Is making money online just a scam?

iprobuser said:

answers are usually "learn a skill," "start a YouTube channel," "create a blog,"

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No one's going to spoon feed others. It's on you to read, learn and then take action. 95% of the threads ask generic questions how to make money online and then get generic answers.
I'll tell you what is a scam : making easy money online is a scam.

iprobuser said:

I've been on BHW for years and sometimes I follow the threads. Someone will ask if there's a way to make money, and the answers are usually "learn a skill," "start a YouTube channel," "create a blog," or some other automated AI response.
What I don't understand is why the answers are mostly the same and is making money online really a lie?

Do people actually make money online?

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I don't know how to answer to this question but I assume u are not earning money online and also assume you would need a way to live u are earning money offline.
So can u tell me how to make money offline?

I strongly agree that earning money from online isnot scam. What you do and how you it matters a lot. I am doing it to pay my bills and live a better life.

Making money online or offline is not a scam. Whether it is online or offline, it's the same. You gotta put in the work. You have to make it work. It is not easy whether online or offline.

Many people are ready to work hard offline but don't want to work hard online. Then conclude that it is an illusion or a scam. How can one say that?

Amazon is making money online. Google and Facebook too. Are they scamming? Definitely no.

Many individuals have been earning money online for decades now. I truly earned my first $200 online in 2005 when I promoted a program as an affiliate. I have sold information products online and made money. I have published short books on KDP Amazon and earned royalties for over 10 years. So I can positively say that one can earn money online and that it isno scam.

There are thousands of methods or ways to make money online. You have to choose a method (affiliate marketing, blogging, videos, Freelancing, etc.) and learn how it works. When you start, you stick to it, put in the works and stay there until it begins to work for you.

One illustration that I always give to my students is the case of an aircraft. Initially, it is so hard to move. It starts so slowly, even requiring a push to move an inch. Soon it begins to move slowly, gains speed and momentum, lifts itself into the sky and it is moving at great speed. At that point it's easy and the pilot/everyone can relax. It becomes so easy.

Aircrafts and the flying bird was considered an illusion less than 150 years ago. Today it's happening to making money online.

The truth is, making money online requires either time, skills, money, or connections and often, a mix of them. The problem is most newbies want a “method” that works instantly without understanding the grind behind it.

scam? well i felt like I was getting scammed by sellers in China on occasions when buying stock to sell on Amazon, but it still ended up being $10,000 a month turnover (1/3rd profit).

I often felt I was scamming myself when having to do SEO for my clients because I was working really hard, but after a couple of years, I had done a lot of terrifying client meet ups, cold calling and was making about the same as the Amazon business.

now id like a magic bullet please which means I dont have to do all this work.

Well i will put it like this. Many people that talk about liking finance dont use the basics. DRIP, MARGIN LOANS, BONDS, ETFS etc etc. NO DAY TRADING needed. You can make money doing nothing. But everybody doesnt wannna wait? Why, cause i tell you wait 20-30 years and youll buy a home. Its better then what your doing now, Which is paying into a mortgage most wont actually pay off. People need to become more financially astute. DONT TOUCH THE MONEY REINVEST IT ALL! DONT YOU DARE ITS FOR YOUR KIDS, KIDS, KIDS. Silly people push their money everywhere. Budget properly and dont be one of those people saying I wish I wish i wish. Dont ever spend frivolously. IF YOU CANT AFFORD HOLIDAYS OR PRESENTS DONT BUY! SIMPLES. NO CREDIT IF YOUC ANT HANDLE IT DONT USE.

My word, people are incredibly stubborn. BASICS, BASICS, BASICS. Just do the basics stop chasing fantasy money. people quote all these sayings but it all falls apart in their life. Like. No holdiday no takeaways no nothing. Just grind thats it. If you do 9-5 good on you if you have a business or are a financer whatever. But dont die and leave a burden on your poor children's head because you weren't financially stable. OK BLAH BLAH BLAH rant over...Just PLEASE dont go chasing loose change. In this world many of you maybe be smarter then me....Maybe wiser then me...Maybe be stronger and faster then me...But iam the tortoise and you all seem to be hares. LOL. Learn to go slow.

I will also say just do the basics first. Learn a skill a trade take a hobby make it pro. I don't think the gig economy mindset will work to become a millionaire/billionaire whatever 'anire doing too many things expecting results stay in your domain first. Then expand.

