KGR Keywords and 100 articles - What's your expectation?

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Hey,
Have you tried KGR keywords before?

I am starting a niche site with around 100 articles, all targeted towards KGR Keywords.
What should one expect from 100 articles, in regards to traffic, revenue, etc?

Your experience?

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If I’m correct kgr keyword have 250 monthly searches, so into 100*250 is 25000 visitors plus you’ll rank for multiple other keywords too so more rankings I’ll also tag @Holzr even he can share his expertise
 
Is it a new domain? Or a domain with authority. After reading around with others experience, it seems having domain authority seems to help a lot.

Im gonna give a shot to KGR keywords too. Around 20 on an old site with some backlinks already there and a new domain.

I think one of the biggest issue with the KGR strategy is that we assume that when allintitle are low, we are going to rank easily. But, the reality is that if there is only 10 allintitle and those 10 are good sites and optimised for it, you are not gonna outrank with just content n a weak domain.

The other issue with some KGR keywords is that they often have weak monetary value. For eg: a vague informational term like why do babies do blah. Its hard to to get a good ROI on that even if you get traffic. But, if you get a good word like, what babyoil is the best or some otherterm where you can input affiliate links and monetise well, then thats much better.

I think if we can keep these two aspects in mind as well and then select the KGR keywords, we can expect good ranking as well as revenue.
 
Mr Positive said:
If I’m correct kgr keyword have 250 monthly searches, so into 100*250 is 25000 visitors plus you’ll rank for multiple other keywords too so more rankings I’ll also tag @Holzr even he can share his expertise
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Nice insight. I'm plugged in.
 
Mr Positive said:
If I’m correct kgr keyword have 250 monthly searches, so into 100*250 is 25000 visitors plus you’ll rank for multiple other keywords too so more rankings I’ll also tag @Holzr even he can share his expertise
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25k searches doesnt mean it will bring 25k visitors
If he ranks for all of those on the first position of page 1 even then he will get 25 to 30% of 25k
Do you think its likely that one can rank on position 1 for all the target KWs?
So it brings us to around 5 to 15% of the whole search volume if he ranks for all of em (a wild guess, as I dunno the niche and the type of queries he's targeting).
His traffic would also depend on the type of queries, if the snippet gives the user the info thats needed, no clicks.
 
oblivion19 said:
Is it a new domain? Or a domain with authority. After reading around with others experience, it seems having domain authority seems to help a lot.

Im gonna give a shot to KGR keywords too. Around 20 on an old site with some backlinks already there and a new domain.

I think one of the biggest issue with the KGR strategy is that we assume that when allintitle are low, we are going to rank easily. But, the reality is that if there is only 10 allintitle and those 10 are good sites and optimised for it, you are not gonna outrank with just content n a weak domain.

The other issue with some KGR keywords is that they often have weak monetary value. For eg: a vague informational term like why do babies do blah. Its hard to to get a good ROI on that even if you get traffic. But, if you get a good word like, what babyoil is the best or some otherterm where you can input affiliate links and monetise well, then thats much better.

I think if we can keep these two aspects in mind as well and then select the KGR keywords, we can expect good ranking as well as revenue.
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I don't think that's the main problem, I have some experience with KGR.

I'd say the biggest problem, and it's going to get worse, is googles algorithm is getting better at detecting relevancy, which automatically decreases the accuracy of title tags, since the same concept but different wording wont show up in "Allintitle:" Therefor you are not getting an accurate view.
 
Mr Positive said:
If I’m correct kgr keyword have 250 monthly searches, so into 100*250 is 25000 visitors plus you’ll rank for multiple other keywords too so more rankings I’ll also tag @Holzr even he can share his expertise
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Yeah, but that can be counted as the overall audience available rather than the total search traffic visiting the site.
It can be a better ball-park stat to go after because the site will also rank for various other related keywords.
Thanks for commenting, bot @Mr Positive

oblivion19 said:
Is it a new domain? Or a domain with authority. After reading around with others experience, it seems having domain authority seems to help a lot.

Im gonna give a shot to KGR keywords too. Around 20 on an old site with some backlinks already there and a new domain.

I think one of the biggest issue with the KGR strategy is that we assume that when allintitle are low, we are going to rank easily. But, the reality is that if there is only 10 allintitle and those 10 are good sites and optimised for it, you are not gonna outrank with just content n a weak domain.

The other issue with some KGR keywords is that they often have weak monetary value. For eg: a vague informational term like why do babies do blah. Its hard to to get a good ROI on that even if you get traffic. But, if you get a good word like, what babyoil is the best or some otherterm where you can input affiliate links and monetise well, then thats much better.

