Is this the end?

Guys this is the END!
Its DEAD forever..
You can only believe 2 people in this thead and thats me and freakingout.

My guy inside ig told me in private that I sell my accounts before the info gets out.
I had to pay that guy a lot of money over the years..
Because it's dead I don't care sharing this private info with you.

Here is a link to the source / proof:
https://goo.gl/PrTjBb
Wow!
 
Guys this is the END!
Its DEAD forever..
You can only believe 2 people in this thead and thats me and freakingout.

My guy inside ig told me in private that I sell my accounts before the info gets out.
I had to pay that guy a lot of money over the years..
Because it's dead I don't care sharing this private info with you.

Here is a link to the source / proof:
https://goo.gl/PrTjBb

wow wtf is this... i was expecting a troll link.
what does this mean? are you saying the situation is serious enoug h that you are quitting botting? :(

I see now that xWGx said the same thing here :(

http://blackhatworld.com/seo/how-to-get-out-of-the-challenge-verification-loop-on-instagram.992747/page-19#post-10647790
http://blackhatworld.com/seo/how-to-get-out-of-the-challenge-verification-loop-on-instagram.992747/page-19#post-10648314
 
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I actually mentioned a few months ago that IG is using AI to detect bots and spammers. But was wash aside as nonsense by fellow member here. AI is learning faster and faster everyday as it is being fed with more data. It is impossible to beat AI since any update to exploit is done almost in real time. I think going forward even manual following/unfollowing will not work since the AI is picking up signs of similarity to spammers. So a real user will not be following more than 100 a day based upon binomial distribution (statistics). So basically IG is solving problem at its root cause since marketers will not find it profitable to follow less than 100 accounts per day per account. Bearing in mind the cost of managing the accounts goes higher as you manage more IG accounts.

I have to agree with OP that it is the end of the game for IG marketers if AI is involved. Even if an exploit can be found, it get closed after a day or two making it impossible to rake in enough profits to justify the cost. No wonder I am seeing so many bot seller BST on BHW nowadays.

for your average joe botter that is true but for bigger sharks if you can f/uf 20day its allready profit.
 
Does anyone have problems with their accounts on FollowLiker?
 
So assuming IG is really flagging accounts that it knows botted, what do you think the real daily action limits and patterns that are still safe?

I can’t see IG flagging accounts that like 100 pictures per day. Should we be follow/unfollowing 100 per day? 200? Or we have no idea?
 
Does anyone have problems with their accounts on FollowLiker?
Yes, FL isn’t properly unfollowing accounts for me. In the statistics, it says it followed 400, unfollowed 400, yet has more followings than the day before. Which is obviously impossible.
 
What if you stop botting?
read below

There will always be a way.

A couple days ago i posted a track record of an account that I suspected was botting. It is very easy to detect bot behavior trust me. The reason why ig might have taken a year or more is that they are not allowed to make mistakes. Some botters are just plain stupid and want G's/fame way too quick. maybe that ig-api was low-key released by ig itself and devs jumped right into a trap by building their platforms on top of it and we followed. However as their anti-spam gets smarter bots(it bugs me evry time i say bot because ig is a bot itself ... ) will most def get smarter as well. Thats why they will always leave room for bots to operate. Why? because ai constantly needs data to improve.. I am fairly confident that devs will find a way round it. Yall just need to chill for a bit
 
Tumblr made it even faster, without this long dancing with data collecting.
In 2016 May they just started ban ALL spammers + additionally ghostban them between weekly real bans.
 
Let's get back to the basics - exploiting human psychology (aka social engineering).
Let other people spam for you.

lol what, how do we do that?

Yes, FL isn’t properly unfollowing accounts for me. In the statistics, it says it followed 400, unfollowed 400, yet has more followings than the day before. Which is obviously impossible.


hmm i read many reports of problems like yours....... many threads about new bot limits even after just the 1st spam action... maybe our accs are really flagged like they siad? is this thread related? does this problem sound familiar to you?? https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/gmt2-temporary-block-unable-to-perform-action.994451/
 
Yeah, just because a certain method has changed and isn't as lucrative as before, doesn't mean Instagram as a whole is dead. Sometimes in marketing, it's easy to get stagnant or lazy and just stay repetitive. Gotta evolve our strategies at times!
 
I think most of that is bullshit, if they wanted to do something they could have done it a lot faster. Also, they know that if they stop all botting accounts the actual engagement and usage of their platform will drop radically. It's all speculation and fear, they do want to trim it down, true, but they would never want to remove botting entirely as it wouldn't be in their best interest.
 
