Made $30 on two articles today

if you were submitting around 100 articles a day and the average out of $3 usd for 1 article (minus the costs to write the article so its $200 usd) so why do you advertise on your sig that you can make $2000+ a month when infact you could be making $6000 usd a month or am I missing something??

Another note is, how long does it take to do this? I mean I could be doing this when im at uni I suppose but does it really take a lot of my time up?

sorry for the basic questions, im new to this AC :)
 
This is so true, I went a long time with NEVER getting a declined article. I had 1 decline in 30 articles. Then all of the sudden over 2 days I got 4 articles declined for "Not being unique enough, AC is trying to build a unique library of blah blah blah" My writing hadn't changed at all and was just as unique and usual as it has always been.

I made a few tweaks plus spent 2 days just promoting articles in a certain niche I planned to write on again (So I could show them my articles in that specific niche DO perform). After those 2 days I went back to one of my comfortable niches that got declined a few days before and received my highest upfront offer ever breaking $5 finally with only a clout 5 account. I reeived 3 more offers in that same category for $4+ as well over the next day.

So one day your article could be "Not unique enough" simply because your not also promoting your page views. That same article that wasn't worth even $1 is all of the sudden your best paying upfront yet after some minore tweaks and 2 days of solid page view promotion.

I mean it could be a coincidence, but i think not! :D I seriously log everything I do with AC as far as strategy. Almost to the point of obsessing over it. I even build graphs for progress compared to certain strategies over others I have implemented. I try not to spend TOO much time analyzing and not working but some analyzing could really help you see some trends in pay that you might not ever not ice otherwise.

AC is ever evolving so you should be evolving with it. There isn't any "guaranteed" system with them. The only "guarantee" I see is always trying to evolve with them and pay attention to the changes & change with them.

wow that some good ratio of article accepted i have a lot of issues with ac as it declined a lot of my article because they are not unique enough bla bla something like that ,the article should be very targeted to be accepted and yet didn't receive more than 3 dollars
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wow that some good ratio of article accepted i have a lot of issues with ac as it declined a lot of my article because they are not unique enough bla bla something like that ,the article should be very targeted to be accepted and yet didn't receive more than 3 dollars
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All I can say is brush it off and keep tweaking things out. I have a VERY good ratio of accepted articles as does my Fiance. We both have completely different writing styles. It really comes down to a lot of things that have been covered in this thread. I extensively read this thread and took notes. More importantly than that though, I limited the time I did do "reading" and spent time "doing".

Then I started taking notes of every article I wrote, how much it payed me, what it's niche was, and then how well it was doing in page views. I started building graphs to help me visualize my techniques as well. AC is ever evolving and you should be too. If you ran a business would you keep track of your day to day and weekly business techniques and what your ROI was? How your customer flow increased or decreased? What there average purchase amount came out to? I know I sure would.

So I do this with AC. There isn't even anything BlackHat or wrong about it. It's just considered smart business & has really improved my content writing for EVERYTHING. My blogs get such better submissions from me now because my ability to write with SEO practices established has improved so much from my AC experience. I think my business ethics & practice in general has greatly improved.

I have a whiteboard here on the wall in my office, that's about 3 feet wide. We brainstorm idea's and writing strategies daily on it. Niches, article types, etc. Then document the outcome. We usually do 3 day runs on certain ideas & if they seem to be working & graphing in an upward fashion. We scale that particular idea up & bleed it dry then move on.

I haven't found one single niche that I can continually write in, with the same writing techniques, same SEO techniques, linking, etc. that will consistently rise in pay for more than 3 weeks before it starts to either drop or become "Not Unique Enough". Sure I can stay in that niche that's doing well, I just have to adjust my writing techniques.

Treat AC like a business and evolve your writing with the evolution of there company, stay ahead of the curve. I promise if you do that your acceptance ratio's will be great. I know I'm not the only one staying abouve 90%-95% acceptance ratio on my articles. Even if the upfront is only $2.62-$2.85 when they are really bad articles. At least they do get accepted. Getting consistent above $4 offers accepted should be your goal.

I really hope this helped you but any of this info has been added to this thread more than one time in these 26 pages. I will honestly say I think this thread was at 16 pages when I found it and I read EVERY page before even adding to the thread or posting a question.

Honestly the best thing you can do though is "DO" then record what happens, adjust and "DO" again. So many times i've been caught up in planning and reading more than doing and it becomes my downfall. This time around I did things and asked questions later.

I will say miticulously log everything you do though. I log my average page views for each article daily, I log the sites I promote each article on, the date I promoted each, the article I promoted, the url of the page the link is on (if it's a forum post, I make logs of the url's that go directly to the thread I put it in), the date I bumped a thread last, etc.

I log niches and there performance, I log time speant writing on a niche vs ROI, I log EVERYTHING I can and stay super organized. I use a combination of technology and good old pad, pen, and sticky noted. I use a huge dry erase board on my wall as well. There is something about actually "writing" notess sometimes that makes them so much more real and relevant not to mention easier to comprehend and remember.

