Is this the end?

freakingout said:
omg really? fuck :(

i came here because i was desperate with 200 accounts trapped in checkpoint loop and needed help. and I've read everything i can find from every forum and github… i trust real developers who hack the api a lot more than some random retard "daddykins" here.....

what should I do? you seem to understand this and can maybe explain what is the best idea.... if this is really antispam (it looks like it, it blocked my server ips but not my home ips)........ i am tired of this.... should I try to quickly dump (sell) my accounts now before their value drops and just forget about this before bot accounts lose all value? or should I wait and hope for a fix and try to use them for something else? what is your best idea on this?
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You should sell them now.
 
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Bots will allways be there no matter how hard they want to stop them, same happened with poker , big poker sites started to ban all the bots and collect their data and they had AI to detect bot behaivour so what happened? they wiped out all the bad bots but they cant detect the good and private ones
 
MightySlav said:
If they want "spamming" to stop why not just set daily action limit for every account. Let's say 30 follows and unfollows, couple hundred likes, and some comments. Why they let users do thousands of actions in a first place. It's like they let us play and waste our time then see who played too hard and ban them. Fucking dicks.
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I agree
 
MightySlav said:
If they want "spamming" to stop why not just set daily action limit for every account. Let's say 30 follows and unfollows, couple hundred likes, and some comments. Why they let users do thousands of actions in a first place. It's like they let us play and waste our time then see who played too hard and ban them. Fucking dicks.
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Who's going to use a platform that sets limitations? I know I'd stop using or use less of it if I got blocked from doing things the app is pretty much built around.

Did you read Instagram's TOS before signing up? You agreed to it before signing up. So you already knew there's a chance of getting banned. Why complain about the rules you agreed upon?
 
Is this the end? No, it's just beginning. Honestly I don't care even if they implement the best AI system in the world they will still need to leave space for normal users. That space can be always used, it will just be harder but still possible.
 
Alex D. said:
Is this the end? No, it's just beginning. Honestly I don't care even if they implement the best AI system in the world they will still need to leave space for normal users. That space can be always used, it will just be harder but still possible.
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Finally a sign of hope..... So what do you suggest? growing accounts by hand and marketing from it when it has enough followers?
 
freakingout said:
Finally a sign of hope..... So what do you suggest? growing accounts by hand and marketing from it when it has enough followers?
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If instagram API becomes impossible to use then there is option for something like this also it can be done without real phone devices.
 
knaitas said:
awesome!!! Less competition on instagram it means ;)
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My thought too! Now, I'm even more happy that I have organically built a large account! Hopefully, the growth will rise after the botting situation has been "sorted out".
 
Kingu Buraddorei said:
You hit the nail on the head. But you don't have to do everything manually.

I still use bots. Bots that replicate human behavior.
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Alex D. said:
If instagram API becomes impossible to use then there is option for something like https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/my-700-phone-farm.989926/ also it can be done without real phone devices.
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thank you !! this gives me hope we will find a way even if api stops working because of easy detection :) as long as AI cannot catch those other methods? seems the key for future botting is: "be more human" hmm.... slower growth but better rewards for those who do it when all "stupid low quality bots" competition is gone
 
Kingu Buraddorei said:
Who's going to use a platform that sets limitations? I know I'd stop using or use less of it if I got blocked from doing things the app is pretty much built around.

Did you read Instagram's TOS before signing up? You agreed to it before signing up. So you already knew there's a chance of getting banned. Why complain about the rules you agreed upon?
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Exactly. People like me and you a.k.a "spammers" would stop using it, because we have to follow alot so when limits come we stop using it. But people who act like humans and don't follow fucking 800 accounts per day, they will be fine with limits. And by limits i mean limiting the unhuman behavior. And no IG obviously wasn't build for to do over thousand actions per day, why would they ban us then if it was build for that?