I have been making money online since the early 2000s : affiliate junk, shady CPA, tarot hotlines, phone sex, ClickBank, ewhoring/texting, adsense , freelance SEO (mostly technical), affiliate for respectable brands through my websites... you name it. Some of it I pushed, some I half-started (faceless YouTube never got past setup but which I repurposed ). My point is: yes, money online is 100% real and no, it’s not passive: “easy money” is where people get scammed. Everything I ever made came from testing, grinding, pivoting, and working at it: exactly like an offline business.


One more thing: people who do make money online usually have their own methods/tricks, and they’re not going to drop them on a public forum because the second it’s out there, it gets abused by idiots with no stealth or finesse, packaged by gurus, and burned. That’s also why most “quick money” methods you see posted are already at the end of their life cycle, sold around as a last squeeze before they die out.

added: If anyone finds that “20 minutes to Caribbean beach + cabana boy” method, DM me first.

There is a golden quote which you need to follow YOU NEED MONEY TO MAKE THE NEW MONEY.

iprobuser said:

I've been on BHW for years and sometimes I follow the threads. Someone will ask if there's a way to make money, and the answers are usually "learn a skill," "start a YouTube channel," "create a blog," or some other automated AI response.
What I don't understand is why the answers are mostly the same and is making money online really a lie?

Do people actually make money online?

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The reason the answers appear the same is because, making money online and offline involves providing goods or services that people are willing to give you more for. It's that simple.

So you'll ultimately need to learn something if you don't know anything at all to work with. Thinking that making money involves anything else asides sale of goods and/or services is where you make mistake.

You must provide something people are willing to give you money for.

Making money online isn’t a scam, but the “get rich quick” narrative definitely is. Most people quit because they expect results overnight, and when it doesn’t happen, they assume it’s fake.

I can tell you from personal experience that it is possible, I’ve had days where I made lot of money just from online work. But it didn’t happen by chance, it came from testing, failing, and sticking to one method long enough to see results.

The truth is: people really do make money online, but it requires patience, trial/error, and sometimes being willing to do what most others won’t.

Action. That's all it is.

I see that people who don't make money online only think it's a scam because or ignorance or because their lack of action found then with no success.

It's not like working a regular job where you do X and are guaranteed some kind of money at the end of it. Anything can happen in this game, and for most? They lose.

all people here earn money online

iprobuser said:

I've been on BHW for years and sometimes I follow the threads. Someone will ask if there's a way to make money, and the answers are usually "learn a skill," "start a YouTube channel," "create a blog," or some other automated AI response.
What I don't understand is why the answers are mostly the same and is making money online really a lie?

Do people actually make money online?

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I've been around for a while. I like to lurk and learn. Let me give you a quick breakdown of a website I have owned for over 12 years that I just recently sold to a big dealership for a fair and substantial number, due to it's lead generation it produced. and if you go back far enough, I also mention building out web sites for automotive back in 2010-2013 I think.

Earnings : internet average 8200 -9800 total per month from multiple sources : Instagram, You tube, AdSense and Facebook/Meta.
Earnings : Sponsorship : 2000-4000 per month depending on what was coming in and what was popular.

weekly working hour numbers :
editing time : 40 hours average
driving to find cars and shows : 30 hours ended up getting a Q7 for the comfort of my old ass
actual web site work : 3 hours
actual SEO work : 6-12 hours
Filing copywrite : 2 hours weekly.

If I was to start a new auto site I would first just put out content, and it would be as simple as some 27 seconds, with a weekly, full script 2 minute and 30 second talking about features and stuff. This would get the algorithm working to know you are auto related.

All I would do, is go to car shows, ask the owner of the car " what do you love about the original factory car ", " What did you do to make it yours ", and " and if you could make a change to the car from the factory, what would it be ", that's how I started, using a cell phone, small 20 to 30 second shorts, and then 10 to 15 minutes of extra filming of the car, and sometimes the owners of the car would help narrate. " it's a 1968 ford mustang fastback where I shoed in a 427 side oiler with Detroit locker rear running 4:10's" , lot's of fun stuff to link and explain and text to add

Then I would spend some time playing the audio into my cell phone so that it would translate ( now I can do it almost on the fly ), and basically I would link to other sites that were similar, mustang historic to mustang historical part's company, 427 side oiler to wiki and to whoever was still servicing them, and a long those lines.

