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MAC address and stealth ebay/paypal

Discussion in 'Ebay' started by haki_master, Aug 4, 2012.

  1. haki_master

    haki_master Regular Member

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    I have a question about MAC address and stealth ebay/paypal. Can paypal/ebay find you from mac address and how to cover it so they do not see it? I never did anything to cover mac address , i can find it through cmd command line , i use ebay and paypal regularly in stealth mode and i never been linked so far.
     
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  2. Zapdos

    Zapdos Power Member

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    Your MAC address is only retrievable from the local network/computer. They cannot get it over the internet.
     
  3. haki_master

    haki_master Regular Member

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    so there is no need to cover it somehow i guess , another question is it possible for paypal or ebay to call my local network internet provider to retrieve my mac address or anything through my ip which is dynamic?
     
  4. ComputerEngineer

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    they can get it with only java application

    so basically if you are not allowing any java while browsing nope they cant
     
  5. haki_master

    haki_master Regular Member

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    basically i do not keep history in browser and i clean cookies through firefox and ccleaner , is that enough to block any java cookie or application so that they dont get mac address? If they find someones mac address then can they find your exact location , such as street address name etc?
     
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    No, there is no need. Even if ebay did ask for the mac address from your ISP they wouldn't hand it over due to legal implications.


    Browser security will block java applets from doing that in most if not all cases.

    A MAC address is a semi-random string which is based on your hardware. There is nothing personally identifiable in a MAC address.
     
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  7. eskimo111

    eskimo111 Registered Member

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    no u have to block any java applets from loading in the first place from the browser internet options. (if u do that some websites do not let you proceed until you turn it on).
     
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    I'm not sure what you are trying to do, but why not use proxies? It sounds like you are trying to hide your IP.

    I will tell you though, if you owe PayPal money on one account and want to create a new one, be sure to NEVER attempt to log into that other account on the same PC. I did that and they tied the two together and shut down my good account until I paid the balance on the other.
     
  9. haki_master

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    The matter here is not hiding my ip, that's the easy stuff as i have dynamic ip which means if i restart my router i get every time new ip.The issue was if they can get my MAC address and track me to my real address , but @ Zapdos covered all my inquires in this thread so i thank him for that.
    Proxies won't do with ebay/paypal , they will detect them and ban you , vps is another story though which i did not try by the way so far.
    Yea i owe money to those bloody suckers on stealth account though because buyer was supposed to return the item before paypal release him refund , he did not and paypal gave him refund so i do not care im not paying them for their stupidity.If you login from the same pc user to 2 paypal accounts its risky , its better to use separate user cp for each paypal/ebay account.Until now i have not been linked to any of my other paypal stealth accounts and i use all stealth techniques to remain under the radar.
     
  10. cjratnagiri

    cjratnagiri Newbie

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    You can use a vps for better stealth. No one can detect you that way. And also the ip problem is solved!!
     
  11. Amsterdammer

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    You can change your MAC in Windows but it is a hassle and buggy, just use any linux distribution and download MacChanger. Very easy, but not needed for what you want, also you would need to change that MAC at every bootup.
    When it comes to identifying you that MAC is the least of your problems though.

    You want to achieve stealth.
    For that you change your OS as it talks way too much.
    Think about it, when you visit a page, your OS, browser, screen resolution, browser history, computer name, installed plugins are all visible, without even allowing JavaScript. All that and more, for anybody you connect to and no way to stop it.
    If you include JavaScript, I can follow your mouse across the screen, see where you click and what you type amongst other things...

    So, don't try and alter your computer, change it completely!
    The easiest way is installing another OS to boot from, next to your Windows installation of course. This would of course only cover 1 stealth account.

    Also, use proxies and check them at whatismyip or something like that.
    A proxy does not by definition hide you IP address. Not all anonymous proxies hide the fact they are proxies but a high anonymous does. Steer away from free high anonymous proxies with keep-alive feature though. If it is too good to be true...

    I hope this helps. :)
     
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  12. shaddelick

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    Can they do it, most likely yes they can. Do they do it? i dont think so, they arent banning me with my accounts, at least not yet
     
  13. B. Friendly

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    Not true. Java will hand over your MAC address anytime it's asked.
     
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    They probably can, but they don't. I have many accounts, never been linked via MAC.
    Just keep on the ball as they may try it in the future
     
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    mac addresses are extremely hard to obtain if you are not withing one network. With web services that makes it almost impossible. a linux solution would be macchanger but make sure you enter a valid mac cause if someone sees 00:00:00:00:00:11 it's obvious it has been manipulated. I would suggest you lookup some mac address on google and check if it can be associated with a manufacturer. if it can-that's your game.
     
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    As stated a few times in this thread already. MAC addresses are hard to obtain.
    Really the only reason to change your MAC address is just by a few digits so
    you generate a new IP Address.

    RedClover
     
  17. B. Friendly

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    Here's proof:
    http://www.mkyong.com/java/how-to-get-mac-address-in-java/

    It's a simple Java script. If Java script will do it, anything will do it. Any kind of custom code you can't possibly imagine will deliver your MAC address anytime anyone that has the ability to ask for it wants it. It's like a $3.00 whore, only they don't have to pay the $3.00. It's free. It's available. It's right there, just waiting for the right person to come along and ask for it. Easy. Simple. Cheap. Free, even. Free MAC Address, just there for the asking. It would be less obvious if you wrote your MAC Address in 6" letters and wore them on your forehead, like a sign. You could even decorate that MAC Address sign on your forehead with Christmas Tree lights, and even then it would be less obvious than the availability of your MAC address to anyone that wants it online. Just there, waiting to hand it over to anyone that asks. Like a free whore, as I said earlier. Your computer is a free whore, and hands out your MAC address to just anyone.

    Have you all got this yet, or do I need to continue?

    Pay attention, kiddies. This is the only person in the whole thread that knows anything. Every single other person is wrong in some way or another. I deleted most of my post because it wasn't "friendly" enough. Just too much wrongness in this thread for me to handle; like a loud discussion on the short bus, there are too many 'tards and not enough time.
     
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    http://www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Internet_Email/Web_Browsers/Firefox/Q_24254045.html

     
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    http://www.eggheadcafe.com/community/visual-studio/7/10068390/mac-address-using-browser.aspx

    Visual Studio .NET - Mac Address using browser
     
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    http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_system/network/article.php/c10887/Reliably-Retrieve-MAC-Addresses-with-VB.htm