Lance Armstrong on Oprah tonight

geomuss · Jan 20, 2013

illfounded21 said:
Haha, drawing a comparison between a cheating sportsman and a serial rapist is thin at best- they are significantly different in crime and therefore my view of them will be differ significantly too.

Also, I might need some clarification on how exactly Lance's cheating has destroyed more lives than his charity has saved?

Yes he might be a complete twat who lost his moral compass years ago, but the work is charity has done is incredibly beneficial to those it has served, which is far more important than an armchair cycling enthusiasts negative opinion .

Here's the funny thing I hate cyclists with a passion! I would quite happily run the feckers
over at every and any opportunity I could get. In my eyes they should all have tax and insurance ,ride in single file and only between able to ride between the hours of 5am
and 5.30am.

Take away the charity , what has lance Armstrong done ? Now remeber the charity
that he helped set up was mostly funded on his fantastic name of being a superhuman
sportsman and a superhuman cancer survivor.

Do not confuse the charity work with what he done, if I go out and buy a few massive
car companies like ford etc then proceed to shut it down and but donate 40 mill to charity
does that make me a good bloke.

I could go on about the coamparsions with Mr Saville and Lance but I won't, but if you
think about it and read the stories of the people that have been blighted by lance, then you may draw as many coamparsions as you wish.

B. Friendly · Jan 21, 2013

geomuss said:
What the fuck are you on! seriously is this a joke or facebook post or something.

To the stupid, intelligence looks just like insanity, as they are incapable of differentiating between the two. Read post #31 to see exactly what my post looks like in real time, by real people.

B. Friendly · Jan 21, 2013

geomuss said:
Here's the funny thing I hate cyclists with a passion!

Me too. Get them the fuck off the road. They don't belong there with their two-wheeled recreational toys. Every time one gets run over I feel sorry for the poor motorist that had to run into them. Cyclist blood all over the outside of the car, pieces of bone stuck in the treads of the tires. Someone has to pick that stuff out of there, you know. If they *ARE* going to be on the road, make them fuckers carry full coverage insurance, to cover all the possible outcomes of a motor vehicle vs. bicycle accident, to include spending the rest of their lives as quadriplegics.

They should force cyclists to ride with the skateboarders, the rollerbladers and the unicyclists. Maybe give them a round track at the playground where they can enjoy doing laps, passing-up little girls on their tricycles.

B. Friendly · Jan 21, 2013

geomuss said:
Now remember the charity that he helped set up was mostly funded on his fantastic name of being a superhuman sportsman and a superhuman cancer survivor.

I don't think he ever had "cancer". That dishonest, lying, cheating motherfucker probably faked having cancer so people would first feel sorry for him, and then act like he was some kind of hero for having "survived" it. He got Dr.'s to fake blood, get illegal drugs, etc... it naturally follows that he was able to get Dr.'s to fake both the cancer, and the "cure".

B. Friendly · Jan 21, 2013

geomuss said:
What is going to be even more devastating to a lot of people
effected by this scandal is that I have no doubt Mr Armstrong will
end up being the saviour of cycling...

I'm hoping he'll turn into a washed-out loser, and a nobody that used to be somebody. The media tries to trot these people out on screen, just like they used to, and no one gives a fuck anymore. OJ who? Who fucking cares. Tiger what? His wife is willing to take him back?

Q: Guess who the story was about?
A: Not Tiger whats-his-name, that guy that used to be really good at golfing.

Most notable accomplishment: Got brained in the head with a 12 wood, for cheating on his wife.
The only thing Tiger what's-his-name could do to make us pay attention to him again: Get hit in the head by his wife again.

The smartest thing a cancer fund solicitor can do right now: Start a new cancer research effort called the "Not in any way connected to Lance Armstrong Cancer Research Fund". Even organizations that were never connected to Lance Armstrong will have to start including small disclaimers in their advertisements.

American Lung Association (not affiliated in any way with Lance Armstrong)

geomuss · Jan 21, 2013

B. Friendly said:
Me too. Get them the fuck off the road. They don't belong there with their two-wheeled recreational toys. Every time one gets run over I feel sorry for the poor motorist that had to run into them. Cyclist blood all over the outside of the car, pieces of bone stuck in the treads of the tires. Someone has to pick that stuff out of there, you know. If they *ARE* going to be on the road, make them fuckers carry full coverage insurance, to cover all the possible outcomes of a motor vehicle vs. bicycle accident, to include spending the rest of their lives as quadriplegics.

They should force cyclists to ride with the skateboarders, the rollerbladers and the unicyclists. Maybe give them a round track at the playground where they can enjoy doing laps, passing-up little girls on their tricycles.

Love that reply

Sampler · Jan 21, 2013

SEOWhizz said:
The Oprah interviews were purely an exercise in reputation management. Armstrong had two prime time opportunities to win back the American public.

Who says he wants to win back the public?
Last time he did that you know what he
did? He doped to win 7 TDF's to win the heart
of the public. It's exactly this kind of perception
that everybody has to be MrPerfect and Mr Likable
that causes some unbalance in what society values.

