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King SEO uses 'permanent' as false advertising

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by MySEOpower, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. MySEOpower

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    Dear reader,

    URL profile: https://www.blackhatworld.com/members/king-seo.758392/

    After 3 days of conversation between King SEO and me, I unfortunately have to come to the conclusion that the seller isn't willing to compromise. I contacted King SEO 8th of June 2018 with the message that services he provided to me a few years ago have vanished completely. I've ordered 2 x 50 PBN links (100 total) and his whole PBN domains network has expired. Looking at the backlogs of lost backlinks, I found that these links already expired a really long time ago. Too bad I only recently noticed this, reviewing the backlink profile once again.

    After a full week of ignoring at Skype, I posted a review in his Sales Topic stating that the links have disappeared and that I'm deeply dissatisfied with how the sellers handles this case. Only 3 minutes after that, the seller suddenly was able to contact me at Skype, demanding me to delete the bad review. I offered him the opportunity to refund the order, in order to solve this issue. After talking about the refund option for a while, the seller made clear that he wasn't willing to do this. While this didn't seem to lead to a solution, I asked him if he could replace the links with REAL permanent links.

    The seller stated that he only guarantees links to be online for 15 days and uses as an argument that all sellers on BHW only guarantees this for 15 days. While at the same time, the title of this advertisement clearly states 'permanent blogs'. The 15 days guarantee can't be found anywhere in his advertisement. I think that if a buyer invests $1000 in his service, the links may be gone only 15 days after the payment (before they will even index) and the seller is fine with that. His advertisement is just FALSE ADVERTISING.

    I'm willing to settle the issue for replacements links that will stay online for at least a reasonable time, like 3 years. I'm also willing to accept a refund.

    The seller now threatens to contact my clients about this matter, which is totally unrelevant and is backmailing (which is against the law).

    I'm so sorry that you have to invest time in this issue, I hoped to be able to solve this issue with the seller, but when threatening about blackmailing I don't think I have a choice then to solve this by using the Shitlist.

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  2. MisterF

    MisterF Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    @King SEO has been notified they have 48 hours to respond to this post.

    @BassTrackerBoats and I will both be mediating this.

    PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.


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  3. King SEO

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    I am ready to post the entire conversation from the beginning here or in shitlist. I dont think its good, someone can simply come and threaten me to refund for the order ( after few days the demand has changed for a replacement which should be guaranteed for 3 years) which was placed 3 years ago. I guessed he is doing this to more sellers so wanted to let everyone know about him.

    I was even ready to replace him but he was asking for 3 years guarantee which is not mentioned anywhere even no sellers would guarantee more than 1 month.

    HE USED MY SERVICE
    HE RANKED WITH MY LINKS
    SUDDENLY WOKE UP AFTER 3 YEARS AND ASKING FOR REFUND...

    I am looking for someone who can judge this in right way and I am ready to do what they suggest me. If its a MOD, I will be happy to listen their words and do exactly what they recommend me to do.

    I posting the entire conversation including his threatening and blackmailing (which he was doing right at the beginning) in next reply.

    Waiting for a solution.
     
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    MisterF Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Post everything to want to say as a reponse into this Shitlist please, ensuring any private information is obscured. But please do keep it professional.
     
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  5. King SEO

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    Please check all his previous replies in other services (his removed and edited replies can be seen by MODs only) , It is clear that he is doing this blackmailing to all the sellers.

