IOTA - People don't recognize that the future is right here

Drogon,
There are indeed flaws on ALL Cryptocurrencies but what I fail to see what made IOTA stand out to you?
How many BTC are missing, How did 70 million NiceHash disappear, etc....
It's risk versus reward wherever/whenever you spend your cash in a investment.
Several here took the risk including myself and got paid.... and continue to do so might I add.

Vapys said:

Drogon,
There are indeed flaws on ALL Cryptocurrencies but what I fail to see what made IOTA stand out to you?
How many BTC are missing, How did 70 million NiceHash disappear, etc....
It's risk versus reward wherever/whenever you spend your cash in a investment.
Several here took the risk including myself and got paid.... and continue to do so might I add.

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IOTA stands out because it is now the 4th most valuable crypto at 13 Billion Dollars and rising. But i do thing many other cryptos are overvalued and the moment BTC starts to rise, these Alts fall in price. IF BTC has a temp crash, the Alts crash too. Now if IOTA has a price dump, this has no effect on BTC.

drogon said:

IOTA stands out because it is now the 4th most valuable crypto at 13 Billion Dollars and rising. But i do thing many other cryptos are overvalued and the moment BTC starts to rise, these Alts fall in price. IF BTC has a temp crash, the Alts crash too. Now if IOTA has a price dump, this has no effect on BTC.

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Respectfully I don't think you understand the "Independence" of IOTA and what market it's targeting.
Now you continue to compare BTC with IOTA in several references but first to launch first to market effect but plz keep in mind they were trading 2k away for a pizza.

IOTA won't touch that road my friend, I do believe it will pave a new one. Now lets say all goes to sh!t tommorrow ..... I got in, got paid, jumped back in paid by profit. I literally have NOTHING to lose.

drogon said:

What again? Im not some anti crypto guy ranting its all a bubble. I do invest in crypto. just making conversion and an observation! Does anyone even think about the fact IOTA is currently worth 13 billion dollars. Thats alot of money for nothing!

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bro IOTA has a meeting with Microsoft Tuesday
why do you think that is? Microsofts people aren't coming to talk about "how IOTA is a bubble" with IOTAs' people lol

Vapys said:

Now lets say all goes to sh!t tommorrow ..... I got in, got paid, jumped back in paid by profit. I literally have NOTHING to lose.

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Agreed. This is exactly what i do too. I always cash out my initial capital and some profits and leave remaining profits in the market.

drogon said:

Alts like IOTA is the true definition of a bubble, not Bitcoin. At least Bitcoin is a working product (yes it has its flaws) and acts as a store of wealth. But IOTA, has ZERO product, not even a wallet,a nd yet it is worth 13 billion dollars based on a promise and partnerships which could go no where. And people want to fill forms to get it on more exchanges so it is worth even more billions......but where is the product or even a prototype?

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Yes it is really working product, I had not much bitcoin in my pc wallet, now I`m 3 days downloading 152 GB blockchain torrent... It is really nice system, hope that I will have that in end of this week. Ah and I forgot that I will gonna need to pay fee on sending. But yes you are right because you are Elite Member and you know better about this cripto than Microsoft, Fujitsu, Bosch, Volkswagen, Samsung and other more 15 partners. https://www.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/7f3dmx/list_of_known_iota_partnerships_corporate/

Now about CEX WHU IS STUCK WHIT MONEY READ THIS!
So as I said CEX is scammers, they want more money, they stopped ETH withdrawals because when you buy bitcoin you need more money to invest. I got my ETH after 4 hours. So go to withdrawal bitcoin, in there you will get this url: https://cex.io/trade/withdrawal#/instrument_id/crypto/currency/BTC?back_to=%2Ftrade%2Fbuysell change BTC to ETH, full url: https://cex.io/trade/withdrawal#/instrument_id/ethcrypto/currency/ETH?back_to=/trade/buysell there you go, enjoy your money!

guyzon said:

Should I sell IOTA and buy BTC???

