Is it me? or is it getting real difficult to earn money?

IS IT GETTING DIFFICULT DAY BY DAY?

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There is probably a saturation in what you could consider "entry-level" method. With the proliferation of "guides" on how to make money, you'll find hordes of people trying to replicate literally methods that are death long ago. But if you depart a bit from the saturated roads there is lot of money to be made
 
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@callitlikeiseeit...LOL man i know you're having fun trying to annoy me x-D
 
@klit nice seeing that ure following the thread closely and learnin a thing or two on the way

@elchichata yes.. older methods=saturations.. until theyre whitehat and your ethics approve of them :-)
 
holy shit stop spamming the board 16 posts 1 thread in the blackhat SEO section and your whole post has nothing to do with blackhat SEO go back to DP
 
this thread got out of control! Well at least you got what you came for!

@guy with his picture as avatar: can you help me promote my site with all that autopligg and spokes and wheels?
 
godslayer said:
thank you peter i realized what you just said thru tygrus.what you just said was on my mind... earn a bang through blackhatting...get yourself a new cellphone and ps3...then divert rest of money to your whitehat empire... whats your take on whitehat solid earning? CPA PPC or buyin MRR packages and selling them?
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The mindset of earning some cash and then spending it all on luxury items is probably why you will never earn a sustainable income. Same goes for most blackhatters. You hear a lot of guys who were making "$1000 a day" and then 6 months later, all of their methods are "saturated" and are earning nothing with no savings or investments.

You've got to reinvest to be successful in any business, it's pretty fundamental theory
 
godslayer said:
hello guys my previous post was in wrong section so it got deleted.anyways ill try to repost it.

I was a good internet entrepreneur 3 years back with earnings reaching 2000$ a month. but i left all this for 2 years and since the past year i am trying to earn online trying every fool proof method but they all have their cons. let me list few.

1) EWHORING- craiglist ends up the ads flagging as ghosts. people are also gettin smarter by the day.

2) FLIPPING:- Since recession hit, i find it very difficult to sell a moderate income and moderate traffic say, 800 Uniques a day for a decent price.. at my time we used to sell it for 500$

3)ASSOCIATE CONTENT :- Outside US.. no money paid but they will still take your articles as donation (LOL).Rest, success of articles is never guaranteed

4)AUTOMATING:- SPEND LOT OF time in making a site and getting traffic to it.. wont sell for as much amount.. people work extra hard to NOT TO click on adsense or have popup blockers installed.

5)Facebook twitter etc traffic?:- well never tried..


Due to some family problem i had to quit doing this and take care of my parents but, unfortunately, when i returned back i didnt see any possible technique working as "fool proof" as they used to earlier.

i guess biggest mistake of my life was to invest my money on sharemarket and see my money burn as it crashed.rather i shouldve invested on development on a website.

right now, i have slightly smaller aim.. like, say, around 500$ a month.Any help would be appreciated



YES i know there are those sick people who are still sitting on grands laughing while reading this post.

PS- DO NOT POST BABY FEEDING PICTURES TO MAKE FUN OF ME(WHY? COZ I AM NOTA SKING YOU TO INSTALL SOME SCRIPT FOR ME) [LOL] NOR MESSAGES SAYING HEY A55H0LE GETTING 500 BUCKS IS EASY.....I WANT CONCRETE SUGGESTIONS OR LITTLE HELP..
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There's more and more and more new affiliates stepping in and taking their tiny pieces of the pie every day. There's EASILY twice as many people working online now as there were 3 years ago. Look at how quickly forums like this grow. On second thought, look at forums like this and you pretty much have your scapegoat. The "community sharing" mindset is kind of a double edged sword in this respect. While it IS helpful, it also puts the business and some of it's core techniques in front of a lot of new eyes, making the competition a lot fiercer as time goes by. Best to just hold on, and wait for internet natural selection to run it's course.
 
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godslayer said:
but one day common people will be taught about ewhoring... and boom everything gone away
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that day was years gone by my friend. you're here asking for a driiction to go and make money? there you have the issue at hand in play as we speak.
 
dirtbag said:
There's more and more and more new affiliates stepping in and taking their tiny pieces of the piece every day. There's EASILY twice as many people working online now as there were 3 years ago. Look at how quickly forums like this grow. On second thought, look at forums like this and you pretty much have your scapegoat. They "community sharing" mindset is kind of a double edged sword in this respect. While it IS helpful, it also puts the business and some of it's core techniques in front of a lot of new eyes, making the competition a lot fiercer as time goes by. Best to just hold on, and wait for internet natural selection to runs it's course.
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I truly believe that because the barrier has been so low in regards to the information here at BHW, DP, WF, and etc. that certain methods and niches ARE being smashed TOO DEATH, simply because of the sheer numbers of people that are ATTEMPTING to make money online now has nearly quadrupled in the past two years!


WHENEVER THE BARIER IN A CERTAIN INDUSTRY GETS LOWER, YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE MORE SUPPLY THAN YOU HAVE DEMAND!

The reason why it seems that its getting harder to make money online is simply because the supply is starting to overexceed the demand.

The barrier to the imformation has been WAYAYYYYYYYY to low, and thus, well, saturation!

I mean, what do you expect, BHW is listed in the serps! Do you think your the ONLY ONE taking action? You guys say "well only this percentage will take action", but I believe that alot more people are trying things then you realize. Remember, there are people who NEVER post on BHW!