    [14-Jun-18 6:10:03 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You ignored for a full week and after a post you can respond in 5 minutes?
    [14-Jun-18 6:10:17 PM] ☜King SEO☞: when did you order me?
    [14-Jun-18 6:10:29 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Look at the reports
    [14-Jun-18 6:10:42 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: ALL links are gone
    [14-Jun-18 6:10:47 PM] ☜King SEO☞: I think you ordered at 2015
    [14-Jun-18 6:10:49 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You promise permanent links right?
    [14-Jun-18 6:11:56 PM] ☜King SEO☞: i am just take care this profile from last 6 months actually it was taken careby one of my friend
    [14-Jun-18 6:12:04 PM] ☜King SEO☞: please remove the post bro
    [14-Jun-18 6:12:14 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Why would I remove the post?
    [14-Jun-18 6:12:19 PM] ☜King SEO☞: totally affect my service
    [14-Jun-18 6:12:39 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Yeh and all your links dissapearing effects your customers money
    [14-Jun-18 6:12:42 PM] ☜King SEO☞: actually you ordered me 2 years back
    [14-Jun-18 6:12:57 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Look at your advertisement; permanent links
    [14-Jun-18 6:13:19 PM] ☜King SEO☞: yeah i can understand
    [14-Jun-18 6:13:25 PM] ☜King SEO☞: please remove it now
    [14-Jun-18 6:13:35 PM] ☜King SEO☞: we will give you replacement for those links
    [14-Jun-18 6:13:44 PM] ☜King SEO☞: or else will get back the refund
    [14-Jun-18 6:14:27 PM] ☜King SEO☞: please remove that bro
    [14-Jun-18 6:14:54 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I paid 2x $109
    [14-Jun-18 6:14:59 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: For a total of 100 links
    [14-Jun-18 6:15:08 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: And that has vanished
    [14-Jun-18 6:16:04 PM] ☜King SEO☞: ok i will give you the 100 replacement links
    [14-Jun-18 6:16:11 PM] ☜King SEO☞: within one week tat
    [14-Jun-18 6:16:19 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Just refund $220.
    [14-Jun-18 6:16:30 PM | Edited 6:16:33 PM] ☜King SEO☞: OK I WILL DO WITHIN 48 HRS

    (I wanted to refund at the beginning until my partner came up and advised me that we should not motivate these guys who asks for refund after 3 years by accepting to refund hi - It seemed good to me too and I went for alternate solution by replacing, I still want to resolve but this guy's replies were like threatening and blackmailing which I dont like and planned to get this into public by himself)

