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Is Blackhat SEO dying out? [Serious]

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by boleklolek, Jul 24, 2017.

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Is Black Hat SEO Dying?

  1. Not Dying but Adapting - as it always has.

  2. Yes

  3. No

  4. Don't know

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  1. ambushiv11

    ambushiv11 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I bet these guys get paid for nothing :D
     
  2. baldwinjackson

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    Obviously.!!!
     
  3. trendiablo

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    i just think google changes SEO every year
     
  4. thedarkanthology

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    I agree on one point: buying links has became really shit to rank now.

    However, I find it very easy to rank with few good quality links & on-page optimization.

    I rank (1st page) low-medium competition keywords with 5-10 good backlinks & good on-page optimization. While I tried some packages/links at the beggining of the year and it delivered 0 results
     
  5. SoleSupreme

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    It has really been declining this year as I've seen more success with WH
     
  6. Jelly.fish

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    Black Hat will stay only for period of time then will be down via Google algorithm!
     
  7. littlewizard

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    Meh, all SEO is blackhat anyway. PBN is pretty black hat but done correctly it looks like pretty 'white hat' for google. depends on types of blackhat you do.

    mass spam link definitely lose almost all its power now. pbn is the way to go for 2017 and beyond.
     
  8. mmvcxz321

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    It's just evolving.
     
  9. TammyTRosamond

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    Blackhat SEO is not dying. But Google takes a lot of change last few month. That's why it's difficult to do some god or bad.
     
  10. LinkBuildingServices

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    To some extent yes, it's dying, of course blackhat techniques are being used by some, but white hat is becoming more mighty today
     
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  11. smartseogroup

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    Black Hat SEO still working.
    Just change the method.
    Other links - new place for links, working in 2017 after Penguin.
    Another page optimization - after Fred update.
     
  12. JTajzai

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    How do you manipulate Reddit? They shadow ban so quick... Plus it's hard to manipulate upvotes/downvotes and it depends on nichie, cause some subreddits are smaller than others.
     
  13. fredos

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    I don't think so.
     
  14. PandaBusters

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    If you use long tail keywords, where some more competitive keywords repeat and you multi-tier pyramid build, helping out low Pagerank, high numbers of do-follow-type sites, where partial matching the more competitive keywords because of the multi-tier effect uncommon to the competition may put you in the top 30, and use Google Trends for keywords expected to trend upward past the six week organic indexing period, it may be worth it. Content is king, but article spinning is not enough, you need to data merge your own and other's content, (the Best Spinner) index search engine data (and Google Trends) not indexed by Googlebot, compound words, etc. I have a site (down now) that will pay commission to and backlink to willing recipients who won't feel hijacked, ask me.
     
  15. Dan Michael

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    It's not that effective these days but it's still working. It's taking more time. But I think it's shifting from the old to new. As long as there is Google and marketing blackhat is not going to die.
     
  16. Alangile

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    Yep. BlackHat Maybe die after 5 years
     
  17. PandaBusters

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    Unless it becomes "permission-based" with a CPA pyramid incentive, there will be a stalemate. OCR to move your cursor to depress the robot blocker is necessary, more no-follows are problematic, but many webmasters are not paying attention, human moderators who police their sites are problematic, requiring too much white-to-black hat manual to fast posting.
     
  18. PandaBusters

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    My suggestion are long-tail keywords, where they all share that one keyword, high demand, low competition, trending upward (see http://trends.google.com) and create multi-tier pyramids where you help out sites with Pagerank not too high, but not too low, with a higher percentage of do-follows than the overly competitive high Pagerank sites that are micromanaged. The average number of keywords in a search went from 3 to 4 in 2014, with 25% of searches keywords never looked up, but 86% still click on organic results.

    A Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution of Pageranks/Yandex metric scores for the URL's you look up should look like thia:

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    where if you rank the values in Excel, do a flow chart/histogram, and choose only the values between E-mp and E-bar (or the range you want, I recommend the middle 10,000 where 10k backlinks point to your site and each other for a multi-tier pyramid, as the Eigenvector calculations favor tall pyramids with more tiers, it is impossible to be on top of many other pyramids (multiple high Pagerank/authority URL's) with competitive keywords.

    My site should be back up next week. Ask me more about Eigenvectors, Pascal's triangle, etc.
     
  19. kosik

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    BH is not dying, but is harder and more expensive. Some niches are unprofitable now
     
  20. PandaBusters

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    There needs to be an ocr gui-reader that will move cursor to punch hole in "I'm not a robot".