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Linkwheels or Angela backlinks?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by madarcu, Nov 26, 2009.

  1. madarcu

    madarcu Newbie

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    I have a question about which is technique is better for backlinks. I know that both are good, but I just need one of them to go with in the start. I am newbie no-native english speaker so please excuse my newbie question and english.
     
  2. soulfly

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    Linkwheels.

    There is a good post on this. Hope this helps.
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    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/member-downloads/66543-get-linkwheel.html
     
  3. madarcu

    madarcu Newbie

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    I have read that thread but it seems it doesn't have this information..or may I have overlooked something?
     
  4. soulfly

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    the post got fair enough info to start it. Well, do some advanced search with term "linkwheel" in this forum; hopefully you will find some good posts.
     
  5. madarcu

    madarcu Newbie

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    Thank you! I know how to create a linkwheel and stuff, but I am asking if building a linkwheel with 10 properties with unique keyworded articles pointing to money page is better in terms of ranking than 150 Angela and Paul backlinks pointing to the same money page? I am supposing that both techniques are done like the book with ping, rss and social bookmarking.
     
  6. Ninjutsu

    Ninjutsu Regular Member

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    Why not do both? Don't over complicate simple things like this. Just do both and get the best results. :D
     
  7. vlerian

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    Actually, you can make linkwheel scheme using A&P profile links. Don't just blast your links on those profiles, create 1 paragraph for each link, if you want to place 2 links there simply create two paragraphs, related to your site topic and place your links there (use spun articles if you can). It will increase the "relevant value" of your links. Then creat a short sentence to put a link to your next profile using relevant anchor text to increase the "juice". You now have a linkwheel on A&P profile links.

    If you still have time on your hands (or on your workers hands), create hundreds of forum profiles (search on this forum there's a book about it, can't remember the name, blackbelt or something), then place about 3 links (cuase forums have characters limit on their sig) on the signature to your A&P profiles. Use proper anchor texts as well. You can make a linkwheel on this forum profiles as well.
     
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  8. Micallef

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    I recommend this distribution of your resources:

    70% - High quality linkspam (comments, wikis etc)

    20% - Web 2.0 support networks (may or may not be a linkwheel)

    10% - A & P backlinks from authority sites
     
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  9. host32

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    Can you tell us pleas what do you mean exactly with teh first one, the 70% ?


    btw, i tried the nov links from angela and i'm in the first spot for my keyword since then, the angela backlinks packes works but the more you mix it with other link sources the better, personally i did it a long with articles to ezine and videos and some forum posts,

    Cheers!
     
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    nimbus49 Elite Member

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    I agree with Micallef, and throw in some good ezine articles as well.
     
  11. Blueprint

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    But in this thread:

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    You mention nofollow links to be worthless, yet link spam and commenting (especially commenting) is 90% nofollow across the entire web, the ones that are follow are spammed to hell. I agree with ur % however if you believe that nofollow is useless why recommend that method?

    Just curious.
     
  12. Micallef

    Micallef Supreme Member

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    The basic answer is that I know how to find good ******** links in abundance. I rarely come across nofollow while doing my rounds, as it were.

    Also, leaving your link on a spammed page is not the end of the world. It all depends on your money site. If you're going semi white hat, then you might restrict it to pristine PR 5-7 pages. These are hard to find but they are out there, trust me. However, if you just want to blast a zimbio page to the top in the short/medium term, then using heavily spammed pages is no problem.
     
  13. Abstroose

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    I couldn't have said it better than Micallef. In my opinion the most effective (and important) method is building a network of Web 2.0 profiles and properties. Blast these properties, build backlinks to them too.
     
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    I will agree with Micaleff but you should give priority to wheels since they get indexed ASP & the best thing they really get flagged as opposed to normal links.
     
  15. muchacho

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    Agreed. Blast the link properties - not your money site. All links to money site should be completely 100% whitehat in my opinion.

    If one of your web 2.0 pages gets slapped/deindexed/sandboxed for whatever reason, you won't have lost the money site - web 2.0 pages are 10 a penny, so you can afford to risk going black/grey hat with these.

    - I prefer articles to link to money site.
    - Angela/Paul Backlinks and other types of blog commenting etc to the web 2.0 pages.
     
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  16. Micallef

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    Depends on the nature of the money site. I have several of my own domains kicking ass in the serps. They're powered completely by blatant comment spam. I know they could be hit at any time but I have a lot of money sites so it doesn't matter.

    I have always had trouble seeing how whitehat links are meant to work. How can you get enough of them to be number 1 in a matter of 3 months?
     
  17. muchacho

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    Well it's only WH for the actual website - but yes it all depends on the worth of that site it has. If you have lots of sites and some aren't bringing in much revenue, then going the BH route on it might be worth a shot.

    As for getting enough in 3 months, I think if you spam the web 2.0 pages enough, the link juice they get, will be passed onto your money site anyway. They may also be ranked high to 'presell' your main website (i.e articles). If you spam an article and it ranks 1st in Google, then your whitehat site will get traffic anyway.
     
  18. soulfly

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    Few renowned members said that linkwheel doesn't work anymore. :(
     
  19. letusgo

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    So you give up this method simply by listening to others? Come on, man.
     
  20. muchacho

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    My advice?

    Forget the bloody linkwheels ... a link wheel is closing the loop which IMO has no future... Google will notice it and give you a mighty good slapping.

    Make sure your linking looks genuine... it's really the best method.