neilparnham
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- Mar 3, 2008
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This is what i sent to job centre as complaint - ive changed the name to code names.
Hi,
I would like to complain in regards to the current situation i am in, I am on new deal at the Lincoln job centre and was put onto Training in Lincoln, my trainer at the Training centre got me a placement within a company called pms as they said at first they commented on my skills in IT, then to them it became a concern as for some reason they believed I would hack the systems, firstly I would not hack the systems as they have a programmer within the company and he would be able to trace me and secondly I would not know how I may be good at IT but I cannot program or hack systems. I do online marketing and was speaking to the programmer at principle medical services about something called cookie stuffing which is a way of earning income through marketing online ? and from this they got the idea that I would be able to hack the systems by marketing which is impossible.
Then I was ill on a Wednesday so I got my mom to ring in at pms as I thought I was there on the Wednesday, then I went into principle medical services on Thursday and told them that I had to be at Training on Friday which I thought I did, then they rang Lagat and found out that I was meant to be in on Wednesday, now on Thursday afternoon the boss called me up to her and fired me from the placement ? so I got fired for making a simple mistake and being too good at IT.
Then my trainer spoke to me and also the advisor ? my advisor said to my trainer that he thought I was negative about everything and was childish ? my trainer said he didn?t agree with the childish part but said I was negative ? and also he kept saying in regards to pms that I was stupid and I know I am stupid ? I got dismissed for one day from the course, I do not find it right when all I did wrong was be too smart at IT and make an honest mistake.
Now throughout the time I have been in the actual Training building I was applying for jobs and sending out Cv?s and covering letters, I am quite interested in web design and marketing, and certain opportunities arose where I thought I could help improve the website and market the site ? ive said on numerous occasions to my trainer I saw the sites that I could help improve them and he all the time says that this is negative behaviour ? sorry for the language but he said that im saying the sites and marketing are ?crap? and I never even mentioned any words such as that I merely said that I could help develop the website and improve the marketing ? I don?t see how this is negative behaviour.
When talking about the negative behaviour he pointing to a bottle of coke I had on the table and he said tell me something about that bottle of coke and I said its nearly empty, then he said there you go again with the negative attitude saying I should say its 1 /4 full, I don?t understand how saying its nearly empty can be accounted as a negative attitude.
And another time ? I took a numeracy mock test on level 2 and I passed that, then I tried the level 3 and I knew that I wouldn?t pass as I am not at the Level 3 standard and he started saying here is the negative attitude again, I do not consider this a negative attitude its merely stating that I knew I wouldn?t be able to pass it as I am not to the Level 3 standard as I have took the Level 3 test before.
Whilst at pms I had the chance to look at their database system, and then when I went back to the Training Centre I said to my trainer that I found the database confusing ? and again he said I was having a negative attitude, which I was not I was stating the fact that I found the database systems confusing as they were very complex.
He also said that I am a very opinionated person, this I find very hard to understand as im a very open person ? I was even discussing his belief system with him, as I enjoy learning about different peoples beliefs ? If I were an opinionated person I would not wish to hear about someone else?s belief system and I would debate them with him which I did not, as I belief everyone should have their own beliefs and they shouldn?t be challenged as that would be challenging the persons foundations.
I had an interview this week with gws which went well and he said the wanted to give me the placement starting this coming Monday, I said that I will attend the interview I had yesterday and would let him know today.
Now yesterday I had the interview and all went well ? I had the interview with the manager whom relayed the information to the company owner ? now I said to them that I would not be able to have a placement there unless they said they would have the possibility of a job at the end ? now they reworded what I said to my trainer that I had told them to lie to get a placement there ? they also said I would not discuss one of my previous jobs at the CoLC which is false as I did discuss it ? I said that I was there to undertake my business nvq level 2 , then I said firstly I was in the planning department then I went into the housing department then I went into a building that the council part owns which is MW in which I was on reception ? I said whilst on the reception I was using 3 phone systems ? one for external calls looking after around 40 companies when they diverted there phones to us then 1 for internal calls from clients if they needed assistance, then from the main hq of the CoLC ? I then said that I also dealt with clients coming into the facility ? dealing with post ? packages for coming ? organising meetings and refreshments ? now I don?t consider this as i was not discussing this ? as I was talking about it and was informing of my previous duties ? he also mentioned whilst on reception did I have to actually discuss clients requests or did I just take messages ? said that I did both and I said for example with some web design companies within the business I was able to help them more as I have experience with web design.
