What you're saying reminds me of that ***** post where it said that the collapse won't happen quick, it's simply gonna happen over years and most people won't even see it happening in front of their own eyes. There will be no "collapse" the way some of these people think of it. It's not going to be like the movie "Dawn of the Dead" or whatever where one day suddenly shit hits the fan and the 50 coming marching down the street."The Hollow Men" by TS Eliot and you'll understand.You'll notice that every day simple things will become a little more expensive. Everyone's homes and apartments start getting smaller. Your work hours will get longer, but your pay will decrease. You'll see family standards for everything, work, food, relationships, etc. Jobs security will no longer exist - a concept. You'll notice houses and apartments shrinking, people will hang on to clothing longer and longer. Less people will get married while never truly experiencing the real world.Whatever dream people used to have about their lives will be gone to be replaced by a distant memory. The only thing left for them will be the reality of their debt and their poverty. And every minute of every day they will be told, "You are stupid, ugly, weak, but together we are free, prosperous, and safe."That is the collapse. The reduction of the American man into a feudal serf, incapable of feeling love or hate, incapable of seeing the pitiful nature of his situation for what it is or recognizing his own self worth.