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Dude.... No One here can possibly answer that for you. You need to do your own due diligence and make that FINANCIAL decision on your own.

Perhaps just perhaps as a suggestion you can diversify your portfolio and have a little of both????



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Anybody noticing that when BTC goes up that all the other cryptocurrencies go down and when BTC goes down all the other cryptocurrencies go up?

Anyone noticing that on coinmarketcap?

BTC is down across the board yet the Alts are BOOMING.

https://cryptowat.ch



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guyzon said:

Should I sell IOTA and buy BTC???

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Bitcoin newer whose stable. And now it is on skyrocket, so it will gonna go down. IOTA is at bottom so it will gonna rise.

Let's do simple counting.
Bitcoin price - $15817.54
IOTA price - $5

So bitcoin can get to 20-30k, but I think this is cap. So you can get proofit 4000-15000$
Now lets cont IOTA $15817 : 5.00 = 3163 IOTAS
So for one bitcoin you can get 3163 IOTAS

Lets assume that IOTA will boost to $10, I think this is big possibility, you will double your money.
But point is that at summer IOTA can be 100 or 400 dollars. Count 3163 x 100 = $316 300,
or 3163 x 400 = $1 265 200

So now ask question for yourself, what is bigger possibility, or bitcoin will rise to 20-30k
when it whose all the time 250-700 dollars? Or IOTA to 10 or 100 dollars???

Another point yesterday one guy both bitcoin for nearly 18k dollars today it dropped to 15, congratulations, he lost 3k in one night.

Maximizing said:

Anybody noticing that when BTC goes up that all the other cryptocurrencies go down and when BTC goes down all the other cryptocurrencies go up?

Anyone noticing that on coinmarketcap?

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Theres a very scientific reason for that phenomenon.
The reason is people that trade crypto are looking to make "fast,easy money"
And when BTC slows down (cuz its too expensive) people buy the cheap alternatives

r3L4x said:

Bitcoin newer whose stable. And now it is on skyrocket, so it will gonna go down. IOTA is at bottom so it will gonna rise.

Let's do simple counting.
Bitcoin price - $15817.54
IOTA price - $5

So bitcoin can get to 20-30k, but I think this is cap. So you can get proofit 4000-15000$
Now lets cont IOTA $15817 : 5.00 = 3163 IOTAS
So for one bitcoin you can get 3163 IOTAS

Lets assume that IOTA will boost to $10, I think this is big possibility, you will double your money.
But point is that at summer IOTA can be 100 or 400 dollars. Count 3163 x 100 = $316 300,
or 3163 x 400 = $1 265 200

So now ask question for yourself, what is bigger possibility, or bitcoin will rise to 20-30k
when it whose all the time 250-700 dollars? Or IOTA to 10 or 100 dollars???

Another point yesterday one guy both bitcoin for nearly 18k dollars today it dropped to 15, congratulations, he lost 3k in one night.

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I agree that IOTA will go up for sure. Just remember not to pay too much attention to the coin price itself but rather the market cap. IOTA has 2.8 billions coins in circulation and bitcoin has only 16 million, hence the higher price. IOTA's market cap is only 12 billion at the moment and can probably go higher, but its gonna take A LOT for it to reach 100 - 400 dollars

how can i buy other coins using paypal?

Adonno said:

how can i buy other coins using paypal?

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Go ask in the proper thread.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/bitcoin-btc-news-market-watch-comments-and-questions.993184/


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r3L4x said:

But yes you are right because you are Elite Member and you know better about this cripto than Microsoft, Fujitsu, Bosch, Volkswagen, Samsung and other more 15 partners.

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Mate, no need for personal insults! especially when you dont even understand the question / issue i am raising. As i already said i am a crypto investor myself. I did NOT say i know better than those companies....and i did NOT say IOTA has zero value. i am saying is the company worth Billions of dollars just because it has partnerships with no final product?? Simple question, which i guess you cannot even understand the concept of a simple question and feel the need to insult me!!

