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Link Wheel FUTURE

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by luca6899, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. luca6899

    luca6899 Registered Member

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    Hi,

    I have been snooping around the forums, and I am interested in making a link wheel. I have seen people fail and succeed, so I wanted to ask what would be a good link wheel (even though it makes sense that no-one should have the same link wheel, and randomize it a little bit)

    So what is exactly the future of link wheeling (with the future I mean, which ways can you keep on building your link wheels, so it stays undetected, and also very powerfull.)

    Many thanks,
    Luca
     
  2. Micallef

    Micallef Supreme Member

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  3. luca6899

    luca6899 Registered Member

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    wow, nice page AND nice website. thanks for that
     
  4. luca6899

    luca6899 Registered Member

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    It also says something about, that your conent can just be jibberish (took from a newspaper article) and google wont notice this. Can you explain a bit more to me, I mean so I dont need to write real articles and can just read aloud with that software dragon naturally speaking. But to what extent can it just be gibberish (and what do you mean gibberish?)
     
  5. Micallef

    Micallef Supreme Member

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    It needs to be gramatically correct, but it doesn't have to make sense to the reader:

    "when the three sectors were applied in two stages, the fission reaction occurred with little loss. This has a lot to say about the tree line in boreal environments, as it contains a soil density of 5.6% in summer"

    It's gibberish, but Google won't know. Just have a vague idea of your keyword density so make sure the spider will know it's vaguely about your niche area.
     
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    It seems to me if you're using the software and since you're taking the 5 or so minutes to "talk out a document", why not at least speak intelligently about your subject?

    I totally know what you mean it can be gibberish (as in we don't have to win any literary awards), but since you're taking the time anway....
     
  8. luca6899

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    Evading Trigger 1: Mini-sites have widely varied titles, which include keyword in less than 60% of cases. Blog creation and uploads spaced out in time (e.g. an 8 site network would take 12 or 14 days to erect)

    I have a few more questions :D

    Lets say I attempt a link wheel. And it´s not really a big link wheel (lets say 6 sites, because of the competition)

    - Over howlong should I make these blogs (with lets say 5 articles each, 2 spun (60%) and 3 unique) example: first day make 1 blog, with no links to your website. second day make 3.....)

    - How "Carefull" should I be? (What Footprint can I leave? should I use a proxy with each sign-up to make it look more legit? Should I link to a .edu page, and then wait for a little while and then link it to my website for more trust? What tricks should I use?

    - How should I work the tiers? (what tiers, howmany tires, hell what IS a tier xD )

    - What kind of links should I post to these 6 blog sites (web 2.0) because I know quality is important, so would it be a problem to post blog comments to it (ofcourse mixing with profile links, youtube video links, bookmarks, articles would be better) but how low can the quality of links be?

    - How should the structure be of the link wheel? (and how can I make this structure personal)

    - What parts of the blogs should I optimize with my keywords (what keyword density)

    - Blogs with do-follow or no-follow (best is both I think)

    Any help is appreciated. Im still new to this so I am just bombarding with questions :p

    Luca
     
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    Honestly there arent that many threads that am interested here, but am really pissed that someone would take your content and put it on a blog. Especially that thread, man i tip my hat to you. I have done very litte SEO but your post have brought me very good information on the topic, thanks for taking your time on that thread.( I actually read a lot of your posts after reading that thread)
     
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  10. BHKaiser

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    I'm sorry to hear that happend to you Micallef.
    I actually implmented alot of what you said in your thread before becoming a member of BHW, it has shown me results :)
     
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    im doing kinda like a combination of mini-net and link pyramid, a two tiered network on private networks which works great
     
  12. luca6899

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    anyone with anwsers to my question?
     
  13. cashcash

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    very interesting question. I' will keep reading this post
     
  14. BigBoris

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    Well if your right im fooked :(

    If google can and will pick up independent web 2.0s not linked but pointing to the same main site and say 'aha 10 sites that link to the same site must be a spammer, get him' then those 200 directory submissions i made inside 2 days have already sealed my fate :(

    Personally, if you do not interlink your web 2.0 wheel/pyramid/whatever big G cannot asume spam/game playing/link wheel, if that was the case surely most of the high ranking web 2.0s would be deindexed no ?
     
  15. BassTrackerBoats

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    G will only have an issue with you if they see a footprint... using the same sites all the time, not randomly using some and not others, building the same number of sites for each mini-net etc are all things that will get you busted as if 5.0 was hanging in your living room.

    Absolute randomness is beyond important.
     
  16. Micallef

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    You won't be penalized for off-site factors for obvious reasons.

    Your efforts may have been wasted, however.
     
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  17. BigBoris

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    Bah, what do you mean by that Micallef ?
     
  18. platinvm

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    He means if you build links that Google knows is spam they well not penalize your site Google well just ignore those links.

    The only time Google well penalize your site for links is if they are testing you. If you are building 50-100 links a week and some of them are flagged as spam Google may temporarily drop your rankings. If you stop building links because of that then Google knows all those links were spam and they well drop your rankings even more. If you keep building links then you passed the test.

    That's just may theory and it has always worked for me.
     
  19. BigBoris

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    Thanks platinvm, i will ignore any gaagle ranking drop and keep linking :)