He also told my trainer that I was talking down to him as if I was greater than him ? which is also false as I purposely kept technical talk about web design to a minimum - I was also interested in the nvq the manager was undertaking as he and I both said me being in the company would help with him completing segments of his nvq in management ? so therefore as I was looking to help him and the business I cannot see how I was looking down on him. I also mentioned that I was dismissed from my last placement and I gave the reasons why ? and he said that he found it stupid that I would be dismissed for being too good at IT, me mentioned I was dismissed I thought would be a good thing as it is showing honesty and that is what most companies desire an honest person.
Now this morning I went to Training and my trainer took me into a empty room and said all these things ? and also spoke to me in the exact manner he was describing me as being ? throughout this time here I have felt as if I am being trampled on and almost brought to the point of despair. I also mentioned when talking to my trainer about another trainee in the building that he himself called awkward ? so as I didn?t know his name I merely asked what area of work this awkward man was looking to be in and he starting saying it is none of your business ? and then he said he has been working since he was 17 and I said 17 back at him as I thought most people whom of his age started work at around 16, then he said there you go again you are questioning me to say that I am wrong to say that his facts and what he had written down were wrong ? where as I was just wondering as most people I knew from his age area started work at 16. Now he said to me that I was looking down at him and the guy and that the other guy I thought I was better than him and he said that he had far more qualifications than me.
I then asked for my bus fare and left because I was dismissed (and I don?t know when I will be paid again on the job seekers allowance) , all this has been stressing me a lot and when he was talking down to me earlier I almost went over the edge and nearly crying as I do not expect when to be looking and trying hard to find a job to be bullied especially by the trainer.
No doubt if I told you his name he would make up another story and reword everything I say as he always does. If you wish to contact me please do so via email ? I will be out trying to find a job so I don?t have to deal with him again ? plus I need one as thanks to him and everyone else I will have no money.
Neil.
Hi,
I would like to complain in regards to the current situation i am in, I am on new deal at the Lincoln job centre and was put onto Training in Lincoln, my trainer at the Training centre got me a placement within a company called pms as they said at first they commented on my skills in IT, then to them it became a concern as for some reason they believed I would hack the systems, firstly I would not hack the systems as they have a programmer within the company and he would be able to trace me and secondly I would not know how I may be good at IT but I cannot program or hack systems. I do online marketing and was speaking to the programmer at principle medical services about something called cookie stuffing which is a way of earning income through marketing online ? and from this they got the idea that I would be able to hack the systems by marketing which is impossible.
Then I was ill on a Wednesday so I got my mom to ring in at pms as I thought I was there on the Wednesday, then I went into principle medical services on Thursday and told them that I had to be at Training on Friday which I thought I did, then they rang Lagat and found out that I was meant to be in on Wednesday, now on Thursday afternoon the boss called me up to her and fired me from the placement ? so I got fired for making a simple mistake and being too good at IT.
Then my trainer spoke to me and also the advisor ? my advisor said to my trainer that he thought I was negative about everything and was childish ? my trainer said he didn?t agree with the childish part but said I was negative ? and also he kept saying in regards to pms that I was stupid and I know I am stupid ? I got dismissed for one day from the course, I do not find it right when all I did wrong was be too smart at IT and make an honest mistake.
Now throughout the time I have been in the actual Training building I was applying for jobs and sending out Cv?s and covering letters, I am quite interested in web design and marketing, and certain opportunities arose where I thought I could help improve the website and market the site ? ive said on numerous occasions to my trainer I saw the sites that I could help improve them and he all the time says that this is negative behaviour ? sorry for the language but he said that im saying the sites and marketing are ?crap? and I never even mentioned any words such as that I merely said that I could help develop the website and improve the marketing ? I don?t see how this is negative behaviour.
When talking about the negative behaviour he pointing to a bottle of coke I had on the table and he said tell me something about that bottle of coke and I said its nearly empty, then he said there you go again with the negative attitude saying I should say its 1 /4 full, I don?t understand how saying its nearly empty can be accounted as a negative attitude.