And i am not saying BTC is better than IOTA or even comparing the two. I am saying that the people that say BTC is a bubble are wrong because it is a working product (yes it has faults)...and did you even read my comment in brackets in my original post??

Vapys said:

Respectfully I don't think you understand the "Independence" of IOTA and what market it's targeting.
Now you continue to compare BTC with IOTA in several references but first to launch first to market effect but plz keep in mind they were trading 2k away for a pizza.

IOTA won't touch that road my friend, I do believe it will pave a new one.

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Honestly, i think i will refrain from posting these kind of questions in future....as people just get defensive and want to attack me for rasing an !! I am NOT comparing BTC to IOTA directly. I know they are different technologys. My point about BTC was to those people who say its a bubble. Not that BTC and IOTA target the same market or are thesame thing. My last comment BTC to IOTA comparison is in respect to price volatility. When BTC goes on a bull run, IOTA goes down. When BTC crashes, IOTA goes down. When BTC goes sideways.....then thats when IOTA goes up...and other Alts too. So my point is that these other Alts are affected by BTC movement but BTC is NOT affected by IOTA movement! Do you understand the difference now??? Price (value) and market cap, not Tech!

And in terms of the Alts market in general - https://futurism.com/ethereum-founder-says-90-of-token-startups-will-fail/

drogon said:

Alts like IOTA is the true definition of a bubble, not Bitcoin. At least Bitcoin is a working product (yes it has its flaws) and acts as a store of wealth. But IOTA, has ZERO product, not even a wallet,a nd yet it is worth 13 billion dollars based on a promise and partnerships which could go no where. And people want to fill forms to get it on more exchanges so it is worth even more billions......but where is the product or even a prototype?

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Dude just read what you wrote. Then after 5 post you say I didn't say anything wrong on IOTA. Bitcoin don't have anything, laggy buggy wallet, we even don't know who made it and I will say and say it is pathetic when people buy them for 15k, real price is 0 or 250 dollars. lol IOTA got to 5 dollars and you say bubble. Bitcoin got to 15k then it is super bubble. I just can say to you go buy bitcoins, it will gonna go down after christmas for long term.

r3L4x said:

Dude just read what you wrote. Then after 5 post you say I didn't say anything wrong on IOTA. Bitcoin don't have anything, laggy buggy wallet, we even don't know who made it and I will say and say it is pathetic when people buy them for 15k, real price is 0 or 250 dollars. lol IOTA got to 5 dollars and you say bubble. Bitcoin got to 15k then it is super bubble.

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Dude (lol), maybe English is not your first language. 'I didnt say anything wrong on IOTA'?? WTF does that mean? I am saying IMO IOTA is overvalued in billions with no product and no guarantee they will ever deliver or even be a market leader. You think all these big companies have never made bad investments?? And IOTA is a 100% guarantee to make you a millionaire??

You dont even understand the basics of supply with your stupid simple counting post about IOTA going up to $100. That means IOTA would then be worth 277 Billion dollars, making it the most valuable company in the world today!! Bigger than all those partners you listed! Really?

You dont understand English (hey no problem, i cannot speak your native language too) but you can't do basics maths means you need to shut the fuck up!!

Okey explain my everything big "expert"

You said IOTA is true definition of a bubble. Then you say I didn't said anything wrong. From my understand you just said that IOTA it is big bubble, everybody is morons because they are investing in some not worth double that it will blast anytime and we all gonna lose money.

And no IOTA will not gonna make my millionaire, I have steady income, I have 8 websites and one shop. But spending few hundreds on IOTA it is nothing, better than spending 18k and losing 3 in one night on bitcoin.

Yes I don't understand basics of counting, I just watch in stars and predict future. I'm following bitcoin from beginning, I mined Litecoins when it whose 12 dollars, now I exchange my Litecoins to IOTAS. You must understand few things:

1) IOTA`s all are mined, their price will gonna go up because of limited number of them in market
2) They work 700 times faster than other cryptos
3) Developers not some shady dudes
4) Super strong companies invest in them

At the end I don't have time arguing with you. Everybody have their opinion.