories, 10 web 2.0, 10 video sites, 10 wiki sites and 10 bookmarking sites as an instance and i want UD to give me 5 backlinks per day. Taking each of the backlinks from the 5 content and link directly to my money site for the next 10 days. In essence, giving me one way diversify backlinks to the money site. Is that what you are saying? Do you think UD schedule feature can deliver this?



    Thanks.
     
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  6. homebasebiz

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    Any one who has experience with these tools should please contribute to this thread.


    Thanks
     
  7. kendra

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    With Magic Submitter, each type of service you have selected gets added into the scheduler.

    So if you choose 30 Web 2.0s and set them to submit over 3 days, then Magic Submitter will submit 10 sites all all in one go, each day.

    If you wanted to spread the daily submission out, it would be quite easy. Instead of creating 1 Web 2.0 element (with 30 services selected) - you would create 10 Web 2.0 elements with 3 services. You could then schedule each element for a different time of the day.

    A lot of messing about though, and other software may well do it better...
     
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  8. Scritty

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    Drip feeding WEB2 and WIKI is agreat idea - UD does this very well as mentioned above.
    Drip feeding articles is (IMO) a waste of time. The article sites that remain (essp the decent ones - where you would actually WANT your links to be placed) now require the webmaster to approve every submission. This can take anything from a few hours to six weeks.

    With that amount of variation already in the process I can't see the point in adding more.

    WIKI, Bookmark, WEB2 and the rest all publish your submissions almost instantly and I strongly rec using the scheduler (which is simple)
    Articles - well nothing is stopping you - but I wouldn't bother. Just use slow submission and account protection in Ultimate Demon.

    MS is great - but costs more per month and many of the bread and butter sites fail (the article sites are ok, but other bespoke platforms are not maintained well enough) .If you moan you are advised that you can fix them yourself (which you can do as it is a graphical scripting tool). Me - I'd rather just create content and post links than piss about with fixing sites that shoul djust work in a subscription product. And SICK - while being cheap and having a great community, has a GUI like trying to tie your shoelaces up while wearing boxing gloves.

    BTW - double discount for UD through my link below for the next few days or so.

    Scritty
     
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  9. homebasebiz

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    I really respect your product knowledge of Ultimate Demon.I just read that with Magic Submitter one must leave the PC on while the software is ruining a scheduled campaign, i want to know if the same thing is applicable with UD.

    As i really want a system that can deliver my schedule campaign for days as we have it Unique Article Wizard without
    baby sitting the PC or leaving on.
     
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    Ok, will both (Ultimate Demon and Magic Submitter) run my scheduled campaign on VPS while i shut my PC down?

    Any one got the idea?


    Thanks.
     
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    Yes, since your VPS Is always on it doesn't matter if your desktop/laptop is on or off - 2 different computers

     
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    Depends on your vps. Most new vps will allow you to disconnect your pc but will continue to run. But there are many old vps which will log off the moment you close the rdc. You need not worry if you select a good vps (preferably with windows 2008 os)
     
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    :rolleyes: You'd be better off not having joined in the last 24 hours and having a free email address at yahoo dot com that could have been created yesterday. Use an email address from your websites cpanel to add some credibility mate.
     
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    Both results and performers are good but I will suggest you Ultimate Demon because its quicker submission speed, Seamless Submission Process.
     
  16. homebasebiz

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    What is the quality, authority, success rate and stickiness of Web 2.0 sites in Ultimate Demon and Magic Submitter?

    I mean which of the two have an edge in term of web 2.0 sites ?
     
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    The tools doesn't have anything to do with the stickiness really.
    They create profiles - they submit content

    If the profiles are banned or the content deleted - that's down to your writing - not the tools.

    UD is just a darn site faster to use and much better maintained. MS falls between two stools.
    It's not the best dedicated top tier link maker (that's between SENukeX and Ultimate Demon which are both massively better) and it's not the best bot scripter (Ubot, Zennoposter and even Imacros free are all more powerful in terms of features - a LOT more powerful)

    It tries to do too much, and as a result does nothing particularly well. Stuff like the basic sites constantly failing due to lack of support and the scripting tools overall basic manner (it doesn't handle Java and all sorts of stuff very well at all).


    • If you need a bot maker - choose a good Ubot or Zennoposter (or Imacros free)
    • If you need a first tier link maker go for SENukex or Ultimate Demon
    • For other links (deep linking, 2nd/3rd tier or to rank low competition websites) take your pick from GSA Search engine ranker, Scrapejet and No Hands SEO

    1 from each of those lists, with 50 proxes and $30 in captchas a month and you can rank just about any site.

    You may not need a BOT maker for a while. I have several sites ranking number 1 that I've never used bot scripts on, just "off the shelf" tools - there's no real need to buy a BOT maker until you have an actual task you need to automate and no-one else does it. Spending tens of hours coding a bot that just duplicates what a $50 off the shelf tool does anyway is a waste of time - unless you have extremely low "income per hour" expectations.

    If you want quick fix spamming (gets sites ranked, also gets them slapped more) consider Xrumer.

    IMO that is the "Gold" list for SERPS ranking. Most other tools are hybrids/cheap copies or just limited in some way


    Course there are some other great tools NOT for SERPS, that deal with Facebook, Twitter, Pintrest, CL, solving Captchas, checking proxies or whatever, but I'm just talking SERPS here.

    Scritty
     
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    Actually UD (which is much better than senuke) probably cannot upload pictures to web 2.0 sites. It can submit article in html, so you can have pictures embeded from other sites, but it cannot upload pictures to those web 2.0 sites. This is probably pretty important, when it comes to difficult keywords.

    For difficult keyword i xrumer/scrapebox are better than nohands seo, especially if you use 3-5 tier backlinks schemes.
     
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    When People compare Magic Submitter's designer mode to UBot, Zennoposter and IMacros, I don't think that it was the developers intention to make something as advanced as those.

    Magic Submitter's Designer Mode was not made to compete with those tools. It's not built to create bot scripts like going to Google, scraping pages, getting the values, ect.. It was ment to simply add different sites you may find. Register and Submit Content type sites not elaborate scripts. The strength of Magic Submitter is that you can add pretty much any site you want, without having to buy programs like Zennoposter and Ubot. It put its all in one area so it can be scheduled, ect..

    Serious question, is there any Register and Submit type site that MS can NOT automate? I really want to know the answer because all the sites I tried to automate when I was a subscriber worked fine.
     
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    What's ur strategy to rank any website with 1 of each application from eeach of ur lists?


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