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Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by neilparnham, Oct 10, 2008.

  1. neilparnham

    neilparnham Junior Member

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    This is what i sent to job centre as complaint - ive changed the name to code names.

    Hi,

    I would like to complain in regards to the current situation i am in, I am on new deal at the Lincoln job centre and was put onto Training in Lincoln, my trainer at the Training centre got me a placement within a company called pms as they said at first they commented on my skills in IT, then to them it became a concern as for some reason they believed I would hack the systems, firstly I would not hack the systems as they have a programmer within the company and he would be able to trace me and secondly I would not know how I may be good at IT but I cannot program or hack systems. I do online marketing and was speaking to the programmer at principle medical services about something called cookie stuffing which is a way of earning income through marketing online ? and from this they got the idea that I would be able to hack the systems by marketing which is impossible.

    Then I was ill on a Wednesday so I got my mom to ring in at pms as I thought I was there on the Wednesday, then I went into principle medical services on Thursday and told them that I had to be at Training on Friday which I thought I did, then they rang Lagat and found out that I was meant to be in on Wednesday, now on Thursday afternoon the boss called me up to her and fired me from the placement ? so I got fired for making a simple mistake and being too good at IT.

    Then my trainer spoke to me and also the advisor ? my advisor said to my trainer that he thought I was negative about everything and was childish ? my trainer said he didn?t agree with the childish part but said I was negative ? and also he kept saying in regards to pms that I was stupid and I know I am stupid ? I got dismissed for one day from the course, I do not find it right when all I did wrong was be too smart at IT and make an honest mistake.

    Now throughout the time I have been in the actual Training building I was applying for jobs and sending out Cv?s and covering letters, I am quite interested in web design and marketing, and certain opportunities arose where I thought I could help improve the website and market the site ? ive said on numerous occasions to my trainer I saw the sites that I could help improve them and he all the time says that this is negative behaviour ? sorry for the language but he said that im saying the sites and marketing are ?crap? and I never even mentioned any words such as that I merely said that I could help develop the website and improve the marketing ? I don?t see how this is negative behaviour.

    When talking about the negative behaviour he pointing to a bottle of coke I had on the table and he said tell me something about that bottle of coke and I said its nearly empty, then he said there you go again with the negative attitude saying I should say its 1 /4 full, I don?t understand how saying its nearly empty can be accounted as a negative attitude.

    And another time ? I took a numeracy mock test on level 2 and I passed that, then I tried the level 3 and I knew that I wouldn?t pass as I am not at the Level 3 standard and he started saying here is the negative attitude again, I do not consider this a negative attitude its merely stating that I knew I wouldn?t be able to pass it as I am not to the Level 3 standard as I have took the Level 3 test before.

    Whilst at pms I had the chance to look at their database system, and then when I went back to the Training Centre I said to my trainer that I found the database confusing ? and again he said I was having a negative attitude, which I was not I was stating the fact that I found the database systems confusing as they were very complex.

    He also said that I am a very opinionated person, this I find very hard to understand as im a very open person ? I was even discussing his belief system with him, as I enjoy learning about different peoples beliefs ? If I were an opinionated person I would not wish to hear about someone else?s belief system and I would debate them with him which I did not, as I belief everyone should have their own beliefs and they shouldn?t be challenged as that would be challenging the persons foundations.

    I had an interview this week with gws which went well and he said the wanted to give me the placement starting this coming Monday, I said that I will attend the interview I had yesterday and would let him know today.

    Now yesterday I had the interview and all went well ? I had the interview with the manager whom relayed the information to the company owner ? now I said to them that I would not be able to have a placement there unless they said they would have the possibility of a job at the end ? now they reworded what I said to my trainer that I had told them to lie to get a placement there ? they also said I would not discuss one of my previous jobs at the CoLC which is false as I did discuss it ? I said that I was there to undertake my business nvq level 2 , then I said firstly I was in the planning department then I went into the housing department then I went into a building that the council part owns which is MW in which I was on reception ? I said whilst on the reception I was using 3 phone systems ? one for external calls looking after around 40 companies when they diverted there phones to us then 1 for internal calls from clients if they needed assistance, then from the main hq of the CoLC ? I then said that I also dealt with clients coming into the facility ? dealing with post ? packages for coming ? organising meetings and refreshments ? now I don?t consider this as i was not discussing this ? as I was talking about it and was informing of my previous duties ? he also mentioned whilst on reception did I have to actually discuss clients requests or did I just take messages ? said that I did both and I said for example with some web design companies within the business I was able to help them more as I have experience with web design.

