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Hello, i Am looking to run mother slave but toying with the idea of doing it by phone i have enough i phones to set up around 50 accounts but it would require a tedious amount of time

Or using a software to do this for me can anyone give me some advice on the best plan of action i see some people do it in house or use software's but i am not to sure which would be best.
 
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grimrunner said:
Hello, i Am looking to run mother slave but toying with the idea of doing it by phone i have enough i phones to set up around 50 accounts but it would require a tedious amount of time

Or using a software to do this for me can anyone give me some advice on the best plan of action i see some people do it in house or use software's but i am not to sure which would be best.
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Maybe explore some Whitelabel solutions on the market?
 
grimrunner said:
struggling to find the best software to keep accounts on its time consuming using the phone it's self
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I think it will always be time-consuming. Just depends which would you prefer:
1. To do it by hand and make it hard for yourself to scale; also keep in mind that you'd also experience IG blocks, you'd need to change the IP adresses, etc.
2. Find an existing solution that has a partner program for agencies; if you'd do this one, maybe it's best that you start small, plug in several accounts onto their service, test it out and learn how to use it. After that go for more expensive plans; But you'd still have to manage the people you sell your services too, which is hard as well
3. Your own solution and do tech maintenance + sell it, this would be really hard and expensive, IG has really good "bot" tracking and there would need to be a lot of trial and errors

Also keep in mind that there currently isn't a "perfect" IG automation tool, because Meta is fighting them really hard. The golden days are over... but you can still earn nicely, though.

The way I see it, the 1. and 3. options would require you to provide a solution as well, while option 2. helps you in that segment and once you find and learn how to use a service with Agency/Whitelabel program you could focus on "people" part
 
GrowthCheetah said:
I think it will always be time-consuming. Just depends which would you prefer:
1. To do it by hand and make it hard for yourself to scale; also keep in mind that you'd also experience IG blocks, you'd need to change the IP adresses, etc.
2. Find an existing solution that has a partner program for agencies; if you'd do this one, maybe it's best that you start small, plug in several accounts onto their service, test it out and learn how to use it. After that go for more expensive plans; But you'd still have to manage the people you sell your services too, which is hard as well
3. Your own solution and do tech maintenance + sell it, this would be really hard and expensive, IG has really good "bot" tracking and there would need to be a lot of trial and errors

Also keep in mind that there currently isn't a "perfect" IG automation tool, because Meta is fighting them really hard. The golden days are over... but you can still earn nicely, though.

The way I see it, the 1. and 3. options would require you to provide a solution as well, while option 2. helps you in that segment and once you find and learn how to use a service with Agency/Whitelabel program you could focus on "people" part
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Thank you for you're insight it is much appreciated,
i will search for the best manager for accounts online see what i can find quite annoying they all seem to be getting black listed as you say,
do you have any recommendations for a Automation toll that you may have used before ?
 
grimrunner said:
Thank you for you're insight it is much appreciated,
i will search for the best manager for accounts online see what i can find quite annoying they all seem to be getting black listed as you say,
do you have any recommendations for a Automation toll that you may have used before ?
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You could buy a software's license to automate everything you doing on the phones. I think will be the best solution. And with regards to the best tool, not sure there is any. Will try to PM you with some that I have used before...
 
grimrunner said:
Thank you for you're insight it is much appreciated,
i will search for the best manager for accounts online see what i can find quite annoying they all seem to be getting black listed as you say,
do you have any recommendations for a Automation toll that you may have used before ?
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I'm not sure whether I should recommend you any tool since it might look like I'm promoting a service? Also, seems like I can't PM you, I guess maybe because I'm a new account...? Not sure, I'm pretty much new here.

My advice is that you search "best organic growth instagram automation tools" or something like that, then go over the reviews, collect like 20 sites, go over them and see which have agency programs and then what they're about. If you like their methods etc. then maybe apply or whatever their pipeline is...
 
Hamasiach Neggi said:
You could buy a software's license to automate everything you doing on the phones. I think will be the best solution. And with regards to the best tool, not sure there is any. Will try to PM you with some that I have used beforha
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Hamasiach Neggi said:
You could buy a software's license to automate everything you doing on the phones. I think will be the best solution. And with regards to the best tool, not sure there is any. Will try to PM you with some that I have used before...
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Are you talking about whitelabel solutions? Haven't heard of any softwares, would you be kind to PM some to me as well?
 