    [14-Jun-18 6:16:54 PM] ☜King SEO☞: please remove the post now
    [14-Jun-18 6:17:03 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You expect the post to be removed without refunding first?
    [14-Jun-18 6:17:10 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: And then again ignore for a full week?
    [14-Jun-18 6:17:14 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Neh, just refund first.
    [14-Jun-18 6:18:36 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: After refund I will instantly delete the review.
    [14-Jun-18 6:19:46 PM | Edited 6:19:51 PM] ☜King SEO☞: i will do rework
    [14-Jun-18 6:20:03 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Refund the orders.
    [14-Jun-18 6:20:13 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I don't want shitty rework that will also vanish
    [14-Jun-18 6:20:27 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You don't offer permanent links, you just don't
    [14-Jun-18 6:20:47 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: It's one thing that this may not be said in your advertisement topic; but just refund then
    [14-Jun-18 6:25:59 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: So?
    [14-Jun-18 6:35:52 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Are you aware that I wouldn't be able to edit or delete the post after a while? This should not be your moment to once again ignore your customers.
    [14-Jun-18 6:41:38 PM] ☜King SEO☞: how can i give you the sudden refund
    [14-Jun-18 6:41:59 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: What do you mean?
    [14-Jun-18 6:42:09 PM] ☜King SEO☞: its been 2 years from the link placement
    [14-Jun-18 6:42:41 PM] ☜King SEO☞: and i have cleared mentioned in the sales thread that we don't offer any refund once the links was placed.
    [14-Jun-18 6:42:48 PM] ☜King SEO☞: have you noticed that?\
    [14-Jun-18 6:43:11 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You clearly mentioned that the links are permanent, a service you clearly don't offer looking at the evidence
    [14-Jun-18 6:43:37 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: And I'm positive BHW moderators would agree with this, reviewing the reports
    [14-Jun-18 6:44:09 PM] ☜King SEO☞: You clearly mentioned that the links are permanent, a service you clearly don't offer looking at the evidence ok i have proof and i will talk with moderator
    [14-Jun-18 6:44:19 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: What is your proof?
    [14-Jun-18 6:44:23 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: All the links are gone.
    [14-Jun-18 6:44:29 PM] ☜King SEO☞: we cant offer refund
    [14-Jun-18 6:44:33 PM] ☜King SEO☞: thanks\
    [14-Jun-18 6:44:40 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You can't?
    [14-Jun-18 6:44:54 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Why would you have my money for a service that is not offered?
    [14-Jun-18 6:45:55 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I will post a new post with the details you just sent me then
    [14-Jun-18 6:46:02 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: That you don't offer permanent links at all
    [14-Jun-18 6:46:15 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: And that you don't care about vanished links.
    [14-Jun-18 6:46:39 PM] ☜King SEO☞: i told you that we are ready to offer rework
    [14-Jun-18 6:46:53 PM] ☜King SEO☞: for that money you have paid
    [14-Jun-18 6:46:57 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: And after like a year max all those links are also gone?
    [14-Jun-18 6:47:05 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Since that's your business model; letting domaisn expire
    [14-Jun-18 6:47:07 PM] ☜King SEO☞: even you have paid two years ago
    [14-Jun-18 6:47:26 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: How can you promise that the new links will remain online?
    [14-Jun-18 6:48:25 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Won't it be just the same in a year?
    [14-Jun-18 6:48:49 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: And I have to get back to you once again to get my deleted links replaced?
    [14-Jun-18 6:51:50 PM | Edited 6:52:03 PM] ☜King SEO☞: I will give you the permanent links
    [14-Jun-18 6:52:02 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You promised that the last time right?
    [14-Jun-18 6:52:10 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: And 100% of the links are gone
    [14-Jun-18 6:53:17 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Mate, if you can't promise that links will be permanent why dont you just refund? Clearly I'm not the customer for you then and we will have the same conversation in a year
    [14-Jun-18 6:53:38 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: We both know you will let the domains expire after a while
    [14-Jun-18 6:58:48 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: ?????
    [14-Jun-18 7:02:11 PM | Removed 7:47:37 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: This message has been removed.
    [14-Jun-18 8:33:45 PM | Edited 8:34:02 PM] ☜King SEO☞: we will never give you the refund
    [14-Jun-18 8:34:16 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Moderator advised me to create a shitlist
    [14-Jun-18 8:34:26 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Will we continue doing that?
    [14-Jun-18 8:34:36 PM] ☜King SEO☞: he also talk to me
    [14-Jun-18 8:34:50 PM] ☜King SEO☞: we will also create the shit list
    [14-Jun-18 8:35:02 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You know the fun thing is
    [14-Jun-18 8:35:04 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You cant
    [14-Jun-18 8:35:18 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Since you are the only party doing something wrong
    [14-Jun-18 8:35:31 PM] ☜King SEO☞: cool mr (name removed by mod)
    [14-Jun-18 8:36:08 PM] ☜King SEO☞: we will also have a proof of everthing
    [14-Jun-18 8:36:16 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Proof of what?
    [14-Jun-18 8:36:22 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: The only proof is that all the links are gone
    [14-Jun-18 8:36:29 PM] ☜King SEO☞: I don't want say anything here
    [14-Jun-18 8:36:38 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You sure?
    [14-Jun-18 8:37:09 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Ill open the shitlist :)
    [14-Jun-18 8:38:11 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: It's so easy to solve the issue, but instead you want all this
    [14-Jun-18 8:38:54 PM] ☜King SEO☞: ok you can do that
    [14-Jun-18 8:39:04 PM] ☜King SEO☞: we will face that problem
    [14-Jun-18 8:39:12 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Okay
    [14-Jun-18 8:39:23 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You know this is bad for your service right?
    [14-Jun-18 8:39:32 PM | Edited 8:40:09 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I really don't understand why you just don't solve the issue
    [14-Jun-18 8:39:48 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Which will make the bad review get deleted and will prevent a shitlist from happening
    [14-Jun-18 8:40:10 PM] ☜King SEO☞: you are threatening so we don't want to talk anything here
    [14-Jun-18 8:40:45 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I am not. This is what is advised to do
    [14-Jun-18 8:41:18 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You know the shit list will in the end show that your service doesn't offer permanent links? I hope they will just delete your service then
    [14-Jun-18 8:41:35 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I have proof of all the 404 links
    [14-Jun-18 8:41:52 PM | Edited 8:42:11 PM] ☜King SEO☞: no worries we don't want to talk anymore here
    [14-Jun-18 8:42:04 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Okay
    [14-Jun-18 8:42:14 PM] ☜King SEO☞: thanks
    [14-Jun-18 8:42:29 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Too bad you offer such a scammy service
    [14-Jun-18 8:43:01 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I offered you the opportunity to replace to links if your could promise that they would be permanent
    [14-Jun-18 8:43:03 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: And you couldnt
    [14-Jun-18 8:43:39 PM] ☜King SEO☞: we are ready to offer you the replacement links . I told you that already
    [14-Jun-18 8:43:44 PM] ☜King SEO☞: you only ask refund
    [14-Jun-18 8:43:54 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Thats not true
    [14-Jun-18 8:44:06 PM] ☜King SEO☞: check the previous chat
    [14-Jun-18 8:44:14 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing:
    How can you promise that the new links will remain online?

