Hello Black Hat Forum people I have been an SEO for years, I have a 70/30 ratio of White to Black hat tactics. I have an interesting concept to ask the great people of this forum, but first have some great tips for everyone on this board. For starters, I have tried all the paid tools like scrapebox, BMD, etc and despite getting a quick boost, links always drop off. Link Wheels on the other hand, have worked like a charm from me. Although, I have a different approach to how I go about creating them. I work on creating better quality 2.0 sites than the average person. With longer articles, images with title tags,alt tags, using bold and italic, basically I create high quality links over high quantity links. I tend to buy blogposts on related niche sites for my first tier and create (or pay someone to create) high quality web 2.0 sites for the 2nd tier. Maybe when I get to the last tier I do blast with some tools, but for the most part it's and after thought. The one thing that I have noticed, is that self hosted sites have way more link-power than web 2.0 sites. One of the more frustrating things when creating sites like wordpress self hosted sites is the IP address. You Can't have sites with the same IP, search engines crush that sort of thing... That is why I propose a wordpress blog trade. The concept would be that I will add-on a domain and create a wordpress site for you to use for link building if you create a blog for me. Hostgator Baby accounts are great for this sort of thing. No cpanel access, just a simple site for people to trade. If we were to get 10-12 people interested, you could have a dozen wordpress sites to use for a fraction of the price. All with completely different IP addresses. You could use the sites as tier one sites in a link wheel or tier 2. Simply buy a handful of cheap keyword related domain names with a godaddy promo code and your set. This would be great for those interested in a serious keyword ranking. You would have a dozen or so blogs with keyword related domains with unique IP's. Your investment would be maybe the cost of the amount of domains you want to trade. Instead of buying 10 hosting accounts= $900+ you just but 10 domain names and trade with 10 people, your investment would be maybe (with a Godaddy coupon) $100. I would be happy to organize the whole trading master list, all you would have to do is add-on someones domain and then tell then create them whatever type of blog they want. The other guy would do the same and before you know it you would have 10 sites to use.Some rules would have to be in place like NO PORN, but aside from that I can't see too many holes in the plan I'm not sure anyone has ever done this before, it's a unique concept, and open for discussion. so please tell me your thoughts.