You wonder why successful companies run very organized and stick to company policies? Because organization; it may not be the key to success... ... ...but it's definitely part of the combination.
 
Hey Red.. What do you use to unfollow people on twitter that aren't following you?
 
Hey Red.. What do you use to unfollow people on twitter that aren't following you?

I know your question is for Red, but i'll help you after doing my own research I found an amazing tool that does it. Go google "Twitter Karma" It will show you everyone you follow who is following you back, & let you mass un-follow everyone who's not following you. The website is amazing, and perfect for what you want to do.

It does take a good 5 min or longer to load all your followers if you have 2000+ people on your list, but all you have to do is hit "check all who aren't following me" & then hit the button that says "mass un-follow" and throughout the next hour you will see your twitter account slowly but surely start un-following all the people who weren't following you.

I run Twitter Karma once a week to keep things clean. :D

Sorry to answer a question geared at RedTide but I discovered this program/website the other day when I was trying to find a good way to unfollow people & truthfully it just takes a few minutes in a google search to find an answer anyways. It's quicker than the forums.

So google "Twitter Karma" it rocks and is easy to use and effective.

Hope that helped my fellow BlackHat friend ;)
 
if you were submitting around 100 articles a day and the average out of $3 usd for 1 article (minus the costs to write the article so its $200 usd) so why do you advertise on your sig that you can make $2000+ a month when infact you could be making $6000 usd a month or am I missing something??

Another note is, how long does it take to do this? I mean I could be doing this when im at uni I suppose but does it really take a lot of my time up?

sorry for the basic questions, im new to this AC :)


The thing is it's really not realistic to be able to submit 100 articles a day or anything near that amount and still keep the quality high enough to get accepted. I do a consistent 40ish articles a day and have it about 75% outsourced and still spend at least 2 hours a day on it. I say $2,000 a month because I don't want to throw crazy amounts out there that aren't realistic. I like to play things like that on the conservative side.

I've made well over $3K amonth but it's because I've paid my dues and have it highly scaled with more than 20 accounts. You can't expect to make more than $100 a day until you have everything put in place with your writers and you're consistently giving AC quality content. You do this with trial and error and learning from AC's upfront offers what you're doing right and wrong.

When you're setting it up it definitely takes time and then becomes less time consuming with the more processes you outsource and by using Danny's AC Submitter. You don't want to start right out with outsourcing things like the content scraping because you won't be able to train your scrapers properly. You have to know for yourself what's working for you personally as far as getting consistently high upfront offers.


@ yuuchi - How are you doing with your total page view ratios vs your total articles submitted? Like I mentioed earlier, it's becoming increasingly important to AC that your total article views are increasing steadily and that you aren't just submitting a high numbers of article without giving back to AC with your page views.


@ AnthraXx and Jon - Like Jon mentioned, I also use Twitter Karma. Basically I use a combination of Hummingbird, Twitter Karma and Hootsuite to manage all of my Twitter accounts. These three tools handle all of my needs pretty much. There's literally 100's of tools out there for Twitter but these three get the job done for me pretty much.

Thanks for helping me out btw Jon...mucho appreciated


Have a great weekend all!

Cheers,

Red
 
Red how well do articles on video game cheats do? I know you said use trial and error but some of us have had a lot of articles rejected and don't want to risk getting account banned to try new ideas... I had a whole batch of articles rejected they were video game reviews.. I received a response something like they only accept sneak previews of very recent video games.. so I was wondering what about game tips/strategies and what not...
 
I hate to have to keep harping on this but this is a perfect example of why everyone should take the time to read this thread and jot down some notes as they go along. You could have saved all those rejections if you had AnthraXx.

We have already talked in length earlier in the thread about the fact that AC doesn't like video game reviews and almost always rejects them. It's seldom that they will even accept pre-release game reviews. Because of this I stay away from that niche altogether including game cheats.
 
I was shocked this morning to wake up and see that they actually reviewed a bunch of articles over this weekend. It's super rare but I guess they wanted to get those page views rolling in.

Anybody else have articles reviewed this weekend?
 
I was shocked this morning to wake up and see that they actually reviewed a bunch of articles over this weekend. It's super rare but I guess they wanted to get those page views rolling in.

Anybody else have articles reviewed this weekend?

My articles were reviewed also. However, I'm not writing much these days since I'm studying to get into a university here.:D:cow_yello
 
I was shocked this morning to wake up and see that they actually reviewed a bunch of articles over this weekend. It's super rare but I guess they wanted to get those page views rolling in.

Anybody else have articles reviewed this weekend?

A "Friend" :::cough cough::: :D I know had a bunch of her articles reviewed this weekend as well shockingly. Not AC's normal behavior for sure. So your not alone RedTide

Nice on both fronts :biggthump

Good luck getting in there Milly

Good luck Milly, I commend you for taking such a valuable leap forward in your life & my and my fiance wish you the best of luck Milly!
 
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Yeah, that's the first time in months I've had reviews done over the weekend. In general, they've also been reviewing things a lot quicker than they had been a few months ago. It's pretty awesome to see so many being reviewed within 1-2 days of submitting. It used to be that 6-8 days was the most common waiting period.
 