I got decently well at this and I kept it very local, otherwise, I would end up going 5 hours in 1 direction and that's not fun for me. People got to know me, I learned the exotic car dealers delivery schedule so when it was nice weather, I was watching the R8's being delivered or Lambo's or whatever. Dealers got to know me and my site and asked to sponsor pages, come to deliveries, watch then work on oil changes and other things. and I built up an entire portfolio, So when the Audi dealership guy got the first RSQ8 in 2020, I was given a ride, and the entire press kit and items I could use to market the car. Same with many other dealers, I would just walk into a dealer ask for the sales manager, tell them about my site and ask if it was ok to film the car I thought was pretty. That's how they got to know me. Rolls Royce dealer would smile every time I came in, because I would sit and read, and then point out every new feature for the line ( I love the umbrella, and I don't know why ). If someone wanted to be part of the video they asked, I truly enjoyed the process.

Then once my site and video's started getting traction, I had to learn how to SEO and beat those car dealerships with millions of marketing ( it comes down to, be yourself, enjoy the process, and film like crazy ), and factually to me ( may not be to others ), crafting content to give you better than most results is a never ending research report of proper elocution, proper closed captions, proper car color choices and just using the right short and long tail phrases that bing, youtube and google want. I am sure my 17-27 steps to do it right would be a nightmare for others.

but I've gotten old, and time is valuable. This revenue stream revenue per hour invested does not make financial sense anymore when I have other evergreen sites that are making the same without any great daily time investment.

I will say the following:
every tool you need to get to $300 a day is free.
300 a day in revenue is a perfect 1 year goal.
Instagram, You tube, AdSense and Facebook/Meta are the choices I took, as my revenue generation sources. the others I did not like for personal reasons.
I filed multiple DCMA's against people who copied my stuff without asking first ( all my content that was re-used was ask me and within a simple " hey, if you use my stuff, I need a link back to that video and my site ". otherwise DCMA, I was ruthless about that.

can you do it? yes, will it be work, Yes it will be, so choose from your hobbies even if it's to formulate your steps.

Also the one thing you need to buy ( if you are a touchy feely calculator type person ), a computational note book, this is the one I like the best, National Brand Computation Notebook, 4 X 4 Quad, Brown, Green Paper, 11.75 x 9.25 Inches, 75 Sheets because it helped me draft out the concepts, have test numbers handy. every week I tested for page load speed from different regional locations ( NYC, Phily, Chicago, Austin, Montreal and Toronto ) because I was local to southern Florida and those were the people that came down here. There was also the international market which I did build out, but had no effect on earning so I tossed the effort to the side. I tested for SEO from different locations and different tools and once I started getting sponsors, I started to ask them, what my leads were looking like, and I learned about how to spend more time targeting

Opps forgot ... I am a very very big fan of Taguchi testing method.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taguchi_methods
https://eng.libretexts.org/Bookshel...ss Function,are sometimes difficult to define.

One of the things I learned from Taguchi Testing ( again you can do this type of testing for free ), what color cars brought in the most call's or clicks or page abandonment. I also learned a lot more things because I was willing to test word phrases, how I dressed, my filming behavior ( clock wise vrs counter clock wise ) and what part of the car was in the front of the video or end of the video.

Good luck, You'll make it, you'll be at 300 a day in no time and have your own recipes that you feel work for you and make your site stand out.

Its not a lie however if you have the will to learn you can just do about anything that will help you make money. Looking for jobs online for beginners is a bit tricky but thats where apps like BHW come in handy. You just need to be really convincing and willing to learn to get the job!

I think most of the BHW members are earning money without you.

iprobuser said:

I've been on BHW for years and sometimes I follow the threads. Someone will ask if there's a way to make money, and the answers are usually "learn a skill," "start a YouTube channel," "create a blog," or some other automated AI response.
What I don't understand is why the answers are mostly the same and is making money online really a lie?

Do people actually make money online?

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The ruke is simple that you need money to make more money.

Dyon said:

"making money with 0$" is an absolute SCAM.
It conflicts with the Golden Rule:
"YOU NEED MONEY TO MAKE MONEY", like your car need fuel to start and move you can't start an engine with 0$

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This is very wrong man, there are many ways to make money online without having to spend anything other than just an internet connection, of course if you don't want to invest money in your methods you will need to invest time, but I myself started with $0 working on the internet and my methods generally do not involve investing money, I also know other people who started with nothing and managed to make a living working on the internet

washingtondc said:

Making money online is real, but most people fail because they expect fast results without putting in real effort or learning deeply.

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exactly that, if it were easy everyone would be rich, working on the internet requires a lot of patience and trying

Yeah, people definitely make money online — it’s just that most real methods take time, skills, and testing, so the generic answers sound repetitive because they *work*, not because it’s fake.