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Link wheel clarification

Discussion in 'Link Building' started by biks, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. biks

    biks Power Member

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    OK, so I'm sure we've all seen this diagram:

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    I understand how this works, I'm just wondering how many web 2.0 ACCOUNTS do you need to do this properly? Do I have to rebuild all the accounts and wheels if I want to promote different products?

    Let's say I'm promoting something like "Cure Toenail Fungus". I create an account on Weebly called "Toenails". I write an article about toenail fungus and put two links in the content, one to my money site and another to my hubpages site also called "Toenails". Fine - I continue building the wheel.

    But now I want to promote "cure genital warts". I already have these accounts set up on all this web 2.0 properties. Can't I just post ANOTHER article about genital warts on the Toenail web 2.0 accounts and do the same linking?

    Am I just diluting the link juice if I promote many different things from the same web 2.0 account? How much link juice am I generating if I keep building site from scratch? They all start out at PR0, right? I thought 0 + 0 = 0. If I'm linking all these PR0 sites together, where's the "juice" coming from?

    Or is the reality ANY newly created webpage has a tiny amount of PR - like PR.01? Has anyone gotten to the bottom of this?
     
  2. ┼blackrat┼

    ┼blackrat┼ Senior Member

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    One response per paragraph:

    1 - Accounts? I create one at each property for each campaign, since it´s so easy. But that does not limits you if you want to have only one account at a web 2.0 property and post various different content pages to that.

    2 - Ok

    3 - Yes, of course. The account is yours, you post whatever you want to it. Keep it niche targetted and you might even start to get some visitors to it.

    4 - Diluting link juice from the ACCOUNT? No. You´re diluting from each PAGE, if you put more links to it. / The juice comes from the domain, example, wordpress is PR9(example), and you have subdomain.wordpress.com. And since you´re gonna promote it even more by linking to it, there will be more juice flowing.

    5 - Yes, it is true. Imo. Pagerank doesn´t ranges only from 0-10. It will depend on many factors tho.
     
  3. sammy12

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    Yes, you want to build several pages under your account, for I can think of 3 reasons at least:

    1. To strenghten your network as a whole,

    2. To build a sort of authority net with your 2.0's

    3. To remove the risk of your account getting deleted..

    to explain point #3, sites such as squidoo, etc. can and do delete accounts if they believe the site is set up only to do exactly what we are doing (link wheel network, affiliate promotion, etc). The more pages you add to your account, the more it looks like, well, like you have an actual interest in maintaining it and having it there, rather than just "slap up a page and call'it good"

    To explain the pagerank, I would totally remove any math going on in your head about pagerank fractions.. the main thing is that you have a page(s) on a high authority, trusted network, that just so happens to have high pr. But pr isn't the main thing.
     
  4. Statix

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    I try to keep all the keywords used in my wheels closely related to the niche. Say I'm trying to promote my widget site. I would post 3 articles on web 2.0 site that focus on the keywords: red widget, green widget, best widgets

    This keeps the site from looking spammy and 3 articles gives it a bit more push. Even tho all the articles are mainly pointing at my money site or other 2.0 property they aren't really keyword stuffed in the content or the links. Throw in a video and the support site is finished.
     
  5. hwbarrow

    hwbarrow Newbie

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    Thank you for your clear answers Sammy12!
     
  6. sammy12

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    You're very welcome! :)

    I just thought of 2 more reasons why you want to build several pages under one acct:

    4: n0f0ll0w to d0f0llow - links set up at hubpages will turn from n0f0ll0w to d0f0ll0w after a certain score, which correlates with the number of posts/pages you have. Squidoo is similar, and I'm sure other's do this as well.

    5: Traffic authority. Say someone is searching for 'how to remove a rusted bolt'. They come across your page, which is set up on a web20. Now, your page is only one page, with a nice affiliate link (or money site) link in it. Thats cool, but the user may decide "well, thats one page, lets push the back button and see what other pages I find." Bam, potential sale gone.

    Now say you have 12 pages, all having to do with rusted bolts, or bolts in general. This visitor now looks at your page count and says, "Holy damn, JimmyBob must be a damn expert on bolts! And look at this product he recommends to remove rusted bolts, lets click here and check this out!!"
     
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