    Won't it be just the same in a year?
    And I have to get back to you once again to get my deleted links replaced?
    ☜King 15:21
    I will give you the permanent links

    15:22
    You promised that the last time right?

    [14-Jun-18 8:44:35 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You didn't answer how you will garantuee that these links are permanent
    [14-Jun-18 8:46:45 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Instead of answering that you just ignored
    [14-Jun-18 8:49:24 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: For the last time I'll ask you this question: Are you willing to provide 100 new blogs with details I'll provide, within a max TAT of 7 days, garantueed that these links will be permanent and at least online for the coming 3 years?
    [14-Jun-18 8:49:32 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Easy yes or no
    [15-Jun-18 3:02:09 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You just dont want to solve the issue do you?
    [15-Jun-18 5:22:00 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Last chance mate....
    [15-Jun-18 5:22:36 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: For the last time I'll ask you this question: Are you willing to provide 100 new blogs with details I'll provide, within a max TAT of 7 days, garantueed that these links will be permanent and at least online for the coming 3 years?
    [15-Jun-18 5:25:40 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: ????
    [15-Jun-18 5:26:51 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Ok I'm done mate, you just read the messages and decide to keep ignoring. I'll send our convo to moderators a will open shitlist now
    [15-Jun-18 5:27:04 PM] ☜King SEO☞: Listen, I don't like someone threatening me at all. If you want to proceed by opening shitlist, please do it, I know how to handle this.

    And learn another thing,, no seller can give you guarantee on the links they sell. You can check the whole BHW and you cant find anyone to offer you permanent links. And you are asking me 3 years guarantee? Don't be greedy man...

    Getting refund from me after 3 years of order placed and using it to another seller to cheat him is your idea right? Even If I agree to replace you those 100 posts, I cant offer you more than 15 days guarantee, its how it works, Its Blackhat.

