Macbook Pro yes/no and why

Windows 8 is still superior than OSX which has a horrible user interface and is sold on devices that are several years outdated. There is no point of buying an apple product besides wanting to lose money by spending more and having less production ability.

I feel sorry for you

Seljo said:

I feel sorry for you

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Why would you feel sorry for a person that wants to save money and have more processing power?

STKMKTFTGRU said:

Why would you feel sorry for a person that wants to save money and have more processing power?

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You just don't get it.

Seljo said:

You just don't get it.

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I do get it, I've been using windows 8.1 for about 10 days now and its even superior to windows 7 which itself was superior to windows xp.

I say go for it. If your running tools you need vmware. And running 2 os's - one for video and one for tools - will cook the shit out of your hard drive. Use ssd with external. For video editing it's great. Most macs now make it difficult for self upgrades, some say it's to save weight and for design, some say it's too charge for more for upgrades when ordering, I believe the later. If your not a mac user stick to pc, it's cheaper in the long run. If you use mac's than you shouldn't be asking this question.

Macbook is ok... but for the same price (or actually a bit less) you can pick up a Surface Pro 3 which absolutely, utterly, and totally destroys the Macbook in performance, functionality, scale of useability, etc. That's my $0.02, at least. I love my Surface

I am using both PC & MAC.

The one and only cons of MAC for me is price when PC has the same even way better spec costs less.
Both could do my jobs well.

Its all personal preference. I prefer to work on macs, but use both windows and macs. I like the OS experience more on a mac. If you are running a tight budget, just get a windows PC. If you can only afford one computer and you want a mac, just put windows on a dual boot on your mac. You will need windows if you use any IM software. With dual boot you have a smooth running mac and windows. This is much smoother than using a virtual installation of windows on a mac or putting mac on a windows.

STKMKTFTGRU said:

Mac doesn't offer any benefits when it comes to video editing or photo editing unless the person is used to, or wants to use the mac programs for video editing and/or photo ediitng. What matters the most for photo and video editing is processor,ram amount and disk speed.

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That's the truth right there.

You can do video / design / sound / video games, on both, mac or pc. It's just that Apple is marketing their products very well and and the word to mouth idea about "absolute need a mac to design or do video edition" is now in people's brain, but it is BS in a way, because you can do the same with a PC aswell. Many video game companies use PC's for 3d rendering etc.

Using a mac doesn't make you a better designer / internet marketer or video editor. Skills and knowledge do.

G0D0VERY0U, you're really just making an argument for using OSX over Windows. You can install OSX on a "PC" too, either native, dual boot or virtual.

Seljo said:

Sorry m8 , but windows 8 is just horseshit. From Win xp all it goes is downwards.

And to DamageX, change your diapers once in a while as your full of shit.

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Oh boy, you sure told me! What am I gonna do now, someone on an Internet forum thinks I'm full of shit!

One thing I really do love about Macbook Pros is the keyboard, never used a keyboard that feels so amazing as a Macbook pro does.

LOL every Mac vs PC discussion:
"Dude you are paying more for inferior hardware!"
"But Windows sucks!"

Seriously, if you dont like Win then get Linux its free (you are already planing to run tools on VPS?). And if dont wanna learn Linux and like the fancy look of OSX then install Hackintosh.

Switched to macs years ago and haven't looked back since. If you like nice things and have the spare cash go for it. If you're concerned about price, hardware upgrades or gaming then it's probably not a good decision.

DamageX said:

G0D0VERY0U, you're really just making an argument for using OSX over Windows. You can install OSX on a "PC" too, either native, dual boot or virtual.

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Well there's a lot of truth to that, but I did bring up some Mac specific things in the initial post. The reduced fatigue with the retina display and keyboard ergonomics for example.

Those are, as far as I'm concerned, the two main points when it comes to sitting in front of a screen for long hours like you do in this business. There are other Mac specific things I like that have little to do with marketing though.

For instance the airdrop file management between my iMac and my Macbook is awesome, but if he's just getting a laptop and doesn't have another Apple product like a iphone or ipad, that wouldn't be something to bring up. Even if the PC had the bluetooth 4.0 hardware I don't know that the feature would work...

The ease of using the airport extreme is also really awesome. It's my own 3tb cloud that works through my home or remotely where ever I have a connection. It's basically cloud storage where I don't have to worry about data security as much because it's a much less attractive target than commercial cloud services and it's a one-time cost. Either way, it only enhances my data availability so that I can do whole system backups regularly and commit some files or media to long term remote storage. Also - not sure how that would work with a PC Hackintosh and if all of the wireless features and speed would be available (do PCs come with 802.11ac yet?)

Additionally there are home entertainment features I like as well that are possible through bluetooth 4.0 - but those may be just as accessible on a PC that also has bt4.0 ... I never really looked at that component of the debate because by that point I was financially invested in Apple ecosystem and really didn't care anymore.

But yes, I'm aware that you can run a Hackintosh... but I'm reserved about knowing or committing to the idea that it would be as fully feature rich simply due to hardware varieties... Compatability isn't a concern for Apple out of the box because they control both the hardware and software sides of the product which is why I'm reserved in that aspect.

Many pcs come with the 802.11ac now, and there is an AirDrop for windows called FileDrop. There are also high dpi screen laptops as well for windows.

G0D0VERY0U said:

Well there's a lot of truth to that, but I did bring up some Mac specific things in the initial post. The reduced fatigue with the retina display and keyboard ergonomics for example.

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You can get those separately though, can't you?

IMO here's what it boils down to, arguments I can actually buy:

- some people prefer OSX over Windows, nothing strange about that
- some people lack the time/knowledge to build their own Hackintosh, so they prefer to pay a premium for having an out-of-the-box one

But the neverending Mac is better than PC debate is retarded. I do love making fun of mactards because, let's face it, most can't even make a valid argument why a Mac is superior to a PC. Most don't even realize that it's not an issue of one being better or worse, it all has to do with preference. "Macs are better" is not an argument LOL.

Anyway, as I already pointed out above, PC's are usually superior, in terms of hardware. However, the above-mentioned two are the VALID arguments I'll buy any day of the week. Bring those into the discussion and I'll agree with you. Don't and I'll bash you to hell and back.

I've used both Windows (like every version since 98SE) and Macs. I currently use Mac because I find them to be more reliable and secure; if you use the computer like a dumba$5 though, then it'll suffer regardless of what you buy. They are beautiful machines and the components are higher quality than in cheaper Windows laptops (I read in PCMag a couple years ago that Macs are actually mid-range when you begin comparing individual components).

I love Macs, BUT I wouldn't get the 15". Get a 13" with Retina and then connect to a larger display when you're home. It's just as powerful for anything 99% of people do anyway. I do heavy graphics and it's a great machine with no hiccups or stuttering.

my $0.02.

Windows is just as secure as mac osx if one actually updates their programs,and uses protection. Even Mac OSX has to use protection and use updates to continue to be secure.

STKMKTFTGRU said:

Windows is just as secure as mac osx if one actually updates their programs,and uses protection. Even Mac OSX has to use protection and use updates to continue to be secure.

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True, but with windows is like trillions security updates per day which either work or fuck up all your os, with mac you get occasionally updates and most of them are related to new hardware support such as cameras printers etc. And best of all if you by any chance destroy your mac and your hard drive survives, you simply put the old drive in your new mac(you can copy it, as well), and everything is back without any hassle.

But I do understand people using windows desktops with the ability to upgrade your PC as long as you like and make expansions etc... Been one of those people since the era of XTs, still like DOS.