    He also told my trainer that I was talking down to him as if I was greater than him ? which is also false as I purposely kept technical talk about web design to a minimum - I was also interested in the nvq the manager was undertaking as he and I both said me being in the company would help with him completing segments of his nvq in management ? so therefore as I was looking to help him and the business I cannot see how I was looking down on him. I also mentioned that I was dismissed from my last placement and I gave the reasons why ? and he said that he found it stupid that I would be dismissed for being too good at IT, me mentioned I was dismissed I thought would be a good thing as it is showing honesty and that is what most companies desire an honest person.

    Now this morning I went to Training and my trainer took me into a empty room and said all these things ? and also spoke to me in the exact manner he was describing me as being ? throughout this time here I have felt as if I am being trampled on and almost brought to the point of despair. I also mentioned when talking to my trainer about another trainee in the building that he himself called awkward ? so as I didn?t know his name I merely asked what area of work this awkward man was looking to be in and he starting saying it is none of your business ? and then he said he has been working since he was 17 and I said 17 back at him as I thought most people whom of his age started work at around 16, then he said there you go again you are questioning me to say that I am wrong to say that his facts and what he had written down were wrong ? where as I was just wondering as most people I knew from his age area started work at 16. Now he said to me that I was looking down at him and the guy and that the other guy I thought I was better than him and he said that he had far more qualifications than me.

    I then asked for my bus fare and left because I was dismissed (and I don?t know when I will be paid again on the job seekers allowance) , all this has been stressing me a lot and when he was talking down to me earlier I almost went over the edge and nearly crying as I do not expect when to be looking and trying hard to find a job to be bullied especially by the trainer.

    No doubt if I told you his name he would make up another story and reword everything I say as he always does. If you wish to contact me please do so via email ? I will be out trying to find a job so I don?t have to deal with him again ? plus I need one as thanks to him and everyone else I will have no money.

    Neil.
     
  2. yuppy

    yuppy Regular Member

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    dont skip work. id fire you if skipped work too. if people call in to a job that they are new at and then have their mom call in for them, i think they are skipping work.

    if you have a job you should call in yourself. It is not school.

    that really hurt my brain to read
     
  3. The Scarlet Pimp

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    tales like that are why i went into biz for myself! :D
    idiot bosses, moronic co-irkers, brainless managers... the bleat goes on.

    i said good-bye to all of that crap years ago! ha! ha! ha! ha!
     
  4. SlowNsteady

    SlowNsteady Registered Member

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    i agree, having your mother call you out is unprofessional. If this is a constant thing where people keep thinking you are being arrogant then maybe you should reevaluate how you speak to people. A lot of times it's not what you say, it's how you say it. It's the tone in your voice and body posture. Go into jobs with a studious mind. Don't flex your intelligence and creativity from the door, people will think you're a know it all and possibly worry about their own job. Wait til you get in and just be a yes man until you find the guy that really has the pull there. Buddy up with him and bs with him whenever you get the chance. Keep it light and not too much about work and then start throwing out your ideas. Being too enthused from the door is no good. Take it all in, evaluate who's the shmuck, who's the man and play it slow. slownsteady man, it's all about knowing your surroundings.
     
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  5. The Scarlet Pimp

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    what's the diff between having your ma call in for you,
    and having your wife call in for you...
     
  6. SlowNsteady

    SlowNsteady Registered Member

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    IDK, only time I would have my wife call in for me is if I was in the hospital or dead. Man up and make the call yourself, I just don't get it......
     
  7. fxmaster

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    Ermmm who else is going to ring up if you are seriously ill i know when i am ill i can't get out of bed or talk. So is your sister suppose to ring instead?
     
  8. SlowNsteady

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    lol I guess I'm just more man than any of you. I mean I've had the flu and strep and a bunch of shit, but nothing has prevented me from taking my phone and making a quick call. So if you were in this world all by yourself and had no one there to do your baby work, would you just stay in bed and just not call into your employer at all?
     
  9. Surgeon

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    I guess you made a mistake in talking too soon about Internet Marketing and how you know some stuff about it. I guess when we are listened, sometimes, we may be carried away to talk about what is in our heart. That is ok with people you trust, not with others. If you know some skills, show them to someone that you know you can unlikely surpass (like the big boss). Until you get that chance, you keep the things to yourself. You can use them, naturally, but don't talk about them with your co-workers, as they will feel threatened or think you are just bragging.
     
  10. lewi

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    few grammar mistakes like near the top the word 'took' should be 'taken'... was talking something about a level 3 test 4th paragraph down i think....

    other than that you do go on and on.... i would make a shorter version bullet pointing everything and using your marketing knowledge to make the reader continue to read down the page.... then a longer version encorporated or seperate if they want more information.... marketing knowledge and writting skills dont just start and end on the internet the more you use them offline the further in life you will get.