SEOWhizz said:
"Armstrong's errors

Didn't cry properly
When high-profile guests appear on Oprah Winfrey's show, they are expected to weep copiously as they reveal all. Someone as competitive as Armstrong knows that second place counts for nothing: his choking up and near-tears just did not cut it. America wanted rivers of tears.

Why would you want him to cry? Crying
means jack shit and people would definitely
call him out if he did cry. Honestly, let the
man be who he is.

SEOWhizz said:
Didn't give a full confession
The only way to do a confession is to go all the way. Armstrong appeared to want to go only so far. He needed to name names and give full and frank details. But Armstrong seemed happy with generalities and still denies key allegations.

That's a smart move by him. Even what he
said without going into a full confession (which
he pretty much did), he didn't want to implicate
any others which could lead to several legal
matters.

SEOWhizz said:
Didn't lose the 'attitude'
During the hours of interview, many commentators remarked on Armstrong's controlled and emotionless demeanour. Armstrong needed to show he was human and worthy of sympathy and ? most importantly of all ? genuine. His performance came across as just that: something fake for the camera.

Can't tell if you are just joking now. Seriously,
a fake lack of arrogance is the worst you could
do. Secondly, he is a sportsman. I'm not saying
all sportsman are arrogant or whatever but at
the top level you do need a bit of a step in your
stride or you are going to be crushed. As such,
who gives a fuck about Lance's arrogance, it's
called a human characteristic that he's allowed
to have. If people don't like it, tough shit - go
live in your world of hugging and warm and fuzzies.

SEOWhizz said:
Played the victim
Armstrong seemed to break another cardinal rule of such confessions in having too much self-pity. At one point, he felt that he "deserved" a chance of a comeback. He had failed to understand that in the world of TV confessions that is not up to you any more."

This seems exactly like something called culture,
last time Lance did what the "culture" around
him did, he ended up doping. Lance is his own man
and he's a strong enough individual to not
try and be someone who he isn't.

Let Lance be who he is.

Sampler a.k.a a guy who has never really
supported Lance.

SEOWhizz · Jan 21, 2013

Sampler said:
Who says he wants to win back the public?

Erm. Just 'lil ol' me?

Nope. Look at all the quotes below:

"This was an exercise in reputation management: two prime-time chances to win back the American public and steer the narrative away from the more damaging USADA allegations ? such as bribing the UCI and continuing to dope in his comeback."

Code:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/others/cycling-lance-armstrong-finds-door-to-redemption-8458764.html

"Can Lance Armstrong ever win back public respect?"

Code:

http://www.itv.com/news/2013-01-17/can-lance-armstrong-ever-win-back-public-respect-oprah-winfrey-confession/

"Small wonder then that the publicity campaign around the Armstrong interview has been orchestrated for maximum exposure."

Code:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/17/entertainment-us-oprah-lancearmstrong-idUSBRE90G06920130117

Sampler said:
Last time he did that you know what he did? He doped to win 7 TDF's to win the heart of the public.

So Armstrong got to 6 TDF's and said to himself "Oh, I know I'll go for TDF 7 because I really must 'win the heart of the public'".

Nope.

You write as if have no clue about pro cycling. A pro cyclist dopes to maintain a consistent performance to train and compete throughout a long and grueling cycling season. Why does he need to do this? So he can get a pro contract for the next year. No team is going to sign a rider who has shown no form in the previous year. A rider wins the TDF not only because he has great form but because he has a great team. The 'public' do not even come into the equation.

Sampler said:
Why would you want him to cry?

Personally, I couldn't care less, but the American public do. Apparently, it's called entertainment.

Sampler said:
That's a smart move by him.

Is that why several of his fomer sponsors are now taking legal action against him to reclaim the money he got through his lies? Very smart.

Sampler said:
he didn't want to implicate any others which could lead to several legal matters

Armstrong has already proven he couldn't care less about "others" i.e. his fellow riders. He bullied other riders and some had their careers ruined. He called the Irish masseuse who was his friend for years a drunk prostitute, because she exposed his drug abuse.

Sampler said:
Can't tell if you are just joking now.

Do you realise that the text is quoted. They're not my words, follow the link, it may help.

Sampler said:
Secondly, he is a sportsman.

No, he was a retired cyclist. Now he's just perma banned.

Sampler said:
Sampler a.k.a a guy who has never really supported Lance.

Now that really is a joke.

Sampler · Jan 21, 2013

SEOWhizz said:
Now that really is a joke.

Haha, I was never a fan but I didn't dislike
him. I just feel a lot of people who talk about
Lance have probably never watched more than
5min of the TDF let alone follow any other aspect
of the sport, and that he deserves a bit of
defending.

That said, everyones entitled to their opinion.

I've said my piece and I get what you and others
have to say.

Long Live Cycling,

Sampler

s0ap · Jan 21, 2013

Done.

Lance Armstrong on Oprah tonight

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