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Linking directly to the payment page - Does it work?

Discussion in 'Clickbank' started by Bross, Jun 3, 2010.

  1. Bross

    Bross Senior Member

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    Hey..

    I decided to fight all the scamer vendors on clickbank..
    I want to ask what happens If I link directly to the payment pages of the vendor..?

    Will the customer get his access fully?

    I don't want my visitors to give these scamers their email address.

    Please advise..



    Thanks.
     
  2. pucky

    pucky Junior Member

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    That depends but why dont you do your testing? Iv seen tons of direct links to clickbank products and those ads continue to run in the SEARCH GOV RECORDS niche. So something must be working for them if they are DLinking. But not always. This is why you should be testing for without it your just spinning your wheels wondering.
     
  3. tgrpublishing

    tgrpublishing Newbie

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    Yes you can link directly to the payment page, but be prepared for higher refund & chargeback rates from confused customers who think they've bought something from someone else by mistake.

    But to be honest, why are you promoting something you think is run by a "scamer" ?
     
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    ultimategamechain Power Member

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    If you think that conversion rate of that product is low then move on to the next. Its a marketing strategy to get emails so cant really take that out.
     
  5. Bross

    Bross Senior Member

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    Scammer to me = taking my leads email address and spamming them with other offers. not to mention redirecting them back using their links..

    I've seen a big Vendor doing this recently.. with a very good Gravity.
     
  6. RiskFree

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    i wonder which big vendor that could be.
     
  7. Le4oy

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    ye it works.
     
  8. OTrap

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    I know that, at one time, you could do this by typing:

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    http://PRODUCTNUMBER.AFFILIATEID_VENDORID.pay.clickbank.net/
    However, when I try this, and I check the affiliate ID at the bottom, I get "affiliate=inputname".

    How can this be fixed?
     
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  9. gonzomcribbinz

    gonzomcribbinz Regular Member

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    You're saying that just because a vendor collects emails on the sales page, he's a "scammer?" You do realize that unless the visitor revisits under a different hoplink, the sale is still yours for 30 days, right? So unless the autoresponder is redirecting that traffic through a different hoplink and not through a direct link, the 30 day cookie will still be set for your hoplink and you will still get the sale.

    Now, if he's sending them through a different hoplink, that's another story. It would be messed up. But just because a vendor is collecting email addresses and following up via autoresponder doesn't mean he's scamming - it means that he's actually helping retain your potential visitors which will still give you the sale (up to 30 days out) - IF he's sending them back to the page using a direct link.

    At any rate, yes you can definitely direct link to the checkout page but, as you already know, you'd have to rely on the sales copy of your pre-sales page 100%. Not always a bad thing if the vendor's page sucks. Or hell, just copy their entire site and put it on your pre-sell page. Some vendors may balk at this idea and some would be ok with it, but either way, it's hard to say if they'd ever even find out.
     
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  10. GreyWolf

    GreyWolf Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he's talking about.

    If the vendor just included a link back to the salespage then the cookie for your referal would still be intact. The vendor will get his cut and the affiliate will get his, but if the email contains the vendors own hoplink then the affiates cookie is overwritten and the vendor will get the full cut.

    I think it's probably not a common practice since it's a good way to lose your affiliates. In many cases it's probably just a matter of the webmaster not thinking about it when he writes up the emails, but I imagine it's intentional more often than we'd like as well.

    The suggestion made above about testing all the different parts of the sales process out is the best idea. If you find that an autoresponder is sending out emails with a vendors hoplink then it might even be worth contacting the vendor. It could be he doesn't realize it and you notifying him about it could get him to change it. If not then you know you need to find a different product.
     
  11. OTrap

    OTrap Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Your last scenario is what I'm trying, but the affiliate tag at the bottom of the checkout page still doesn't say my ID.
    Posted via Mobile Device
     
  12. GreyWolf

    GreyWolf Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    Here's an answer I gave in another thread that explains the right way to do it.
     
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  13. OTrap

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    Hmm ... is the product name typically just what they name it on the payment page, or is that something else?
     
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    Nevermind. I just tried this without the product name and it worked!
     
  15. shayman

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    Couldn't agree more. I've tried both methods and over the period of a month my sales were better going via the vendors page.
     
  16. Bross

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    Of course my friend.
    I have no problems generating leads for vendors as long as they are "loyal" to my cookies.

    Too bad that 80% of clickbank vendors just hit the jackpot on affiliates back, emailing with different hop links.

    The worst new thing I discovered was some punk (dudeihatemyjob.com) offers the courrse for FREEEEEEEE if I join another scammer's program through his link (confidentialconversions.com).

    I did relate to re-linking using their affiliate links..


     
  17. Bross

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    Legitonlinejobs.com
    Homejobgroup.com (The worst).

    And 50 others I have...

    Now, to be honest; I am not a clickbank junkie. I only trial some clickbank stuff now and then. I have had success and I decided to gear up..
    Then I researched and noticed how many vendors just steal traffic.

    Worse thing, I talked to clickbank about it... we exchanged a few emails.
    Basically what they said was: "We will talk to the vendor about it".

    And that's it... No suspension, no changes (3-4 months after).
    So I basically dumped clickbank and got back to what I know best - REAL affiliate marketing to real affiliate programs.

    Clickbank is great as a vendor, you can basically do anything you like.. They won't do any harm to you..

    I keep my loyalty to those who respect me.
    And to be honest, the way I go into affiliate marketing; $30 per sale is not what I will spend my time on... But that's my approach as of now.. I respect everyone's approach to any marketing effort.




     
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  18. OTrap

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    It's funny you mention this, because the same guy behind this site is also behind a site that Clickbank affiliates LOVED to promote for awhile (and it still doesn't convert too badly).

    And that's fair. There are many of us who can do this and make a hefty living from it. I have a list of over 30K legit subscribers who are proven to buy in the $40-70 price range. Thus, if I'm making $30-47 per sale, but making nine to ten sales a day, it works for me quite nicely. For others, like yourself, it might not.