Its no surprise to me that it may be getting harder for some folks out there. And the more and more BHW becomes commercial, expect more competition, that is just the natural order of things! Good luck to you!
 
More competition = more money for those who have sustainable business models and do things properly building a good reputation and contacts which are invaluable to success and being intangible cannot be taken away from you.
 
meathead1234 said:
More competition = more money for those who have sustainable business models and do things properly building a good reputation and contacts which are invaluable to success and being intangible cannot be taken away from you.
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Again, a "sustainable business model" takes "discipline and commitment" and one REALLY REALLY big one here----PATIENTS!!

Most people who are looking at these "methods" here are not looking to build something over the long haul, they are looking for something that is successful the first or second time they try it. The don't want to WAIT for success, they want it NOW! OR tomorrow, or next month. But Any longer, and they consider it a "failer".

Long term business model represents a barrier that most people will NOT go thru simply because of the patients required to get it going. Noobs here who come from the DP model of "try now, get paid tommorrow" don't want to consider the possibility that what they are doing will not last. They have this fantasy in there heads of sipping coconut liquor on the beach just by thrying something written on BHW in a step by step manor. Unfortunately, because something seems easy, you can also count on thousand upon thousands of would be marketers around the world trying to do it as well. Thats why noobs are having so much trouble-they are looking for the quickies and getting excited thinking that they found some "secret stash of methods" or whatever, when they are really doing or trying something that has already been SMASHED to shit!

If there was an invention that made me grow to 7ft. tall and also downloaded Micheal Jordans Basketball skills in his prime to my brain (almost like they do in the Matrix movie), and I only had to pay a "small fee" or worse, it was givin away for "FREE 99", what do you think this would do the the game of basketball? How vauleable would it be to become a basketball player if everyone could download the same skills?

Would people still pack basketball stadiums? Would you pay to go to a basketball game?

Now, while your considering those question, ask yourself this:

1. BHW has NO fee to sign up, just enter your email and username and Wala, you now have assess to tons of info that will "supposedly" make you money tomorrow or next month.

2. BHW is listed in the serps, talked about on other related IM forums, and has gone viral in the past two years.

Its really common sense here, this board as well as others has contributed in creating an over-eccess of supply of IM marketers AND spammers, to the point where once something is listed on this forum, its pretty much OVER! Not because the method per-se is not profitable, but because the amount of people trying it out will open the the people (whether it be Google spies, CL spies, Facebook spies, FB users, MS users, CL users, etc.etc.) to the "tricks" they are trying to pull, and thus making it "ineffective".

Again, anyone who has been doing this for over a year to two years and making steady money should not be surprised that this is happening. Just my take on it!
 
"to the point where once something is listed on this forum, its pretty much OVER!"
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very true ofcourse the experienced and inexperienced both will try the same thing.. inexperienced might see little success but the money is definitely getting split between professionals and spammers... reducing the income of professionals..

@callitlikeiseeit dude if you have a problem with the thread then dont reply on it...if youre too busy running your mind through the negatives of this post, you will never realize the ways described on first post belongs to blackhat ways :|
 
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This is why quite frankly I don't share anything I consider valuable here. Some people may look at that statement and say "you're not contributing anything to this forum, you're of no value to the community". Well, what do I have to say to that? GOOD, I'm not here to empower the competition or pay the community's bills. And really, anyone who thinks I'm an asshole for saying so, probably has never had an original and applicable idea they've profited from at all.

I've said it a few times on here, and every time there's somebody who feels the need to tell me that i offer nothing to the community. Makes me laugh every time.

In this business allies can be a good thing to have, and sharing of information can be a fantastic thing. Just don't share it on an open forum where thousands of people can read it every day. It's asking to squash the method. I am sure there's plenty of people here who have had incredibly successful campaigns crushed when some failboat asshole decides to share some method they discovered, or to out a landing page,or whatever, just to get a few clicks on their thanks button, or to sell a $7 ebook on DP. Only to have everybody and their uncle buttrush it trying to make a few bucks.

Best thing you can do is go against the grain and work your own ideas through trial and error. Milk them when they're hot and always be working on that next idea. Don't discount fast cash methods. Do the ones you come up with and bankroll off the hot ones when they're being in the money, all the time building and investing a long term income stream on the side.
 
@dirtbag. yes, definitely what you're saying is right.... one shouldnt share too much over many people.. as said before noobs have already saturated the methods by read and do it posts.

But, adding a little twist of your own to a method known to everyone can dilute the saturation ;)

that is how i have realized people are earning big nowadays even though ewhoring is considered to be saturated by many other innovative means and harnessing the power of sites.(which sites? keep guessing i am on tracks of dirtbag ;-) )
 
Making money is not so easy.If it was there would be no such forums.Isn't it?
 
Yeah, umm... got news for ya, that day has come and gone.

I started on ebay over 10 years ago, if you would have told me 2 years ago that I would be back there today, I would have fallen out of my chair and rolled across the floor.

Alas, history will always repeat itself.

just watching for the next opportunity, it will come, until then its about survival
 
Ok let me share some info..
Have you tried the old approach: Get your own product made, build a list using 2.0 sites, Sell it cheap keep milking them. Re start the process??

Actually the only people making consistent income online are those teaching others how to supposedly make tons of cash on the Internet :D

Mark
 
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