Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by boleklolek, Jul 24, 2017.
why is this a sticky post
Are there any BH SEO services (like extreme BH like SpamRank back in the day) atm?
It will never die out, but YT for example is making it more difficult for genuine content to get discovered unless you're knowledgeable in SEO
Everything relies upon what specialty you are dealing with and the amount you inspired energy to rule. It's a diversion
definitely harder than it used to be. definition of 'black hat' changes over time. it used to be spamming backlinks. nowadays what used to be known as 'grey hat' is now black hat because the real black hat like hacked links and all that are not possible anymore
Blackhat will never die out, but it will change and evolve just as everything else in technology does. People will simply figure out new methods and techniques to game the system, and as time passes other sites begin to come to the front and evolve themselves in their influence on Google and the serps. In the end it doesn't matter if your doing white or black hat, the game is going to change constantly. It's becoming a world where we have to run just to stand still, and as technology progresses it will take even more time, energy, and effort to stay up to date on any tactics that people create.
I also think that it’s not fading away but lacking somewhere in this competitive and growing SEO market.
Old Blackhat SEO is dead.
It's hard to draw a direct line between black and white hat seo these days. Some say every manually placed backlink on a relevant authority site is black hat since it's manipulating with google algorithm. But then what should be white hat link building? Old black hat methods die, but blackhatters still win on serps. SEO is changing like any other area, for example media buying is changing also, many new restrictions and blocks by browsers, AV programs etc. Personally I prefer white hat seo for the long run, I'm not into link spam and churn&burn type of ventures.
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I'm in the NO fraction. However, less and less BHW threads surround SEO and people seemingly are shifting away - does somehow not match the votes collected here.
My understanding was and is - be as much human/organic-like as you can, in every aspect, from every perspective. This is doable and you can still automize a lot.
What like that garbage link you just added then?
Of course not
I think the distinction between black and white is irrelevant. Strictly speaking, any influence, whether directly or indirectly, is no longer white because it is not really organic. So, everyone here is at least gray.
Generally it is getting harder or more complex, you have to deliver quality, spam is not enough anymore.
The methods will probably change, but the scene will persist.
The amount of great info in this thread is mind blowing.
Black Hat is never going to die because search engines are still algorithm based and a good analyzer can crack it. It's something like - doesn't matter how much updated and strong Anti-VIrus you have but finally hackers find a way to crack it.
If you want to wait forever to rank your site use white hat.
If you want to rank your site quickly use blackhat. It will never die out, it just evolves.
"WhiteHat" SEO is not viable. If you want to have an SEO operation you HAVE to do Blackhat. No serious SEO firm is 100% Whitehat. It's not viable or reliable. That said, blackhat will never die out. It will just change. Google can detect much but it will never be able to detect intention.
How will it ever know who owns website A and website B. So long as it can't know what person owns what, building backlinks between two websites with the intention of SEO exist. It'll never die out
It's gotten less formulaic - you cant just buy a couple tools and blast away IMO. Need to learn a bit more to get into it but it's still a big market.
As said above it is a very small line between whitehat and blackhat SEO. I would consider GSA Spam and hacked links as blackhat, but wouldn't say blackhat to a PBN or linking between different money sites. Big corporations are spending lots of money for backlinks or better to say guest posts on websites, which are doing the same. Is this now blackhat or whitehat? And what makes it differences from someone who is making himself a PBN to link out to his own or other people's website?
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