    If you still want to open shitlist, please do that, don't give me chances. So that everyone will know your greedy mind and they don't sell you any of their services.
    [15-Jun-18 5:28:09 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: 15 days gaurantee for links you sell as permanent? Hahahaha
    [15-Jun-18 5:28:29 PM] ☜King SEO☞: it not joke ,, go open the shitlist fast
    [15-Jun-18 5:28:40 PM | Edited 5:28:45 PM] ☜King SEO☞: i have something to post there in public,,
    [15-Jun-18 5:28:55 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Sure
    [15-Jun-18 5:29:20 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I doubt moderators would be happy about the fact that you decide just not to find a solution
    [15-Jun-18 5:29:32 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: It's a waste of the moderators time this way
    [15-Jun-18 5:29:38 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: In the end you still have to refund or replace
    [15-Jun-18 5:29:44 PM] ☜King SEO☞: its you ,who don't find the solution but being greedy,,
    [15-Jun-18 5:30:08 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: What's greedy about expecting a permanent service to be permanent?
    [15-Jun-18 5:30:13 PM] ☜King SEO☞: do onething, don't send me messages here,, open the shitlist. lets have convo there
    [15-Jun-18 5:30:45 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Why don't you just agree with replacement of the links with at least a reasonable time that the links are online?
    [15-Jun-18 5:31:51 PM] ☜King SEO☞: 15 days is the reasonable time to me.. most of the sellers don't offer even those 15 days,
    [15-Jun-18 5:32:07 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: So people pay for your services
    [15-Jun-18 5:32:15 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: And the links vanishes after 15 days
    [15-Jun-18 5:32:20 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: And you think that's fine?
    [15-Jun-18 5:32:34 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: That's what your customers pay for?
    [15-Jun-18 5:32:51 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You know most links don't even get indexed within 15 days right?
    [15-Jun-18 5:34:20 PM] ☜King SEO☞: Do u think utilizing my links for months and getting rankings with it, and asking for refund after 3 years is good to you? Did I open my service to so?
    [15-Jun-18 5:34:46 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Never got any rankings with your links haha
    [15-Jun-18 5:34:59 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: And the first links started to dissapear after only a few weeks
    [15-Jun-18 5:35:09 PM] ☜King SEO☞: he hem why do u ask for replacements then? prove me that you didn't get rankings
    [15-Jun-18 5:35:13 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I recently checked vanished backlinks back in 2016 and found all your PBN's
    [15-Jun-18 5:35:25 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I can prove that right away
    [15-Jun-18 5:35:30 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Got all SERP stats mate
    [15-Jun-18 5:35:40 PM] ☜King SEO☞: and firstly tell me, u said u opened shitlist but now threatening me that you are going to open it
    [15-Jun-18 5:35:58 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I did not open it yet, I never mentioned that
    [15-Jun-18 5:36:04 PM] ☜King SEO☞: keep ur stats with u., your tricks wont work with me
    [15-Jun-18 5:36:08 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I'm trying to find a solution before I bother BHW moderaotrs
    [15-Jun-18 5:36:12 PM] ☜King SEO☞: try ur best with shit list
    [15-Jun-18 5:36:26 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Tricks? I've got stats from start of 2015 for these sites
    [15-Jun-18 5:36:35 PM] ☜King SEO☞: i will give it an end there. you should be banned for doing this to all the sellers, I have read your oprevious posts in BHW
    [15-Jun-18 5:37:23 PM] ☜King SEO☞: trick means - your job and cheating ways to get refund after 3 years
    [15-Jun-18 5:37:24 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I've bought around 40 services on BHW mate :)
    [15-Jun-18 5:37:30 PM] ☜King SEO☞: it wont work with me.. \
    [15-Jun-18 5:38:00 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Hahaha
    [15-Jun-18 5:38:06 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: So you are not willing to replace the links mate?
    [15-Jun-18 5:38:08 PM] ☜King SEO☞: I've bought around 40 services on BHW mate :)so u planned to get refund from all those 40 sellers? right?\
    [15-Jun-18 5:38:21 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: How do you figure?
    [15-Jun-18 5:38:35 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I barely ask for refunds, since most sellers just offer pemanent links
    [15-Jun-18 5:38:38 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Or at least 3 years
    [15-Jun-18 5:38:41 PM] ☜King SEO☞: So you are not willing to replace the links mate?not at all if u ask guarantee for more than 15 days, \
    [15-Jun-18 5:38:57 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Look at my previous posts
    [15-Jun-18 5:38:59 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: How many orders
    [15-Jun-18 5:39:21 PM] ☜King SEO☞: listen, i told u to open the shitlist
    [15-Jun-18 5:39:36 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I don't think your sellers would be happy to hear you only garantuee your links for 15 days mate
    [15-Jun-18 5:39:38 PM] ☜King SEO☞: i don't like to argue here
    [15-Jun-18 5:39:46 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: So when people invest $1000 in your service
    [15-Jun-18 5:39:52 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: It can be gone in 15 days
    [15-Jun-18 5:39:56 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: And you wouldn't care
    [15-Jun-18 5:40:12 PM] ☜King SEO☞: it doesn't mean it will be gone in 15 days, its blackhat and its how it works,
    [15-Jun-18 5:40:31 PM] ☜King SEO☞: it will stay 3 months even for 1 year...
    [15-Jun-18 5:41:17 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Okay, whatever
    [15-Jun-18 5:41:31 PM] ☜King SEO☞: open the shitlist please
    [15-Jun-18 5:41:38 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Will do
    [15-Jun-18 5:41:42 PM] ☜King SEO☞: i know how to handle this
    [15-Jun-18 5:41:48 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Okay
    [15-Jun-18 5:42:01 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Too bad you aren't willing to solve
    [15-Jun-18 5:42:14 PM] ☜King SEO☞: i cant solve ur being greedy problems
    [15-Jun-18 5:42:32 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Where did you mention those 15 days in your service by the way?
    [15-Jun-18 5:42:50 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Only thing I see is permanent
    [15-Jun-18 5:43:37 PM] ☜King SEO☞: i have also posted i don't give refunds. did u check that\
    [15-Jun-18 5:43:44 PM] ☜King SEO☞: Only thing I see is permanentwhere did u see that\
    [15-Jun-18 5:43:54 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: In your post title mate
    [15-Jun-18 5:43:59 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Advertisement title
    [15-Jun-18 5:44:22 PM] ☜King SEO☞: i have also posted i don't give refunds. did u check that\did u check this
    [15-Jun-18 5:44:41 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I proposed a solution with replacement links instead of refunds
    [15-Jun-18 5:44:45 PM] ☜King SEO☞: its not false advertising man, its black hat, u should know this basic things
    [15-Jun-18 5:44:57 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: It actually is false advertising
    [15-Jun-18 5:45:09 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Permanent is not the same as 15 days
    [15-Jun-18 5:45:12 PM] ☜King SEO☞: i cant agree to whatever you blabber
    [15-Jun-18 5:45:16 PM] ☜King SEO☞: did u open the shitlist yet
    [15-Jun-18 5:45:17 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Ok
    [15-Jun-18 5:45:23 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Let's stop this convo here
    [15-Jun-18 5:45:25 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Thanks
    [15-Jun-18 5:45:38 PM] ☜King SEO☞: thanks a lot
    [15-Jun-18 5:46:06 PM] ☜King SEO☞: you are from an SEO compmany, and u r doing this to all the sellers,\
    [15-Jun-18 5:46:14 PM] ☜King SEO☞: be ready to face the consequences.
    [15-Jun-18 5:46:32 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Nope, I barely ever ask for a refund :)
    [15-Jun-18 5:47:18 PM] ☜King SEO☞: I ll let all ur clients know that you doing these crap to all the sellers from whom you resells links to your clients
    [15-Jun-18 5:47:37 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: You know that is blackmailing, which is against the law right?
    [15-Jun-18 5:48:14 PM] ☜King SEO☞: if u name it blackmailing, yeah, keep it... but what ur doing is even worse.. ur threatening me right from the beginning.
    [15-Jun-18 5:48:31 PM] ☜King SEO☞: who said its blackmailing? blackmailing should have a demand..
    [15-Jun-18 5:48:48 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Please, stop this conversation here
    [15-Jun-18 5:48:55 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: I'm glad to talk to you again in public forum
    [15-Jun-18 5:48:57 PM] Webdevelopment & Online Marketing: Thanks
    [15-Jun-18 5:48:59 PM | Edited 5:49:03 PM] ☜King SEO☞: im telling this from the morning

