( LinkBuilding 2021) Does this method work?

tazarbm said:

that's what I was addressing. And needing money is not the problem because everything costs money nowadays. But to rank for even medium competition keywords is helluva expensive, I'm not even mentioning the high competition keywords which are only reserved to hackers or billionaires.

I did keyword research by the book 1 month ago to find a keyword for one of my authority websites (in the education niche), and even though the website is clean (no spammy backlinks, no duplicate / plagiarized content, 1 year old domain too, etc) and the keyword research has been done - like I said - by the book, as soon as the article that I've written on the keyword that I found after extensive keyword research got indexed a week ago it's been lingering around pages 9-10 of the SERPs. And this is a keyword that had most untargeted pages in the top 10, most of those URLs have barely had any content on them as well, most of them also had no backlinks either, half of them have not even been topically-relevant websites (they've been quora, reddit, and 2 forums), etc.

So, I found this keyword that should have had a -100 keyword difficulty (yes, MINUS 100) by all of the rules of keyword research and yet, my high quality, authoritative website can't break into top 10 for the easiest keyword the world has ever seen, without a single backlink to that URL.

If this type of keyword can't rank without backlinks anymore, I don't even want to count the money needed to pay for backlinks to rank medium competition keywords. So, yes, of course you need money to build high quality backlinks, which is exactly what I was addressing.

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Do you suggest using the so called indexers like one hour indexer etc? They look spammy to be honest. Do you use indexers?

Really good Black hat linking strategy but therefore Do some social shares and Some white hat techniques too ! You would be good Benefit !

Yeah, tier link building still works great.

bb802123 said:

But not sure if it is enough for only 200 T1 links because my site is a marketplace with thousands of products and hundreds of categories. In order to rank for those categories, only 200 T1 links to my money site's subfolders will simply not enough right?

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You don't want to blast hundreds of links at once to your money site. It's better to start slow and speed up later. You can increase this number month after month, but you should initially build only a few links. Moreover, it will have a negative effect if you build thousands of links at once and suddenly stop link building for any reason.

tazarbm said:

that's what I was addressing. And needing money is not the problem because everything costs money nowadays. But to rank for even medium competition keywords is helluva expensive, I'm not even mentioning the high competition keywords which are only reserved to hackers or billionaires.

I did keyword research by the book 1 month ago to find a keyword for one of my authority websites (in the education niche), and even though the website is clean (no spammy backlinks, no duplicate / plagiarized content, 1 year old domain too, etc) and the keyword research has been done - like I said - by the book, as soon as the article that I've written on the keyword that I found after extensive keyword research got indexed a week ago it's been lingering around pages 9-10 of the SERPs. And this is a keyword that had most untargeted pages in the top 10, most of those URLs have barely had any content on them as well, most of them also had no backlinks either, half of them have not even been topically-relevant websites (they've been quora, reddit, and 2 forums), etc.

So, I found this keyword that should have had a -100 keyword difficulty (yes, MINUS 100) by all of the rules of keyword research and yet, my high quality, authoritative website can't break into top 10 for the easiest keyword the world has ever seen, without a single backlink to that URL.

If this type of keyword can't rank without backlinks anymore, I don't even want to count the money needed to pay for backlinks to rank medium competition keywords. So, yes, of course you need money to build high quality backlinks, which is exactly what I was addressing.

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Then you must have done so many things wrong if you cant rank extremely low comp keywords on your so called authority site.

There are so many factors that come into play when ranking on Google. Its not just about backlinks.

-Whats your website's bounce rate on average? This is important because if the BR is high, Google will regard your website as a site with poor user experience, hence articles will rank poorly.

-How do you structure your website? Is it done based on best on-page seo practice?

-Hows the speed of your website? Poor website speed = poor user experience in the eyes of Google.

-did you add semantically related keywords in your articles for topical relevance?
Topical relevance is a ranking factor that Google crawlers use to determine how relevant your page is to user search terms and search intent

I dont know many other attributes of your website so I cant say for sure whats wrong with it.

bb802123 said:

Do you suggest using the so called indexers like one hour indexer etc? They look spammy to be honest. Do you use indexers?

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use them, but they won't make much of a difference. No indexer that I know of works well anymore so... as Jews use to say: "just like it won't help, likewise it won't hurt"

msyaz said:

Then you must have done so many things wrong if you cant rank extremely low comp keywords on your so called authority site

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I may have done one thing wrong (I rarely care about SEO-optimizing my sites by the book), but I've definitely not done "so many things" wrong.

As for that low competition keyword, I begin to doubt that it's low competition. A low competition keyword - in my mind - is one that you rank for without even creating content. Just publish a page / post on your site with the keyword in the title of the page and voila, you rank #1 for that keyword! That's what low competition keywords should be like. I suspect that Ahfres KD score is skewed because the keyword I've gone after had a KD score of 0 and yet, it doesn't rank. And yes, I also did my due diligence about this keyword. Something's fishy here...

msyaz said:

There are so many factors that come into play when ranking on Google. Its not just about backlinks

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wrong! Only money or hacking comes into play. Everything else is smoke and mirrors. 3-4 months ago I did some keyword research in the health & fitness niche, I checked about 15-20 different keywords that I wanted to rank for and the top 5 spots in google for ALL those keywords have been taken by websites breaking all rules of SEO. Most of the websites have been big brands or known websites in general (Cosmopolitan for example), but even the lesser known ones have been full of spam and non-optimized content that there's only one explanation for their constant rankings: black hat SEO or paying google lots of money through google ads to stay up top.