And another time ? I took a numeracy mock test on level 2 and I passed that, then I tried the level 3 and I knew that I wouldn?t pass as I am not at the Level 3 standard and he started saying here is the negative attitude again, I do not consider this a negative attitude its merely stating that I knew I wouldn?t be able to pass it as I am not to the Level 3 standard as I have took the Level 3 test before.
Whilst at pms I had the chance to look at their database system, and then when I went back to the Training Centre I said to my trainer that I found the database confusing ? and again he said I was having a negative attitude, which I was not I was stating the fact that I found the database systems confusing as they were very complex.
He also said that I am a very opinionated person, this I find very hard to understand as im a very open person ? I was even discussing his belief system with him, as I enjoy learning about different peoples beliefs ? If I were an opinionated person I would not wish to hear about someone else?s belief system and I would debate them with him which I did not, as I belief everyone should have their own beliefs and they shouldn?t be challenged as that would be challenging the persons foundations.
I had an interview this week with gws which went well and he said the wanted to give me the placement starting this coming Monday, I said that I will attend the interview I had yesterday and would let him know today.
Now yesterday I had the interview and all went well ? I had the interview with the manager whom relayed the information to the company owner ? now I said to them that I would not be able to have a placement there unless they said they would have the possibility of a job at the end ? now they reworded what I said to my trainer that I had told them to lie to get a placement there ? they also said I would not discuss one of my previous jobs at the CoLC which is false as I did discuss it ? I said that I was there to undertake my business nvq level 2 , then I said firstly I was in the planning department then I went into the housing department then I went into a building that the council part owns which is MW in which I was on reception ? I said whilst on the reception I was using 3 phone systems ? one for external calls looking after around 40 companies when they diverted there phones to us then 1 for internal calls from clients if they needed assistance, then from the main hq of the CoLC ? I then said that I also dealt with clients coming into the facility ? dealing with post ? packages for coming ? organising meetings and refreshments ? now I don?t consider this as i was not discussing this ? as I was talking about it and was informing of my previous duties ? he also mentioned whilst on reception did I have to actually discuss clients requests or did I just take messages ? said that I did both and I said for example with some web design companies within the business I was able to help them more as I have experience with web design.
He also told my trainer that I was talking down to him as if I was greater than him ? which is also false as I purposely kept technical talk about web design to a minimum - I was also interested in the nvq the manager was undertaking as he and I both said me being in the company would help with him completing segments of his nvq in management ? so therefore as I was looking to help him and the business I cannot see how I was looking down on him. I also mentioned that I was dismissed from my last placement and I gave the reasons why ? and he said that he found it stupid that I would be dismissed for being too good at IT, me mentioned I was dismissed I thought would be a good thing as it is showing honesty and that is what most companies desire an honest person.
Now this morning I went to Training and my trainer took me into a empty room and said all these things ? and also spoke to me in the exact manner he was describing me as being ? throughout this time here I have felt as if I am being trampled on and almost brought to the point of despair. I also mentioned when talking to my trainer about another trainee in the building that he himself called awkward ? so as I didn?t know his name I merely asked what area of work this awkward man was looking to be in and he starting saying it is none of your business ? and then he said he has been working since he was 17 and I said 17 back at him as I thought most people whom of his age started work at around 16, then he said there you go again you are questioning me to say that I am wrong to say that his facts and what he had written down were wrong ? where as I was just wondering as most people I knew from his age area started work at 16. Now he said to me that I was looking down at him and the guy and that the other guy I thought I was better than him and he said that he had far more qualifications than me.
I then asked for my bus fare and left because I was dismissed (and I don?t know when I will be paid again on the job seekers allowance) , all this has been stressing me a lot and when he was talking down to me earlier I almost went over the edge and nearly crying as I do not expect when to be looking and trying hard to find a job to be bullied especially by the trainer.
No doubt if I told you his name he would make up another story and reword everything I say as he always does. If you wish to contact me please do so via email ? I will be out trying to find a job so I don?t have to deal with him again ? plus I need one as thanks to him and everyone else I will have no money.
Neil.