Lets have a youtube experiment!!!

yesterday i found out about the flash cookies so i started too, to delete these nasty cookies. I ll try to hide my links in the description too using your ideas, thx.
I have a question.. Whats with this sharing link, the new ytube feature when u create annotaions on the video?I am dsiabling for now, but im not sure it its not another tool to track users.
thx
 
IF someone could tell me, how could I watch youtube video without SOUND, then I think I should be able to create real views, which wont differ from real person views. Only things I need to know is that, how can I load the video that it will start playin without sound, and will youtube penalize me for watching without sound?

Also how many different views can I do from one IP? Does only one per one video count? And I wonder, how does youtube act with a referrer?
 
IF someone could tell me, how could I watch youtube video without SOUND, then I think I should be able to create real views, which wont differ from real person views. Only things I need to know is that, how can I load the video that it will start playin without sound, and will youtube penalize me for watching without sound?

Also how many different views can I do from one IP? Does only one per one video count? And I wonder, how does youtube act with a referrer?
I think you're thinking what I was thinking, loading the vids in an iframe.

The only solution I have it to upload audio-less videos.
 
IF someone could tell me, how could I watch youtube video without SOUND, then I think I should be able to create real views, which wont differ from real person views. Only things I need to know is that, how can I load the video that it will start playin without sound, and will youtube penalize me for watching without sound?

Also how many different views can I do from one IP? Does only one per one video count? And I wonder, how does youtube act with a referrer?

it dosent work, I don't no way but it dosent. I tried wakkaoaka method and it still froze around 200. they were real views to that's whats gay.
 
Just adding a few points here for those who don't know.

Autoplays are NOT counted as views, haven't been for quite a while now. So if that was your plan, try something else.

Real views freeze around the 200-300 mark, but will kick back in a few hours later. I have 2 videos created yesterday with 1,000+ real views(before the youtube update tonight). They froze around 250-300 then kicked back in.

Accounts created with banned/flagged IPs can be frozen for 1 week+ around the 200 mark, if they are not deleted.

Use new IPs to create new accounts and clean IPs to upload videos. Now will be a good time to change your IP address, if you haven't done so in a while.

Delete, delete, delete cookies! Set Firefox to delete youtube and google cookies every session(when Firefox closes). Same can be done for Opera. For extra reinforcement use another program, I use Cookie Crumble, set to delete cookies every time there's an IP change.

Boosting ratings/comments with flagged IPs can get your videos deleted, especially if the account was created with a flagged IP. You don't need that many ratings to see a difference anyway, so there's no need to go crazy. Be creative, if you need to boost ratings and make sure there's enough of a delay b/w ratings/comments. 20 comments in 10 mins = suspicious.

Channel views are still being counted and can improve the position of your videos, again, be careful and don't go too crazy.

Use annotations to send real views from a more popular video to a new one/channel.

If you are a serious Internet Marketer, you probably have a website or 2, or 3 - put your videos on them, especially the high-traffic sites/blogs(embedded without autoplay), these are real views and every bit counts right now.

Stuff like this happens to make us sit up and stop being so comfortable, as annoying as it is. From now on, find ways to maintain some kind of database/ online group etc of people interested in your services. Say you had a list of 2-3000 people right now, you could send out a bulletin with your new video(s) = real views.

As tempting as it might be, this is probably not a good time to be greedy/crazy - use videos you don't really care too much about to test stuff out. If whatever you try works, then you'll have a video with a top position - work the traffic.

Don't expect everything to be free, if you are/were making good money, then skip a few beers this week and put that $$$ towards some traffic that might work and bring in more $$$.

Less traffic means we have to work harder and be a bit more persuasive right now, make more videos, experiment with different keywords, add your voice to your videos, telling people to click that link, subscribe to your channel, or go to abc.com.

I'll probably think of a few more tips/ideas I use, but that's it for now. I have some new videos to make.

Lastly, PRAY this BS ends soon or someone comes up with a solution!!!
 
Just adding a few points here for those who don't know.

Autoplays are NOT counted as views, haven't been for quite a while now. So if that was your plan, try something else.

Real views freeze around the 200-300 mark, but will kick back in a few hours later. I have 2 videos created yesterday with 1,000+ real views(before the youtube update tonight). They froze around 250-300 then kicked back in.

Accounts created with banned/flagged IPs can be frozen for 1 week+ around the 200 mark, if they are not deleted.