GrowthCheetah said:
I'm not sure whether I should recommend you any tool since it might look like I'm promoting a service? Also, seems like I can't PM you, I guess maybe because I'm a new account...? Not sure, I'm pretty much new here.

My advice is that you search "best organic growth instagram automation tools" or something like that, then go over the reviews, collect like 20 sites, go over them and see which have agency programs and then what they're about. If you like their methods etc. then maybe apply or whatever the
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yh im currently searching around for options right now trying to see which are best it seems that jarvee thing was good but doesn't seem to be in use anymore ;(
 
GrowthCheetah said:
Also keep in mind that there currently isn't a "perfect" IG automation tool, because Meta is fighting them really hard. The golden days are over... but you can still earn nicely, though.
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That's right. No tool or service is perfect. The platform is fluid, so is each service and tool, which constantly need to be updated.

1) You have a lot of time to dedicate your R&D, process and future scaling to this : you can try to DIY.

2) You have a daily job on the side which is time consuming or not enough time due to XYZ reasons :
- Try an already available public bot,
- Or hire a developer to build one for you (keep in mind to stick around with him, as updates will be need every week or month, depending on what you want),
- Or as he stated above, look for services out there, test with small budget each one of them and if one suits you, stick with it aswell.

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Jarvee IG is dead! Try follow liker. I used it back in the day its pretty good!
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That's not quite true. I'm not a Jarvee promoter so this is not advertisement at all, and far from liking it for various reasons, but I know for a fact a few marketers using that software for automation especially on Mother/Child. It still can work, depending on your automation skills level. Be prepared to spend months drilling on it, though, before being able to be successful. So not dead, still doable (but hard++ was quite easy until June 2019).
 
grimrunner said:
yh im currently searching around for options right now trying to see which are best it seems that jarvee thing was good but doesn't seem to be in use anymore ;(
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Limitless Networks said:
That's right. No tool or service is perfect. The platform is fluid, so is each service and tool, which constantly need to be updated.

1) You have a lot of time to dedicate your R&D, process and future scaling to this : you can try to DIY.

2) You have a daily job on the side which is time consuming or not enough time due to XYZ reasons :
- Try an already available public bot,
- Or hire a developer to build one for you (keep in mind to stick around with him, as updates will be need every week or month, depending on what you want),
- Or as he stated above, look for services out there, test with small budget each one of them and if one suits you, stick with it aswell.


That's not quite true. I'm not a Jarvee promoter so this is not advertisement at all, and far from liking it for various reasons, but I know for a fact a few marketers using that software for automation especially on Mother/Child. It still can work, depending on your automation skills level. Be prepared to spend months drilling on it, though, before being able to be successful. So not dead, still doable (but hard++ was quite easy until June 2019).
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Yeah - but Jarvee's dead for several months now. Literally it says "Service closed". I would probably go for organic follow/unfollow services, they're the safest bet on the market I would say. They don't scale (follower count 400-1000/mo with most of them) and the followback rates depend on your IG profile quality, you need to have content and seem legit and interesting, since you're engaging with real people. But they're easy to manage, you just plug in your account, set up targeting, and then they automate your interactions. The least bot-like activity, and it shouldn't affect your engagement rate as well...
 
Limitless Networks said:
That's right. No tool or service is perfect. The platform is fluid, so is each service and tool, which constantly need to be updated.

1) You have a lot of time to dedicate your R&D, process and future scaling to this : you can try to DIY.

2) You have a daily job on the side which is time consuming or not enough time due to XYZ reasons :
- Try an already available public bot,
- Or hire a developer to build one for you (keep in mind to stick around with him, as updates will be need every week or month, depending on what you want),
- Or as he stated above, look for services out there, test with small budget each one of them and if one suits you, stick with it aswell.


That's not quite true. I'm not a Jarvee promoter so this is not advertisement at all, and far from liking it for various reasons, but I know for a fact a few marketers using that software for automation especially on Mother/Child. It still can work, depending on your automation skills level. Be prepared to spend months drilling on it, though, before being able to be successful. So not dead, still doable (but hard++ was quite easy until June 2019I
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I spent quite a while making 20 accounts on Instagram for slave then a week later they was all banned,
used proxys and separate phones 3 accounts per phone
 
GrowthCheetah said:
I would probably go for organic follow/unfollow services, they're the safest bet on the market I would say.
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Follow/Unfollow from the main account is the opposite of "safe" by definition. You can get various blocks, account compromised and other security checks.