    Please check all his previous replies in other services (his removed and edited replies can be seen by MODs only) , It is clear that he is doing this blackmailing to all the sellers.

    I worked for your site and you utilized my links 3 years and want full refund today, so who will pay for my team who worked for you? Do you want every seller to work for you without getting paid? This is not funny OP.
     
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  6. MySEOpower

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    @MisterF & @BassTrackerBoats, thanks in advance for mediating this case.

    @King SEO, let's sum up a few facts about the service you've offered me:

    - I've just checked the first 10 links from 1 of your reports and this is what came up:
    Website #1: Down 2 months after link placement (and never indexed)
    Website #2: Down 10 months after link placement
    Website #3: Down 1 month after link placement (and never indexed)
    Website #4: Down 1 month after link placement (and never indexed)
    Website #5: Down 4 months after link placement
    Website #6: Down 10 months after link placement
    Website #7: Down 10 months after link placement
    Website #8: Down 6 months after link placement
    Website #9: Cannot be determined

    My conclusion is: The time the link will be online clearly depends on the expiration date of your domain. When you become a client of King SEO when his links are about to expire, they will be gone in a second. If you are lucky, then the domain will expire in like 10 months top. @King SEO, Please inform me; how does this have to do with Blackhat as you mentioned as an argument for a so-called '15 days guarantee'? Isn't this just you don't making re-investments for your clients by means of domain renewal once they ordered from you?

    Another fun fact is that your PBN domains that remained online for like 10 months even shows new posts a few days before you let the domain expire (Web Archive). So; you see that your domain will expire soon and you know you don't renew your domains, and right before the expiration date you still pump the domains with blogs from your client so clients will see a live link for a few days once delivered?

    Furthermore, @King SEO, in our Skype conversation your are suggesting that you guarantee a link to be online for a minimum of 15 days. You as a self-proclaimed 'SEO Marketer' (profile page) should be aware that most of your links won't even index in these 15 days, let alone pass any link juice to your clients. Furthermore, could you please show me where you mentioned this so-called '15 days online guarantee' in your advertisement? Don't you think that your clients should be aware that their bought links from you have a fair chance of vanishing in 15 days?

