1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Long tailed keywords SEO question

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by KingofGreen, Sep 9, 2013.

  1. KingofGreen

    KingofGreen Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2011
    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    31
    So I am obviously interested in ranking for long tailed keywords for my site but I can't find any information about whether or not to specify these long keywords specifically. It just looks spammy to me trying to put every variation in my meta descriptions.

    Say you were trying to rank:
    American Bulldog Puppies for Sale

    What would you specify as your keywords?

    Just; American Bulldog, Puppies, For Sale

    Or go all out;
    American Bulldog Puppies for Sale, Bulldog Puppies for Sale, Puppies for Sale, American Bulldog, Puppies, For Sale, etc.

    Thanks in advance for the help fam. ;)
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  2. bartosimpsonio

    bartosimpsonio Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2013
    Messages:
    8,896
    Likes Received:
    7,495
    Occupation:
    ZLinky2Buy SEO Services
    Location:
    ⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩
    Home Page:
    There's this thing called latent semantic indexing. Basically it's a fancy name for the linking of concepts. You say puppy and the search engine knows that a puppy is a small dog. If someone searches for small dog, and the only result was about a puppy, it'd render your result there. Just like matt cutts ranks for payday loans, we all know he's a spammer and he's building a career for when google dumps him.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  3. gullsinn

    gullsinn Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    2,429
    Likes Received:
    2,210
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Jobless :D
    Location:
    Graveyard
    Home Page:
    Op the below keywords can be your long tail keywords:

    Code:
    american bulldog breeders
    american bulldog puppies for sale in canada
    english bulldog puppies for sale
    american bulldog dogs care
    american bulldog rescue
    american bulldog puppies adoption
    pets home american bulldog
    american bulldog puppies england
    
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  4. Endire

    Endire Elite Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,756
    Likes Received:
    1,061
    Gender:
    Male
    Kingofgreen,

    Gullsin has a good list. You should also keep in mind that its more important to make whatever content you have on the page useful and something that people like. Include your words but don't bend over backwards trying to fit them all in. Make a point to use similar words in your text that aren't necessarily your target keywords.

    Best,

    Shawn
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  5. KingofGreen

    KingofGreen Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2011
    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    31
    So would I specify in my meta description all these long tailed keywords or rely on google to link together the concepts? I want google to consider me for these but I have been told too many keywords is bad and to keep it under 3 per page, which is impossible if I want to use all my variations.

    And excellent info guys. Ill be sure to go through my articles and re-evaluate my LSI keywords.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2013
  6. bartosimpsonio

    bartosimpsonio Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2013
    Messages:
    8,896
    Likes Received:
    7,495
    Occupation:
    ZLinky2Buy SEO Services
    Location:
    ⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩
    Home Page:
    That's old school SEO right there.... How do you link a website to semantic meanings?
     
  7. accord96

    accord96 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2013
    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    13
    If you want to rank for longtails you will also want to have information related to your topic.

    The easiest way to think about it is Starbucks, when people talk about starbucks it is very rare that they have something like coffee in seattle, or best coffee shop ever in their anchor text etc.

    But Starbucks can rank for those because google understands what the people are talking about around a link that would usually just say Starbucks. It can determine that Starbucks = Coffee, even if someone doesn't have Starbucks makes coffee as their anchor.

    So for this attempt to rank this is what i would do:
    Get the kw you are trying to rank for. Get, or type out, 5 pages of content for them.
    Register some 2.0 properties, wordpress, blogspot, tumblr, etc and make them with the long tail you are targeting in there. Because each blog will be about something specific you will be writing about it, and the lsi will understand that even if you are writing about say "american bulldog puppies" it is also about american bulldogs. Sprinkle in some varied anchor text to the other properties and you have a cheap little link wheel.

    Longtails are no different than what you know about seo already, it is really just putting in the work.

    So for a direct answer to your question, you don't need to put "puppies american bulldogs" and "american bulldog puppies" in your meta or title as google already knows the users intent when they enter those two phrases. Make sure your money pages are setup correctly and do the appropriate off page seo and you will rank for those terms.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  8. KingofGreen

    KingofGreen Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2011
    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    31
    Absolute GOLD! Thanks Accord96. Don't mind putting in the work as long as I have a way to do what needs done. Anyways, getting back to it...:chatting:
     
  9. nanavlad

    nanavlad Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2009
    Messages:
    2,420
    Likes Received:
    892
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    SEO Consultant
    Location:
    Proxy Central
    Dont keyword stuff your meta tags
    use 3 max

    its not necessary to put all the exact keywords in the article.
    Just make it flow and google will get the point,