Use new IPs to create new accounts and clean IPs to upload videos. Now will be a good time to change your IP address, if you haven't done so in a while.

Delete, delete, delete cookies! Set Firefox to delete youtube and google cookies every session(when Firefox closes). Same can be done for Opera. For extra reinforcement use another program, I use Cookie Crumble, set to delete cookies every time there's an IP change.

Boosting ratings/comments with flagged IPs can get your videos deleted, especially if the account was created with a flagged IP. You don't need that many ratings to see a difference anyway, so there's no need to go crazy. Be creative, if you need to boost ratings and make sure there's enough of a delay b/w ratings/comments. 20 comments in 10 mins = suspicious.

Channel views are still being counted and can improve the position of your videos, again, be careful and don't go too crazy.

Use annotations to send real views from a more popular video to a new one/channel.

If you are a serious Internet Marketer, you probably have a website or 2, or 3 - put your videos on them, especially the high-traffic sites/blogs(embedded without autoplay), these are real views and every bit counts right now.

Stuff like this happens to make us sit up and stop being so comfortable, as annoying as it is. From now on, find ways to maintain some kind of database/ online group etc of people interested in your services. Say you had a list of 2-3000 people right now, you could send out a bulletin with your new video(s) = real views.

As tempting as it might be, this is probably not a good time to be greedy/crazy - use videos you don't really care too much about to test stuff out. If whatever you try works, then you'll have a video with a top position - work the traffic.

Don't expect everything to be free, if you are/were making good money, then skip a few beers this week and put that $$$ towards some traffic that might work and bring in more $$$.

Less traffic means we have to work harder and be a bit more persuasive right now, make more videos, experiment with different keywords, add your voice to your videos, telling people to click that link, subscribe to your channel, or go to abc.com.

I'll probably think of a few more tips/ideas I use, but that's it for now. I have some new videos to make.

Lastly, PRAY this BS ends soon or someone comes up with a solution!!!


When you say 'autoplays' are not counted as views, can you clarify or define your definition of autoplays? How does YT identify 'autoplays'? I.e. I have gone as far as using scripts to generate 1 play at a time, for the full video play (1 thread) and utilizing a random delay between hits spread out between 48 seconds and 182 seconds, using a different IP for each hit. - Then, once every 1.5 - 3 hours I changed up the random delay to a completely different WIDE setting.. The vid still froze at 203 views on a brand new channel created with a random IP address. Finally, I sporadically checked the audio of the vid to make sure the hits were complete and the random delay was VERY random. -Obviously no cookies allowed -

Bottom line, I can only think of up to 4 reasons the views werent accepted:

1) The random IP used to create the account/upload the vid was coincidentally already flagged

2) YT is not accepting views from IPs without referrer information and/or high traffic IPs

3) YT has incorporated a new cookie alrogrithm into their view tallying system which 'discounts' autoplays via high counts of views that come straight into YT to a specific video without previous YT clicks to get there are disounted - I.e. 'cold hits'

AND/OR

4) The overly wishful/hopeful speculators are corrrect and the new view algorithm is not stabilized -

Anybody got any other theories?
 
By autoplay, I mean adding &autoplay=1 or rel=1&autoplay=1 to the embed code - there have been a lot of posts about trying to increase views through myspace by embedding on profiles with autoplay etc. I am pretty sure this will also apply to any script resulting in an autoplay, unless the script is mimicking the act of clicking and playing the video, possibly with a referrer code.

Here's YouTube's stance on this: ?Autoplaybacks are not counted toward the visible ?views? numbers displayed on the YouTube site because autoplaybacks are not viewer initiated. The majority of videos are not affected by this.?

If your script is just delivering hits(similar to other boosters/increasers etc), then that's different from an autoplay, but you still have the issue of proxies/freezing/ips etc, which most are facing right now.

Would be nice if youtube's update tonight changes things around.
 
3) YT has incorporated a new cookie alrogrithm into their view tallying system which 'discounts' autoplays via high counts of views that come straight into YT to a specific video without previous YT clicks to get there are disounted - I.e. 'cold hits'
I think this is it. I've suspected it from the very beginning.
Right now I'm doing my own experiment buying some 10000 real hits to my video from a traffic broker. If nothing counts than this should be it.
 
I tried
1) tubebooster + tor (and/or proxies) result: no luck
2) T.I + proxies (high anonymous (from p.heaven)) result: no luck
3) Vtunnel + the iframe method, result: no luck

Someone tried other free vpn solutions Like .anchorfree.com ?
 
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