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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by xboxps3wow, Mar 4, 2010.

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  1. xboxps3wow

    xboxps3wow Power Member

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    So, my site was ranking 2nd for my main keyword for the past few months. 2-3 weeks ago i thought i would make a nice little linkwheel with my blogs so that i might get 1st in google. Today, my site is 4th... :( Could this linkwheel be the reason? And if i change the links will i go back up?
     
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    I had linkwheel done and I honestly believe it is totally hurting my serps. I am no expert but seems my site will start climbing and then google detects that a linkwheel has been done and pushes me down.
     
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    Do you guys think my rankings will go back if i remove few links? (between my blogs that link to my main site)
     
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    moonstarers Newbie

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    It depends. But eventually, it will benefit you if you update the blogs often with good content.

    Its just a google dance, don't worry about it.

    Go for good articles and you'll be back and better off
     
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    How were you making your link wheels: Were you using senuke or another software? Did you ping and bookmark your link wheel right afterwords or did you wait a few days? Did you use unique content or spun?

    All these things play a huge rule in the link wheel one small mistake and it could be bad news for your rankings.

    If you are using spun articles this will solve your problem:
    http://senuke.com/videos/advanced_spinning/advanced%20spinning%20strategies.html
     
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    platinvm is right ...

    One method is to write at least 50 words yourself in each article you spin.

    Its not difficult for 50 words. Just randomly write an introduction to the article or write about yourself as an author, etc.

    So every article will be different as seen by google.
     
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    Here is how my linkwheel setup.
    I have a main 'money' site.
    I also have 5 autoblogs (i edit the articles a bit before posting, blogs are about 1 months old). The blogs link to my main site and to each other.
    Then i have a couple of articles, hubpages, etc linking to my main site, blogs and to each other. (most of there pages have very similar content)

    Thats how it is set up. What am i doing wrong?
    Thanks for any help :)
     
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    c0ntenth|ef Power Member

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    it could be the sources of your linkwheel if suddenly there are links all from blogs to your site the SE's might catch on to it.
     
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    Im not sure what you mean exactly.
    Are you saying its bad because i got so many links at once? It's only about 15 new links..
     
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    When you say autoblogs I am guessing you mean you own the autoblog and you host it yourself?

    Hosting your own link wheel is not called a link wheel its called a mininet and mininets are outdated and do not work. Try building your link wheel on web 2.0 properties like squidoo, blogger, blog...etc
     
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    Oh :( damm... i guess im late the party
    And yes i do host them myself.
    My web 2.0 properties link to autoblogs and to my website. Should i delete the links that point to my autoblogs and just keep the ones that point to the main site?
     
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    immediate penalty for blogs linking each other on the same ip address ...
     
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    u can still build mininets but they gotta be anonymous and link wheel should be random not just one way linking in a circular fashion make it look natural
     
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    oh, and is it still a mininet if my main website is NOT hosted on the same host as the autoblogs?
     
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    The whole point of using a link wheel is to use web 2.0 sites because Google likes these sites.

    You are just feeding off of the authority of these sites.

    Linking your own sites, even across separate IPs, will not really be much help.
     
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    Got a question, my sites got about 55k different restaurants each on a different url, could the link wheel work for each and boost the overall PR of my site if ones created for each different url, im not making money off the vistor, just need traffic to boost popularity.
     
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    This could also happen because your competitor now optimize their website. Have more backlinks than yours, more authority site linking to them, and so on.. and so on..
     
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    My competitor has less than 200 links and most are from youtube vids. I have over 5000.
     
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    I'm not sure that's true.

    There's a guy in my industry whose competing for thousands of different keywords, many of which are extremely competitive. The keywords are unrelated but part of the same umbrella market. He ranks in the top 5 for every keyword. For some of the more competitive ones he has 7000 backlinks. Now 2000 of those comes from interlinking his various websites. These sites are all his, it's obvious, because they use the same design, same everything except they target a different keyword and have different content. For some of the less competitive keywords he simply interlinks his 2000 or so properties and that's it. There's no other backlink sources and he again, ranks top 5.

    Most of his link juice is coming from his interlinking of his sites. Now this guy obviously has huge resources because each of these properties require at least weekly updates.
     
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    I'm sire his sites are seen as authority sites by Google.

    Considering the amount and size you listed, then he probably has some good PR, good domain age, good content, a shit load of backlinks. etc, so Google loves his sites for this.

    In this case, interlinking can be good, but if your sites are not seen as authority sites in Google's eyes, it's better to use web 2.0 properties.