"Who's going to use a platform that sets limitations?" Also you acting like every user bots like crazy on IG.
You really think normal people would care if follow limit would be like 250 per day? i don't think so.

This is just one scenario that would get rid of some spammers, and as a "spammer" i hope it will never come reality.

Also i'm not complaining. I know what i started and thank god haven't got bans yet, just one acc in loop.
 
MightySlav said:
Exactly. People like me and you a.k.a "spammers" would stop using it, because we have to follow alot so when limits come we stop using it. But people who act like humans and don't follow fucking 800 accounts per day, they will be fine with limits. And by limits i mean limiting the unhuman behavior. And no IG obviously wasn't build for to do over thousand actions per day, why would they ban us then if it was build for that?

"Who's going to use a platform that sets limitations?" Also you acting like every user bots like crazy on IG.
You really think normal people would care if follow limit would be like 250 per day? i don't think so.

This is just one scenario that would get rid of some spammers, and as a "spammer" i hope it will never come reality.

Also i'm not complaining. I know what i started and thank god haven't got bans yet, just one acc in loop.
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True...... most normal users follow some friends and never add above 10-400 follows in their whole life, they could be ok with a limit like 10 per day. Insta obviously has data that show how real people act and real people (who are not 12 year olds that want big numbers) care about following quality accs and may add 0-5 per MONTH in normal cases. I dont think i have ever seen an account following thousands of accs who is not a spammer or really fake and "markety" looking

But lets hope instagram doesnt limit their platform just because of the bots. they must compete with snapchat so any new limits even if it affects 0.5% of all users could make some user angry and do damage to their company reputation, lets hope they are afraid of that and limits stay the way they are
 
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freakingout said:
omg really? fuck :(

i came here because i was desperate with 200 accounts trapped in checkpoint loop and needed help. and I've read everything i can find from every forum and github… i look for real info and trust real developers who hack the api a lot more than some random retard "daddykins" here who know nothing.....

what should I do? you seem to understand this and can maybe explain what is the best idea.... if this is really antispam (it looks like it, it blocked my server ips but not my home ips)........ i am tired of this.... should I try to quickly dump (sell) my accounts now before their value drops and just forget about this before bot accounts lose all value? or should I wait and hope for a fix and try to use them for something else? what is your best idea on this?
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Manually work on them? Even if there is a private bot that still works (which I believe so since there are so many SMM panels here) I doubt anyone will sell or disclose in public to prevent abuses.
 
So The So Called AI Needed A Year Or More To Learn That If Someone Does 1000 Or So Actions Per Day Is A Spammer o.O
When Kids Are Building Image Recognition Software Within Days, That AI Funded By Billion Dollar Company Needed A Year And More To Learn About Behavior ?
Normal Coding Is Enough To Flag Such Accounts And Ban Them If There's Repeating Of The Same .

Why Would Instagram Monitor Botted Accounts And Only Delete Botted Accounts With A CPA Link ?

But On The Other Hand Noone Should be Running Their Accounts For 20Hrs A Day Or Do Crazy Number Of Actions And Always Try To Stimulate Human Behavior.
If There Is Already An AI Getting Ready To Ban Spammers Why Even Have Follow/Like Blocks ?

Instagram Is Definitely Going To Be Harder In The Upcoming Days And Everyone Who Is Botting Should Be Already Aware Of That.

The AI Part Of It Just Doesn't Make Sense However Botting Is Gonna Stop Gradually And Not At One Stop , Imagine The Drop Of Monthly Active Users If That Happened.

The Verification Loop Might Have Happened To Many But Do Note Not All The Accounts Had It Which Were Under Automation, So What Does That Mean? The AI Failed To Detect Between Fake Users And Real :confused: ? And Instagram Doesn't Actually Know For A 100% All The Spammers ?
 
Don't give up guys there is a way my all 60 accounts are connected unfortunately i cannot share it but its out there and if you search properly you will find it. And if you do find do not share it with anyone because we have some snitches here
 
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