I think if we can keep these two aspects in mind as well and then select the KGR keywords, we can expect good ranking as well as revenue.
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Yup, it's a new domain, but if I could be fortunate enough to find an expired/domain, I will surely go with that.
Google algorithm is a pain, I am absolutely with what @Dark Sky said.

rudrapada said:
25k searches doesnt mean it will bring 25k visitors
If he ranks for all of those on the first position of page 1 even then he will get 25 to 30% of 25k
Do you think its likely that one can rank on position 1 for all the target KWs?
So it brings us to around 5 to 15% of the whole search volume if he ranks for all of em (a wild guess, as I dunno the niche and the type of queries he's targeting).
His traffic would also depend on the type of queries, if the snippet gives the user the info thats needed, no clicks.
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Got your point.
Thanks :)
 
Mr Positive said:
If I’m correct kgr keyword have 250 monthly searches, so into 100*250 is 25000 visitors plus you’ll rank for multiple other keywords too so more rankings I’ll also tag @Holzr even he can share his expertise
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This doesn´t mean he will get 25,000 visitors.

A keyword monthly search volume metric is just a weighted average of how many times a search query was used on a particular search engine on a set time-frame.

In order to determine the traffic potential of these keywords, we need to calculate the "clicks" they would generate and, this depends on the ability of each of those keywords to rank on position 1, 2, 5, 10 or if they get stuck on page 4 of Google.

This is why on Google Search Console we get impressions and clicks, we need to treat them separately.

@RealDaddy Ahrefs offers a "traffic" metric that can be helpful in order to determine the "business" value of these keywords.

On the other hand, KGR compliant keywords will most likely be long-tail keywords so, this will greatly favor their ability to generate traffic for your site because you will be also targeting plenty of other variations of that same keyword.
 
Roger Marquez said:
Ahrefs offers a "traffic" metric that can be helpful in order to determine the "business" value of these keywords.
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Actually it doesn't show the traffic metric for very low volume keywords [KGR keywords] :)
And even if it shows, it's mostly 0.
 
I had a site which was amazon affiliate site, its successfully ranked for KGR term (Longtail 7words) 200 SV and the allintitle is just 8, 1 year back there was authority sites ranking for the same keyword but now it's ranking since 1 year and its cpc is $4.
So what I say is even if there are high authority sites ranking for KGR terms you write better content, my post is 4200 words long with nice images and videos which was an amazon affiliate site.
You guys can't believe the single keyword made me $500 and it's still rank #1.
 
I don't know, seriously.

Mixed results at my end, some longtail generating none?! Others sub-broad and micro niche getting 50% CTR.

strange :O
 
RealDaddy said:
$500/monthly or till now?
BTW, that's a great ROI in any case.
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I'm saying till now, not monthly.
However I sold the site and now planning to build another site with KGR content soon.
The best part of that site was the DA is just 18 till today, below that there were pet sites like chewy, feeline were ranking.
I belive Google love fresh long content and forget about DA, PA.
 
destinywakes said:
I had a site which was amazon affiliate site, its successfully ranked for KGR term (Longtail 7words) 200 SV and the allintitle is just 8, 1 year back there was authority sites ranking for the same keyword but now it's ranking since 1 year and its cpc is $4.
So what I say is even if there are high authority sites ranking for KGR terms you write better content, my post is 4200 words long with nice images and videos which was an amazon affiliate site.
You guys can't believe the single keyword made me $500 and it's still rank #1.
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200 search volume, $4 cpc and generated $500 in 12 months ranked at number 1?
How many visitors did you get per month for the key word?
 
SamLewis said:
200 search volume, $4 cpc and generated $500 in 12 months ranked at number 1?
How many visitors did you get per month for the key word?
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I get above 1000 pageviews a month, yes it's sometimes be on featured snippet and #1, sometimes #1.
 
There's so many factors involved, but a while back I made a post about valuing keywords. Here's a quick and dirty formula you can use:

Monthly Search Volume * 0.3 * 0.4 * 0.05 * (Product Price * Commision rate, e.g. $100 x 6% = 100 x 0.06 = $6)
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Ranking number one will usually result in you ranking for a lot of keywords. In which case, monthly search volume is going to be considerably higher. In fact, for the keyword, I use below (best juicer) the top ranking page ranks for 2,316 keywords which bring in ~ 8,199 traffic. In which case would give a value of the page to $737.91 (compared to $378 from the calculations in the example below).
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I highly reccomened giving my article a read. Revenue will depend on:

  • Commission rate
  • Organic CTR
  • CTR to Amazon etc.
  • Conversion rate on Amazon etc.
  • Average product price
Promoting a $1,000 product at 5% fee = $50 earnings. One sale a week = $200 per month for 1 keyword that might be a long tail review keyword or long tail best x for x etc. style keyword with only 100 searches a month. This is why examing value is much more important than just search volume. 100 articles in a high value niche can be a nice earner.
 
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