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is footer backlinks still working?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ferghb, Dec 20, 2016.

  1. ferghb

    ferghb Newbie

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    Hello,

    my main competitors are using footer back-links, but when i was searching i found its not good to use it.

    and when i used it after 1 month i found nothing change at the keyword i used.

    and i can't compete them using small baclink strategy, because they have ton of back links from all the websites they are in the footer.

    any suggestions ?
     
  2. randybishop

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  3. jangoz

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    Yep, they still work. There many things not good to use but they work ;)
     
  4. Aiden_1

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    Yes, it works well.
     
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    We typically don't recommend footer links because they are site wide and can cause issues with over-optimization of anchor text.

    Try to get a backlink within the content area of the page.
     
  6. seo dean

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    Yes its still works well.
     
  7. knowing25

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    Here's the problem. Google tends to devalue :
    • Site-wide, boilerplate anchors
    • Anchors in the footer
    • Over-optimized anchors
    Since Penguin, these three have been pounded especially hard.

    If you do build footer links, I'd try NOT to build them to your homepage. If you ever incur a penalty and need to "cut" the links, it's very hard to return a 404 from your homepage.

    Also, generic, branded or complete URLs are "safest" for sitewide links, because they aren't over-optimized.

    Hope this helps! Best of luck with your SEO.
     
  8. Nargil

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    I wouldn't really say they work. Sape for example is completely dead in my opinion and has been for quite some time. Out of the footer link you may get what? 10 - 20% of the link juice you would normally get from a contextual link? If you can always go for contextual links and for long term projects I do not advise any footer links whatsoever. It can veeeery easily raise red flags.
     
  9. ronalde

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    SAPE works well when combined with other link types. Just diversify anchors with weak links and use money keywords with SAPE.
     
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  10. jangoz

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    SAPE links are blazing hard especially after Penguin 4.0 :) How did you come to the conclusion they are dead? If they are dead, how come footer and sidebar links work?

     
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    Spot on!

     
  12. Nargil

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    I've been working with sape for good 3 years and over a year ago, I haven't seen any benefit from them whatsoever. That was I think even prior to Penguin 3.0, not alone now.

    And I have tried everything. Whatever sites, internal links, homepages, high TF, english only, top TLDs only, anything. Effect was almost non existent. It's not really hard for Google to catch up with Sape type of links. Unrelated web, non-contextual links, your anchor in company of viagra, cialis and who knows what else. Not too hard to minimize whatever link juice those links can provide.

    And that combination with other link types used to work, sure and I've been doing it always like that, but for quite some time now, sape type of links don't do shit. Especially when I compare the benefit with risk of using them, that's no brainer. I would rather invest in some different type of link for sure. For tier 2... maybe, but that's a waste of money to me.
     
  13. jangoz

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    I'm using them for 5 years and they are my goto links. If you don't speak Russian is hard to find the real gems in the network. Have you used the contextual SAPE links? PBNs are jokes compered to them :)
    I make living off of SAPE. Yes, there is a lot of junk on the network and you need to filter your links. But that's long story... Perfect links for Tier 1 if you have good link profile :)

    Main point, end your SEO with SAPE links, don't start your SEO with them. Work your way until page 4, page 3 and then use them.

     
  14. Nargil

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    I am Slovak and I can read Russian no problem, no worries. :) I had a list of pff... hundreds of high TF sites with great metrics. I've spent countless hours there. And no, I've never worked with those, but saying that PBNs are jokes compared to them is a bit farfetched. :) I wouldn't touch them after Penguin 3.0 and I wouldn't even get close after Penguin 4.0.
     
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    I'm Bulgarian and I read and speak Russian very well. Having a list means you had nothing because links metrics change a lot. I'm not saying PBNs are jokes, I said PBNs compared to the contextual SAPE links are jokes.
    For example, 99.9% of the people go for English language links. All of them are abused and overused. Also, most people when hear Russian language and .ru domains think Putin is going to knock on the door.

    I would rather get one niche related contextual link on article from 2003, instead of spun or re-written article on PBN domain that was re-created 20 days ago. :) I just gave you gold digging tips in one sentence. :)

     
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    I've been checking the site metrics all the time before I put my link on them and cleaning my list every week. And I know what you meant and it's still farfetched. :)

    I've been working with Sape for a long time and you don't really need to patronize me mate. I won't touch them again, not even for churn and burn projects really. :)
     
  17. jangoz

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    I don't pzatronize you at all. We all grown men and we can make a decision what's good or not. If something doesn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for me or for someone else. Just by looking the above comments the power tilts towards SAPE :) You may know what I mean but try it, it is not farfetched.

     
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    Not to derail the thread (I agree that footer links still work fwiw), but does SAPE have English contextual links? I've been using it for a while and still get decent results with just the footer / sidebar links.
     
  19. jangoz

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    Yes, SAPE have English contextual links.

     
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    well if not to footer then where ?