1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Keyword density question

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by troublie, May 7, 2011.

  1. troublie

    troublie Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2011
    Messages:
    215
    Likes Received:
    11
    Location:
    Brasil
    Hi guys,

    I am trying to understand this hope get some help here.

    I have 1 site which its very new (2 weeks old) and 2 unique articles in it. Platform is WP.

    I wrote the articles myself SEO optimized for 1 main keyword. The thing is, when I go to a keyword density analyzer tool, it gave me 18% of my main keyword density (whole domain, not deep link and this includes meta tags, description, visible text, alt text and etc). From what I read this is very very high correct?

    My domain is an EMD and I am trying to figure out how to lower this density, and all I came up with is writting more and more articles related to my niche but not optimized to my main keyword. Am I getting the point here? This will not hurt my SERP on my main keyword right?

    Thanks in advance!
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2011
  2. proxified

    proxified Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2009
    Messages:
    183
    Likes Received:
    388
    Occupation:
    still exploring
    Location:
    India
    18% keyword density? Every 5th word on your website is your keyword? :D

    Are you sure the keyword density checking tool you're using is not broken? Tried using seo doctor?
     
  3. kingn0thing

    kingn0thing Registered Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2010
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    5
    very correct, haaa.

    this is VERY high.
    see if the tool is faulty, and if not, cut down on the KWs a little bit :D
     
  4. troublie

    troublie Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2011
    Messages:
    215
    Likes Received:
    11
    Location:
    Brasil
    I did not used SEO doctor yet, will look for that right now. But since I am new to this on page SEO and everything, let`s assume that I made my whole website on that keyword and the 18% are correct, which I think they are, because I simply got an EMD, and wrote 2 unique articles optimized for that keyword (pretty much everything on my site has the keyword, alt text, tags, links, title and etc.) Do my last questions proceed?

    Im using a SEO plugin for my written articles and keyword density on each one are around 1.5% with my main keyword. The problem I think is that the whole site is getting optimized for just 1 keyword and this is stuffing the KW density.

    Also sorry for my english Im from Brazil.
     
  5. proxified

    proxified Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2009
    Messages:
    183
    Likes Received:
    388
    Occupation:
    still exploring
    Location:
    India
    I suppose you're probably using a wrong tool to evaluate as its evaluating your whole site for the keyword while it should only be evaluating the page which you're looking for. Use wp plugins as seopresser, wp easy seo, wp seo beast for on-page optimization and wordpress seo by yoast for on-site optimization. For further on-page and on-site optimization use seo doctor addon for your browser

     
  6. fakedream

    fakedream Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    On the Earth
    I think you are going in a right way. and it will not affect your SERP on your main keyword.
     
  7. freeufcdotinfo

    freeufcdotinfo Power Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2008
    Messages:
    685
    Likes Received:
    155
    I have used several tool for this - all give different results - is there a standard tool
     
  8. ani110

    ani110 Newbie

    Joined:
    May 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    The Keyword density consideration for site optimization is 3-5%. If it would be more, definitely your ranking will affect on SERP. So try to maintain your density using a good tool.
     
  9. troublie

    troublie Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2011
    Messages:
    215
    Likes Received:
    11
    Location:
    Brasil
    That's very weird because trying different tools now it gave me something around 3~5% which is fine.
    I just think it's weird because I have some SEO plugins installed on my WP and I just follow every single step/tip (like title with KW, H1 H2 and H3 tag with KW, KW in bold, 2 or 3 times on the text and etc) to SEO optimize the articles, but when I just look to my whole site I think the KW shows up too much.

    The tool that gave me that much is hxxp://www(d0t)keyworddensity(d0t)c0m
    anyone can help me to check if this tool is wrong?
     
  10. Shhhocker

    Shhhocker Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2010
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    19
    The SEO Quake add-on for Firefox has a pretty nice keyword density checker. Gives you a report of the density of one, two, three, four, etc. word phrases.
     
  11. Chrisss

    Chrisss Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2011
    Messages:
    842
    Likes Received:
    172
    Location:
    BHW
    You need to lower that no. if you want to rank.

    You wrote the answer yourself - write some more stuff.

    Now get into action :)
     
  12. shesdead

    shesdead Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Messages:
    1,436
    Likes Received:
    846
    Location:
    Europe
    Home Page:
  13. atxb09

    atxb09 Newbie

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    2
    easy wp seo can handle the keyword density calculation directly in wp dashboard. it provides two type of kw density calculation.
     
  14. Autumn

    Autumn Elite Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2010
    Messages:
    2,197
    Likes Received:
    3,041
    Occupation:
    I figure out ways to make money online and then au
    Location:
    Spamville
    Your target density varies from niche to niche and keyword to keyword. Your best bet is to pick one tool and run it over the top 10 in the keyword / niche you want to target - that will show you the general ballpark you should be aiming for. The actual density itself and how you measure it is irrelevant - whatever tool you use to measure, you just want your pages to measure the same as the pages in the top 10.

    You'll frequently find pages ranking well that have very high densities with very low amounts of total text, and either great backlinks or an EMD. An example I stumbled on the other day: makemoneyonline.com
     
  15. DamageX

    DamageX Elite Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    2,692
    Likes Received:
    1,687
    Occupation:
    Unemployable
    Location:
    Former nomad
    I wouldn't fret too much about KW density. Quality backlinks are much more important.
     
  16. Cambridge

    Cambridge BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2011
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    2
    Yes but if the content is with that keyword density, do you think someone would want to read it?
     
  17. DamageX

    DamageX Elite Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    2,692
    Likes Received:
    1,687
    Occupation:
    Unemployable
    Location:
    Former nomad
    It totally depends on the context. Usually the longer the text, the lower the KW density. So if you have a bunch of short, yet useful texts, I don't see why people wouldn't read them. In such cases KW density tends to be higher than the 3-5% advocated by the SEO community, without necessarily diminishing the quality of the text. In which case it becomes close to irrelevant, provided you have good quality backlinks pointing to the page in question.
     
  18. Mayas

    Mayas Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2009
    Messages:
    226
    Likes Received:
    10
    If you are using wp then there is a plugin clickbump which can help you in determining right density level.
     
  19. troublie

    troublie Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2011
    Messages:
    215
    Likes Received:
    11
    Location:
    Brasil
    Hi all,

    thanks for the tips! I have seo clickbump and all of my articles are OK according with the plugin, the plugin also give me low keyword density for all of the articles, I keep the KW density on each article around 1.5~2%. Thats why I was shocked at first with that tool that gave me 18% KW density on my whole site.

    Articles are 300 to 500 words long. Guess that tool was faulty.

    I am kind of new at this and spend 4 months just reading and learning from BHW, now I have some projects going on, already bought scrapebox (which I am starting to learn) and I'm not afraid of failing on my first project because I'm learning a lot.
     
  20. asharma

    asharma Junior Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2009
    Messages:
    189
    Likes Received:
    90
    Haha, I was wondering why you were getting such a high number. Eighteen percent would be way overwhelming. What tool were you using before that was giving you the high number?