My articles were also reviewed.. Red I took your advice and purchased hummingbird... but for some reason when I install i get this error..


No internet connection.
"Hummingbird was not able to verify your license key
Please check that you have an active internet connection (I do)
And your anti virus and firewall is configured to allow hummingbird to connect to the internet ( I don't have an anti virus program )
Exact error: could not connect to the license server to validate licence"


and I have yet to reach the screen that allows me to activate my key...
 
My articles were reviewed also. However, I'm not writing much these days since I'm studying to get into a university here.:D:cow_yello

Wishing you the best in life! Don't worry, you'll get into a great University and will make a lot of friends, will get a great education and will come out wearing a Wise-Master's Hat on top of your beautiful Black Hat! :)
 
@ tamsin - I can't speak for others but I do pretty well with it. If I didn't, I wouldn't even bother. I know JonWrong has been able to support his family with it as well.

@ AnthraXx - I wish I could help with the errors but I didn't run into these issues during my installation. Have you contacted support from the software developer? Also, I would start up a thread in the Social Networking subforum for the most direct advice about any Hummingbird errors. I'm sure some of the Twitter marketers over there should be able to get you hooked up.
 
@ Tamsin: I disagree with what you say about Indians. I also wonder why you people repeatedly go to their doors for your work if they don't produce money for you the way you want it!! Not all Indians are bad, and not the whole of the rest of the world is good either! So don't point to a country when you want to only speak about some individuals. Sorry to say this, but this also speaks about how ignorant you are about putting your own thoughts in writing.

I suppose you're from the US (I am never racial but I would like to put things into proper perspective)! To remind you, US is full of great Indians who are making wonderful AND successful living on all fronts of life. Also, I have been to the US and UK where I have seen many 'natives' speaking their own 'horribly-advanced' version of senseless 'English' -- on second thoughts, it's imaginable, as most of them are educational dropouts. I have also been a part of many online US forums where most of the so-called 'american natives' write absolute rubbish English. So the 'chaff' is everywhere. It is a pity that most of these people wouldn't be able to understand an essay if it is written in proper English.

Sorry again, but it'd be far better if you keep your speech limited to general people only.

Thank you!
 
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Hey a few questions,

1/ With Paypal, whats the deal for all this account freezing crap I've been hearing about? Is it ok to be having money come into a personal paypal account from 7 different AC addresses?

2/ If you're non-US, once your accounts have reached the W9 requirement threshold, can you still take the cash for the page view component (because it'll keep generating profit over the months) or do you just have to cut them lose?
 
So. How many people here are actually finding all the hassle of actually being able to procure passable rewriters worth the time and effort? To wit, how many people here are actually making any profit, timewise as well as moneywise, from this? I haven't seen many posting past a measly couple of dollars or so at best?

I'm not going to elaborate too much but with a two person team working whitehat doing 0 outsourcing BUT working real 8+ hours or more a day 5 days a week & sometimes a few weekend hours I could pay my mortgage, all my utilitie bills, cell phone bill, car insurance, food, etc. Without saying too much my house alone is $1,000.

I wasn't outsourcing anything and I was abiding by AC's TOS. You just have to learn how to work them and i'll say it again. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. You can make AC work for you instead of you working for them if you treat it like a business.

I've done so many different methods of making money online that were easier than AC and paid more but they never lasted. Never. I would definitely call what I make more than pennies though.

You gotta be serious though. Half ass work gets half ass pay. Simple as that.

Hey a few questions,

1/ With Paypal, whats the deal for all this account freezing crap I've been hearing about? Is it ok to be having money come into a personal paypal account from 7 different AC addresses?

2/ If you're non-US, once your accounts have reached the W9 requirement threshold, can you still take the cash for the page view component (because it'll keep generating profit over the months) or do you just have to cut them lose?


If you really read through the thread both of these questions are specifically answered quite a few times actually.

1. No it's not legal to have multiple accounts in there TOS so technically having 7 accounts on 1 paypal can get you banned. This isn't why people have been getting banned lately though. There is a variety of reasons and seldom is it the paypal e-mails issue. As long as you don't bring major attnetion to your accounts they will never look deep enough to notice all of the e-mails go to your one account. The key is to not bring a lot of attention to yourself. Most the bannings lately have been for members being "proven" to be part of this forum and.or a few cases of two accounts on the same IP (even if it's two different people and/or a husband wife team with there own accounts each) Yes, before you say that is dumb. They will seriously ban you for being a member of BHW.com and posting here. I think that is dumb.

2. No you can't keep your page view payouts once you hit W9 verification time & you toss the account. The key to this which has been covered at least 3 times already is to stop posting to the accounts at around $300 & move on. Then let them slowly trickle in the risiduals over time until they eventually cap out at the W9 verification time. At least that way you will collect residuals still on all of the accounts you worked on without having to W9 verify. It's simple to figure out with just a little thinking I thought of this before it was ever discussed or read here. Try reading this whole thread that what I did 2 months ago (when it was 14 pages or so) before I even posted anything. It helps immensely. Not only you, but everyone else and the thread benefits as well.
 
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