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Issue of Link Pyramids -> Google Dance -> Rank down!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by andishm, Jan 13, 2013.

  1. andishm

    andishm Regular Member Premium Member

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    I tried to create 4-5 times link pyramid for my website, every time i create a pyramid my website ranks gets up within a week time or so then after google dance starts and after 10-15 days ranks are down and back to same place or sometime more worst than previous.

    I am really tired of this wrost google dance issue as i never won the good rankings after pyramid. Due to this dance issue at the end dance always ends with the loss of lower ranks... only..

    I generally create 2 / 3 tier link building in pyramid.

    I know that this forum is having lots of experienced users and I am really need honorable member's suggestion on what kind of plan i shall carry out to have such google dance ends with good rankings for me ?

    Will wait for your suggestions
     
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  2. andishm

    andishm Regular Member Premium Member

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    No Reply yet?

    I am sure this forum is full of senior member who can provide their vaulable suggestions . I will be helpful if anyone can suggest on what shall we do in google dance failing all time after different pyramids.
     
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    You haven't given any where near enough information for anyone to give you a reasoned reply.

    What is you site?
    Hows old is it?
    What niche is it in?
    How much content is on it?
    How good is the content?
    Do you use multimedia?
    What is your competition?
    Do your competition indulge in active SEO themselves?
    What is your current backlink profile?
    How do you commercialize? (makes a BIG difference to SEO these days)
    Where do you place links?
    What content do you use for links?
    How quickly do you create links?
    What anchor text do you use?
    What platform spread do you use?


    Anyone who gives you firm advice without knowing most of this information is a bullshitter. There is no "one size fits all" in SEO. Without detail you might as well be asking "which way will my piss spray in a strong wind".
    As it stands the only firm answers you will get for the information you've provided will be from noobs and bullshitters.

    Scritty
     
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  4. andishm

    andishm Regular Member Premium Member

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    Hows old is it? ans: 7 yrs old site with SEOMOZ 60 domain authority and PR3
    What niche is it in? - web hosting
    How much content is on it? - 30-40 pages
    How good is the content? - good one
    Do you use multimedia? - No
    What is your competition? - Very high
    Do your competition indulge in active SEO themselves? - Yes competitors too do seo
    What is your current backlink profile? - I have million links backlink profile in 7 years
    How do you commercialize? (makes a BIG difference to SEO these days) - online ecommerce portal
    Where do you place links? - i generally create web 2.0 blogs in pyramid and other all types of links
    What content do you use for links? - Spun content 70-80% spun
    How quickly do you create links? - Regularly 10-50 links per day approx. generally but sometime i donot create any backlinks for few days but no big delay of months
    What anchor text do you use? - I have good anchor text diversity
    What platform spread do you use? - all available online tools and platforms

    I will wait for your valuable suggestions...
     
  5. andishm

    andishm Regular Member Premium Member

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    Will any senior BHW members place their feedback or suggestions on my issue. I am seriously feeling nervousness since i was having hope that here on this forum there shall be many senior people which may help me with this. But yet not suggestions... :(
     
  6. RealEcon

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    Ok man heres your problem.

    Its really easy to fix.

    #1Setup a CMS like WP in a Silo structure.

    #2Write good detailed content like wikipedia.

    #3Make good detailed wikipedia quality content backlinks to your site. (or not, backlinks are really optional with Googles current algo)

    #4Watch your site magically rise in the serps, while all the current SEO experts, shake their heads in wide eyed wonder.

    Edit: Oh I forgot, you have probably penguinized your domain with all those crap content linkwheel links. So you may need a new clean domain, if you cant remove those linkwheel links.
     
  7. andishm

    andishm Regular Member Premium Member

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    I never used link wheels however i used link pyramids, do you think that link pyramids are no more working is this ?
     
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    maybe your tier1 links lost page rank ?
     
  9. RealEcon

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    Sorry I meant pyramids. Yeah those kinds of links worked well with Google before March 2012. But now with the current Google algo, you dont need those links. Just follow the method Ive outlined and you will start ranking.
     
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    andishm Regular Member Premium Member

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    My Tier 1 was recently created then i created tier 2 and tier3 for that tier1 so even my all those tier 1 were having 0 PR since they were recently itself created.
     
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    andishm Regular Member Premium Member

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    1. My site is already setup in wordpress and internal linking is well good.

    2. Ok, i will try to add new content on regular basis on our website as suggested.

    3. Please describe in details do you mean contextual backlinks to my blog post which i creates on my website is this ? What sort of backlink do you suggest.

    4. I will touch your feet if this works. I am really in very bad position since all where failures coming Please do suggest in details about backlink part as on page content i can manage at best i know :)
     
  12. andishm

    andishm Regular Member Premium Member

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    Will any senior BHW member please share their view on my issue?
    I hope many others also may be having such issues and thus this thread can not only help me but also shall be an informative discussion for others too...

    Please seniors share your feedback or suggestions...
     
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    Web Hosting is a real hard niche, you need a lot of quality backlinks to rank on this niche for long.
    I Suggest to start with Directory submission on this niche ( i know its an ld method but it will give your website power to stand in comp)
    Also take social votes on your tier 1 links. (real social votes from excahngers) not from fake or new accounts.
     
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    Also i have done a lot of work on this niche many years ago, even i created more 50 blogspots with unique content on seprate emails. But they don't exist now. See the below attached picture. This was one of my early bird ages work :)

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    andishm Regular Member Premium Member

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    First of all thanks for replying to my thread, Since you know my domain name is having huge backlink profile as well as anchor text diversity and good domain and page authority that is why after making the pyramid my ranks always gets up like a sky rocket :)

    But as i mentioned after that 10-14 days it maintains and then dance starts and more or less it goes back to where it was.

    I am not sleeping in meantime i am trying to create as many as diversified sources of tier1 to have a mixed nature of backlink profile to hide my pyramid but so far after 3-5 tries on different occasions I am still not able to have my ranks stable on tops.

    While my competitors they do mass spam Chinese pages spam comments etc and they are ranking well even their ranks never fluctuates as fast as my rank does.

    Any suggestion what shall be done post creating a pyramid?
     
  16. andishm

    andishm Regular Member Premium Member

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    Will any senior BHW member please share their view on it. I know that after google penguin update its always recommended and every one do Tiered link building and having link pyramid is also one of kind of tiered link structure itself.

    Will any senior BHW member share their view on my issue of google dance eating up the ranks.
     
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    I will ask one thing from you OP..

    Anchor Text Ratio..
     
  18. andishm

    andishm Regular Member Premium Member

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    My website is having a huge diversity of anchor text and generic hyperlinks even it passed all penguin refreshes since i have maintained good anchor text diversity.

    I hope to have more suggestions from honorable BHW senior members.
     
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    Try some sape links
     
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    andishm Regular Member Premium Member

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    Mickyfu will you please mention in details what do you mean by saying "Sape Links" ?
    Sorry i have no idea as of now what do you mean by SAPE LINKS it will be helpful if you can tell in details...