    And, finally, @King SEO, do you think it is fair practice to threaten to approach the customers of your clients, because your client isn't satisfied with the service you are offering? Don't you think this is just blackmailing of your clients?

    @MisterF As an independent party, how do you interpet his 'permanent blogs' in the title of the advertisement? Can it be expected that customers can see their links vanish in a few days, just because the seller isn't willing to renew the domains? And do you agree that the '15 days online guarantee' can't be found elsewhere and that the customer can expect the links to be online for quite a while, looking at the 'permanent' suggestion in the advertisement title?

    Looking forward to both replies. @MisterF, I'm willing to provide the PBN domains I've checked above if you would like to check for yourself. I don't think it will benefit anyone to make these previous PBN domains public.
     
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    Please stop telling the word PERMANENT that's in the title, it was recently changed one It was not the same when you ordered in BC, I would like to request MOD to look into it.

    The word permanent means, It will be permanent until the blogs' life. Google can take down any PBN at any time, NO one is smarter than Google and everyone knows this except you.

    If Google de-indexes the blogs, Who would like to keep the links from them? It's absolutely only you just to threaten/blackmail the sellers.

    Requesting MOD Again: Please look into his previous replies If he has done the same to any other seller.

    @MySEOpower
    I clearly told you, It doesn't mean my blogs would last only for 15 days, it might last for 3 months even for 1+ years. It really is not in anyone's hands.

    Please check any seller and their replacement/guarantee periods.

    And I would like to ask you only one question. What have you been doing all these 2 years? You forgot to track your site's backlink profile and missed to find that my links did not exist in a year? All your plan is to get a refund from all sellers by threatening and use them for your other clients, If they don't co-operate, you 'll crash their threads, right?
     
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    Lets ignore anyone else's replacement/guarantee periods for this thread please and focus on the business transaction between you two.
     
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    @King SEO Unfortunately, you barely answered any questions asked in the previous post. I've bought from many sellers at BHW and most of the sellers provide links that are online for 2/3 years without any problem. I think it's also unrelevant what other sellers offer, right? The so-called '15 days online guarantee' you continue to refer to doesn't exist in your sales thread (please confirm MODs). This is just something you've made up for complaining customers, so that you don't have to refund or replace the links.

    Your previous title was: $1.99 Makes You Rank Quicker | PR 1,2,3,4 Permanent BlogPost | DA 20. This mentions permanent right? (please confirm this statement MODs, and 'permanent' being in his thread back then)

    And once and for all: we don't use Blackhat for our clients and therefore never bought services on BHW for our clients. Therefore, your statement is once again false.
     
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    You neither answered my questions @ Myseopower.

    @BassTrackerBoats - hello sir, I don't really want to extend this conversation as we have discussed more than enough in skype and he is not ready to understand. Please recommend me a solution and I will do whatever you suggest. And please consider that my team worked for him.

    I wanted to let everyone know about his creative scam of asking refunds after 3 years so others would be alert about him.
     
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    The buyer is due a refund. This is the part that nails it for me;

    The BST wording is clear enough; https://gyazo.com/d76db7572548411cb57f25e563df83b5 here the seller even uses 'completely permanent'

    Yes in 10 years I'd not expect them all to be there, but 24 months / 36 months isn't anywhere near long enough, when someone is selling as "completely permanent"

    Definitions of completely; Totally, utterly or in every way or as much as possible
    Definitions of permanent; 1. lasting for a long time or for ever: 2. Something that is permanent exists or happens all the time:


    I'm also suggesting that @King SEO needs to update his BST terms and if he cannot deliver permanent links he needs to alter the wording but still make it a reasonable period of time. @BassTrackerBoats will be able to action this for you.


    Once the full refund is complete, if @MySEOpower can confirm funds have cleared, then I can mark this as resolved.
     
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    @MisterF Thank you for your fair judgement. I've provided the seller with the payment details for the refund. He mentioned that the payment will be refunded within 48 hours. I'll send you an update once the refund has been received.
     
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    @MisterF The refund has been received.

    @BassTrackerBoats & @MisterF Thank you very much for mediating this case. I hope the BST will be edited and that other buyers will now better know their rights when buying from this seller.