Method that do not engage the main account in any action are the ones called "safe" :)
 
Limitless Networks said:
Follow/Unfollow from the main account is the opposite of "safe" by definition. You can get various blocks, account compromised and other security checks.

Method that do not engage the main account in any action are the ones called "safe" :)
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Hmmm makes sense when you put it that way - security wise.

But at the same time, is it really "safe" to "land" a bunch of fake/low quality on your account that kill your engagement rate etc.? Result wise.

Just wondering about your thoughts, not trying to argue
 
GrowthCheetah said:
But at the same time, is it really "safe" to "land" a bunch of fake/low quality on your account that kill your engagement rate etc.? Result wise.
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If by "safe" you mean account safety, yes it is ; you can send "fake / low quality" followers to your account, and this one will have no issue - but in my opinion there is no point buying fake followers except for a few rare cases when you need to achieve a fast social proof, for example for an e-com brand.

Otherwise, I don't recommend sending these kind of followers, thus why the scraping + multiple layers of filtering are needed : to make sure you end up with a certain HQ audience.

When you can't scrape (in the giveaways case +++ or even shoutouts), this issue might happen as you have **no control** on who's being targeted : it's the whole audience of those big pages.
 
Limitless Networks said:
If by "safe" you mean account safety, yes it is ; you can send "fake / low quality" followers to your account, and this one will have no issue - but in my opinion there is no point buying fake followers except for a few rare cases when you need to achieve a fast social proof, for example for an e-com brand.

Otherwise, I don't recommend sending these kind of followers, thus why the scraping + multiple layers of filtering are needed : to make sure you end up with a certain HQ audience.

When you can't scrape (in the giveaways case +++ or even shoutouts), this issue might happen as you have **no control** on who's being targeted : it's the whole audience of those big pages.
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What do you mean by scraping? Like getting follower lists from target accounts and then following them manually or what?

What's your opinion about Mass DMs?
 
GrowthCheetah said:
What do you mean by scraping?
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Indeed, the process of "scraping" is to gather a list of users or datas, from a target(s). It can be hashtags, accounts (competitors) or posts targeted, and the lists can be various things. Usually, it's "Followers" of target accounts, aka competitors.

Then, you can do whatever you want with the list(s). Social media activities (automated or manual), e-mail campaigns, or even cold-calling if you scraped phone numbers,...

GrowthCheetah said:
What's your opinion about Mass DMs?
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I always said and will always say it, the "mass DMs" term is used the wrong way by everyone.

1) It actually describes a service using blank/empty accounts and sending cold DMs on the platform,
2) While it truely means "massive amount of DMs sent". And there are many ways to send a huge amount of DMs, not only with "mass DMs".

If your question is regarding 1) = The service, I don't like the low-quality outreach process. Some do, some don't - I don't.

If your question is regarding 2) = The fact to send a massive amount of DMs on the platform, well, if done carefully + with some quality, there is value to get exposure.

Various point of views, various ways to achieve results, after all
 
Limitless Networks said:
Indeed, the process of "scraping" is to gather a list of users or datas, from a target(s). It can be hashtags, accounts (competitors) or posts targeted, and the lists can be various things. Usually, it's "Followers" of target accounts, aka competitors.

Then, you can do whatever you want with the list(s). Social media activities (automated or manual), e-mail campaigns, or even cold-calling if you scraped phone numbers,...


I always said and will always say it, the "mass DMs" term is used the wrong way by everyone.

1) It actually describes a service using blank/empty accounts and sending cold DMs on the platform,
2) While it truely means "massive amount of DMs sent". And there are many ways to send a huge amount of DMs, not only with "mass DMs".

If your question is regarding 1) = The service, I don't like the low-quality outreach process. Some do, some don't - I don't.

If your question is regarding 2) = The fact to send a massive amount of DMs on the platform, well, if done carefully + with some quality, there is value to get exposure.

Various point of views, various ways to achieve results, after all
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Right, makes sense, I mean at the end everything in marketing is either good or bad, efficient or not, valuable or trash regarding your goals
 
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