Is Bing Selling Fake Clicks?

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Lunareclipse said:
Even the small networks see it but they are not doing this is really surprising
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are they really? I'm not sure they are. as long as you make an effort to make the traffic seem real, everyone wins.. except the advertiser.
 
Lunareclipse said:
What kind of bot? Is he using proxies?
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This can’t be done without proper traffic proxing. Like I said earlier, this can be done but lots of moving parts must be taken into the account, like proxies, proper bot infrastructure, lots of research with lots of trials and errors.
Bottom point is that it can be achieved but scaling can be a problem (management of such big bot network) and person doing it must have in-depth knowledge of networking, virtualisation, programming and of course IM and ad networks
 
strontium said:
I know of one person making millions per month doing click fraud.

Literally sends bots to his website to click on the ads thousands of times per day.

This is on bing ads and they don't care.

It's illegal though.
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yep there was a method floating around for doing click fraud with google adsense with twitter traffic
worked for me for a few years
warm accounts up very very slowly. eventually getting x,xxx-xx,xxxx per month from adsense with 100% fake clicks
it patched eventually but im sure other people have it all figured out for what works right now.
 
AlexAkimbo said:
This can’t be done without proper traffic proxing. Like I said earlier, this can be done but lots of moving parts must be taken into the account, like proxies, proper bot infrastructure, lots of research with lots of trials and errors.
Bottom point is that it can be achieved but scaling can be a problem (management of such big bot network) and person doing it must have in-depth knowledge of networking, virtualisation, programming and of course IM and ad networks
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what's the virtualisation part used for? to try to create a unique fingerprint for every click?
 
strontium said:
what's the virtualisation part used for? to try to create a unique fingerprint for every click?
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Depends on approach one will use. Basically on one VPS instance you can run limited amount of bots and each must be unique (have unique fingerprint like you’ve said). Let’s take basic approach puppeteer/playwright/selenium into the equation - i tried it on different devices and got to the sweet stop of 4 parallel browser windows on m1 mac (or windows/linux 4vcpu/8GB ram). Other issue are chrome persistent profiles (if you use chrome/chromium based browser) as those MF’s can grow up really fast. Right now i am testing one method and 100k of Chrome profiles are cca 15TB (less than one month old). I’m thinking to try kubernetes approach and to see is it better for this task.

So, like i’ve said earlier, one must check everything beforehand and must have in-depth knowledge of lots of stuff.

To sum it up, good traffic bot must have following:
1. Quality residential proxy (can be bought or built)
2. Ability to mimic real user (e.g. bezier curve implementation for mouse movement) (development knowledge)
3. Option to monetise such bot (ad network/IM knowledge)
4. Deployment/Management (in terms of dashboard, remote execution, feedback to master node, etc.) (network protocols, advanced server management, MF frontend and backend development, etc)
 
digitalbiker said:
Hi guys,
I've launched a campaign and not really sure what kind of clicks I am getting.

For example - I am targeting 100% mobile, but my tracker does not show any of that mobile. I do use this tracker for other purposes and it works pretty well. There is also a significant difference between the Bing report and the actual clicks received. In addition 90% of the clicks are flagged as bot/spider by my tracker.

I've clicked on my ad with vpn and went to straight my lander with no problem. So setup is working properly...

Is Bing trying to screw me, or is it competition killing other campaigns? Or do I have somekind blocked domain? I've checked it with google transparency tool, it doesn't show any issues.

Any help really appreciated. Thanks
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Click loss. It's simply a variable I figure into my campaigns. I would expect ~ 3 to 5%.
 
When Google Ads is unable to stop scammers from placing ads, how can Google Ads stop fraud clicks ? Both of these add revenues for Google, so why must Google really stop these from happening. Google will only pretend to be stopping these from happening. Understand one thing, all these big companies are legalized mafia organizations.
 
Google ads scam you on the keywords you use (force your ads to appear for all sorts of unrelated keywords), so if that's what they're doing in plain sight, we'd be fools to believe they've stopping most fake clicks.
 
You can control much of this in setting by only:
1. Using Microsoft Network avoid network partners.
2. Targeted your country, then people who live in your target location who actively search.
3. In settings, decrease audience ads by -100%.

Audience ads is where you will get a bunch of clicks that look like bots. Focusing on just search will reduce this.
 
cmac434 said:
You can control much of this in setting by only:
1. Using Microsoft Network avoid network partners.
2. Targeted your country, then people who live in your target location who actively search.
3. In settings, decrease audience ads by -100%.

Audience ads is where you will get a bunch of clicks that look like bots. Focusing on just search will reduce this.
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I totally agree with this. I will add though that bots are usually routed through residential proxies (in your own country), so targeting your own country's traffic will still include most bots.

it's crazy Microsoft Ads are doing nothing to detect bots.
 
AlexAkimbo said:
This can’t be done without proper traffic proxing. Like I said earlier, this can be done but lots of moving parts must be taken into the account, like proxies, proper bot infrastructure, lots of research with lots of trials and errors.
Bottom point is that it can be achieved but scaling can be a problem (management of such big bot network) and person doing it must have in-depth knowledge of networking, virtualisation, programming and of course IM and ad networks
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You don't need to have any knowledge.You can use BAS AND Zennoposter . Warm up 10 thousand profiles 1-2 weeks to some action and click from these profiles. Do random actions, and the ctr of the click should not exceed 3-5% in order not to attract attention.
 
oleg21621 said:
You don't need to have any knowledge.You can use BAS AND Zennoposter . Warm up 10 thousand profiles 1-2 weeks to some action and click from these profiles. Do random actions, and the ctr of the click should not exceed 3-5% in order not to attract attention.
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can you explain what BAS AND Zennoposter are?

also how do you "warm up" 10 thousand profiles?

Thanks
 
strontium said:
can you explain what BAS AND Zennoposter are?

also how do you "warm up" 10 thousand profiles?

Thanks
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The profile-folder function saves cookies and all other browser settings and uses it next time.
 
What is the advantage of this over something like puppeteer extra?
 
The puppeteer extra is detected and known about it, which means the protection is aimed at it, and zennoposter cannot be detected because it does 100% human-like actions and it is unlikely to be detected.
 
oleg21621 said:
The puppeteer extra is detected and known about it, which means the protection is aimed at it, and zennoposter cannot be detected because it does 100% human-like actions and it is unlikely to be detected.
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Thanks!

What is BAS?
 
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