I think most of that is bullshit, if they wanted to do something they could have done it a lot faster. Also, they know that if they stop all botting accounts the actual engagement and usage of their platform will drop radically. It's all speculation and fear, they do want to trim it down, true, but they would never want to remove botting entirely as it wouldn't be in their best interest.

Agree With This .

You See Instagram Isn't Worried Abt People Using Bots To Grow Niche Accs , They Are More Interested In Taking Down Anythin Which Which Has CPA Link - Kinda Spam i.e Empty Profiles With No Posts But A Link In Bio And Following 1000s Of People.
Well You Should Know What Your Doing Isn't Right So You Should Be Prepared For Facing Bans , AI, Evolved Anti Spam System Or Not.

Others Who Are Normally Growing Accs For Shoutouts/Any Other Purpose Are Getting In The Cross Fire Is Cause Of Very Aggressive Settings,Low Quality Proxies,Jumping From Proxy To Proxy. I Know That Y'all Wanna Grow Fast But Following & Unfollowing 500+ Each Day Liking , Commenting Running Accs 20+Hrs A Day Is Considered SPAM. Your Abusing The Service And Ur Being Punished.

Keep The Settings Low , Slow Growth Is Still Growth .. Remember Your Trying To Reduce What Work You Would Have To Do Manually And Not Looking To Abuse.

Close Your Bot When They Aren't Being Used , Run Them Only For Certain Hours.
Use Automation As A Replacement For Your Work , Stop Botting After You Reach 15-20K Start Growing Organically (When You Still Can).
 
Finally the giant beast is moving.. time to move to other platform before I get vaporized by Ultima bomb.
Although we don't know if the intel is from official, honestly, I think the end is near :(
Let us not forget what happened to Youtube.
The antispam powered by ML technology is far, FAR more devastating than you could have ever imagined :eek:
I'll not debate it's power here, kindly do your own research on Google ;)

Yes, they have enough firepower backed by FB
So now what? We just wait for the storm coming and face our doomed destiny?
HELL NO, it is mankind's holy nature to fight against whatever adversity is there (even if we are seen as bad spammers to their eyes, we have our own reasons)

Let them build their majesty ML algo and celebrate their illusion of victory for 5 years.
Meanwhile, very few, still well determined & deserved will silently prepare massive counter attacks, reclaiming the lo--ng forgotten territory what was once theirs. (this i want to see)

Yes, it would be almost impossible to bypass the new antispam-ML, but surprisingly, all the bot does is moderating instead of human, and human can be fooled by human.
Creativity is the key, possibly this is the last remaining secret weapon in this new era of marketing.

Google, FB, IG, they are one of the biggest emerging threats for mankind, not only IM industry.
They are very greedy and they need more and more money to expand their realm.
They will wipe out everyone on their path. They will subdue us, make us pay for them. To be worst, I think this is just the beginning, there's no one that could stop them.

It's too sad to see they are dominating the internet, dominating the world. I was never fan of any kind of monopoly.
It was the balance of system to make humans to be as of now. Without the balance, the system will eventually be broken. Remember the history of wars. It didn't happen without reasons.

First, you better move out of hot zone before it's too late.
Then you prepare the long-term plan for surprise retaliation. After all, you will have to face them sooner or later. Don't forget Google is everywhere. You can't avoid them.
Plan your strategy wisely. Only the best will survive.
I can see BIG waves are coming :eek:
Don't get caught to be killed. ;)

Calm down warrior, you are talking like doing something holy. IG is doing this to protect their platform from the people, there are many of them here, who use bots with hundreds of accounts and crapping everywhere with pointless auto comments and f/unf method.

I use FL too but not for spammy activities or for hundreds of accounts. I do only likes and scraping stuff with several accounts of mine. Now I can't do it anymore because of the greedy people who wants easy money instead of creating something with value.
 
Until IG allow to create account and follow/like other users and the users can see notifications - there will be solution to do the actions automatically.
 
Bs. Nothing going to change. Even though it seems logical its complete non sense.. Maybe the methods now will be limited and harder to do.. But its not the end. There are always back doors and exploties they will contiue fighting and we'll continue occupy thier workers with more job to do. Once or twice a year they release such notes.... Happend in the past will happen in the future thier systems might work great but they are not perfect nothing is perfect.. They still have shit ton of job to be done meanwhile relax and do your thing guys.

Btw this article is indexed.. Keep your methods to yourself and dont talk about that here. They are everywhere! XD
 
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