All those websites were having only ads about the fold, affiliate links everywhere (some of those links have not even been cloaked lol), 2-3 more popus opening up after I closed the initial one, 2 videos running in the background at the same time that I couldn't even scroll down to the content because I was being bombarded with videos in my face, one website was even ranking constantly on spots 5-6 for all of those keywords with broken URLs (each time I clicked on those URLs I got a "site can't be reached" page), and so on.

So, please, don't tell me that google values site speed, user experience, Core Web Vitals and other crap like that so much because it's not true. I may be not an expert SEOer (actually, I never claimed that I am), but I've done SEO for 12 years and I've run my tests to know what a whore google is. And they are a whore with most of my sites, just because I'm not genius enough to hack their algo, or because I don't have millions to pour into their greedy pockets each month,

msyaz said:

-Whats your website's bounce rate on average? This is important because if the BR is high, Google will regard your website as a site with poor user experience, hence articles will rank poorly.

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I don't know, nor do I care about it. My site is pretty, loads decently fast, and offers quality (unique, too) content, so if visitors land on my website they should have no problem loving my website. It's too pretty and too catchy, so bounce rate and other meaningless metrics shouldn't matter.

But yes, I agree with you that BR is important for google because google is too imbecile to figure out what's quality and what's garbage. Sadly, you are right. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna do anything about it. I'd rather wait (50 years from now if I have to) until Google starts thinking like me and starts loving me and my websites for how pretty and legitimate they are. And no, I'm not making fun of you. I do think like that... many times

msyaz said:

-How do you structure your website? Is it done based on best on-page seo practice?

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I don't follow any schema or other silly "practices" that google invents to keep the little guys like me out of their rankings. I always build and structure my websites based on common sense and my own personal taste and if I - as a user - find my own websites valuable and pretty so should other users. And that's all that should matter for google since they love bragging about user experience.

msyaz said:

-Hows the speed of your website? Poor website speed = poor user experience in the eyes of Google

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I didn't check, but it loads within 2-3 seconds and that's good enough. I'm not trying to win any race with google's servers, so the speed is fine if the content is good. And it's good, but google can't figure this out because they refuse to give me the delicious traffic because my website's speed or other idiotic metrics they invent is preventing them from seeing my website as legitimate. Either this, or I don't pay them millions of dollars (most likely this)

msyaz said:

-did you add semantically related keywords in your articles for topical relevance?

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Of course. This is actually one of the few SEO tricks I still use when I create content on my own, despite of some SEO experts claiming that google doesn't care about this anymore.

But anyway, this particular article that I'm talking about has been created following Frase's instructions, so it's pretty well SEO optimized. And again, the content is 100% unique, high quality and highly relevant to users intent. So, it should rank and make me millionaire over night (just kidding this time ), but... quora and few other pages without content apparently offer a much better user experience than my highly researched, perfectly-optimized content So, there's google for you!

msyaz said:

Topical relevance is a ranking factor that Google crawlers use to determine how relevant your page is to user search terms and search intent

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Mate, my entire website is about education, so the topical relevance is there

msyaz said:

I dont know many other attributes of your website so I cant say for sure whats wrong with it

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I know. And don't worry, I've not asked for your help, I was just posting 1) out of frustration and 2) to draw your attention to the fact that SEO is simple indeed when you're rich. But, as a webmaster without deep pockets you have to abide by all sorts of idiotic rules that google invents.

Anyway.... rant over....

Peace!

Starblazer said:

You don't want to blast hundreds of links at once to your money site. It's better to start slow and speed up later. You can increase this number month after month, but you should initially build only a few links. Moreover, it will have a negative effect if you build thousands of links at once and suddenly stop link building for any reason.

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Indeed, it will be more natural.

But for indexer, most of the indexers out there seems spammy, it maybe a group scam... But it seems that indexers work for your case? (for tier 3 links)

bb802123 said:

Indeed, it will be more natural.

But for indexer, most of the indexers out there seems spammy, it maybe a group scam... But it seems that indexers work for your case? (for tier 3 links)

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Indexers used to work but most of them stopped working. Some of them are coming up with new strategies, but Google is stubborn to crawl any new sites. The most difficult part of your project will be indexing Tier-3 links.

msyaz said:

A guy who makes at least a million dollars in profit per year told me that SEO is not complicated.

He said just focus on building high quality T1 backlinks and make sure the sites linking to you have real traffic and I mean real organic traffic, not botted traffic.

You dont have to waste time on T2, T3 blast.

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Does that person is Matt Cutts ?

achiever2011 said:

Does that person is Matt Cutts ?

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No, Matt Cutts would tell you the opposite which are all BS