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Important notice from google that every webmaster must read

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Scripteen, Mar 13, 2012.

  1. Scripteen

    Scripteen Elite Member

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    Quoted from google page below

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    So for those thinking you can scrapebox a competitor's url to punish it then you should stop this and save yourself some money.
     
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  2. SuperLinks

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    More importantly, focus on building YOUR business, YOUR brand, and quit trying to fuck over other people.

    Unfortunately though, you CAN hurt your competitors rankings if you know what you are doing. But lets face it, karma will come back to bite you in the ass. And while you may think that hurting your competition in the near term is worth it, chances are they are likely building their business while you are wasting time trying to screw over your competitor. Who do you think will win in the long run?
     
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  3. Scripteen

    Scripteen Elite Member

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    Well said business wise. Be positive and build yourself than being negative person who is trying to smash everyone beside him.
     
  4. kingofbigmac

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    Took the words right out of my mouth. Seriously people just respect those that are beating your rankings and learn from them and beat them in their own game. Just don't do anything to hurt them.

    Treat others the way you want to be treated. I would hate for someone try and take my websites down so why do it to someone else.
     
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  5. ADHD-Dude

    ADHD-Dude Power Member

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    Almost nothing

    We can try to find that one thing that works
     
  6. crowly

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    "Almost nothing" far away from nothing
     
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    This is where I would expect G to straight up lie. It is not in their interest to state you can harm your competitors.
     
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    Pretty much my line of thinking as well

    I don't exactly trust Google's ability to discern between a competitor hurting me and someone I hire messing up and hurting me. If I create a bunch of backlinks like a fool and get spanked, couldn't I just say, "it was my competitor trying to hurt me! the backlinks just look natural and diversified so it would look more legitimate!"

    Kind of irresponsible of Google to say there is almost nothing that can be done.
     
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    nYXem Power Member

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    So does this indirectly mean spammy backlinks are "almost" harmless?
    Because if they are not, then competitors can harm our rankings. But Google says they can't! So?
     
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    Firstly learn to develop ur site rather targeting ur competition !!!
     
  11. dotcomdesigns

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    What else can they say - yeah btw if you send 100k Scrapebox blasts at a competitor it will send them dancing for weeks maybe months.

    And for those sad f*cks that do that, grow up and try and rank your own sites rather than destroying other businesses that may well have family to feed.
     
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    Absolutely but the karma part is crap meant to keep people in line. There is no karma, I mean look at what is happening in Syria and Afghanistan...

    The only karma is that humans can create a living hell on earth all by their own actions.
     
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    Does this mean I can blast my new sites? :rolleyes:
     
  14. LazySeoEr

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    Thanks for the post, but I would like to make one point.

    There is nothing in that answer except for the last paragraph or so where he states "there is nothing... etc." a competitor can do to hurt your rankings.

    Aside from that, he doesn't state how this can be differentiated inside google's datacenters..

    As well as its extremely plausible he's not allowed to say, "THERE ARE WAYS competitors can hurt your rankings." If you're google and you run a business based on relevant search queries that can be manipulated by a couple hundred computers, would that not simply undermine google's credibility?

    I'm not saying you are right or wrong, but based on the fact they can't say that, as well as the several people saying they get webmaster reports for "webmaster link building campaigns," how on earth are they gonna differentiate the USER behind the campaign?

    There isn't a way.
     
  15. maggie1982

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    Yes, I agree with you, Kingofbigmac. Even in the virtual world that we live in, people should still continue to respect each other. We can beat our competitors by learning more about their mode of operation, not ruining them.

    Karma is now digital!
     
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     Absolutely but the karma part is crap meant to keep people in line.  There is no karma, I mean look at what is happening in Syria and  Afghanistan...
    Liked the First Part and Disliked the Second Part. Look at what happens in Syria and Afghanistan is totally right. But if they are being fucked up 2day , Who know how much power they will be tomorrow. I mean America hasn't been here 100 years ago and it's already bitching every civilization in the world ( Of course no offense to Americans we are talking about governments here ).

    So, Yeah , I don't believe in Karma but I totally believe in Justice. And OF COURSE UR ACTIONS MAKES U STRONG OR WEAK. It's Ur Choice. Isn't this the Concept or BHW anyway :) ! Trying to Control Our Life...
     
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    So if this is true then we should be able to build as many backlinks to our site without getting penalized, and I think we know that is not true.
     
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    From my experience, many people confuse on-page SEO and off-page SEO -- even experts! It's not because you build blackhat/greyhat links that your website needs to look spammy as well. If your website is completely whitehat (unique high-quality content, no keyword stuffing, no hidden text and so on), there is no way for Google to know if the blackhat/greyhat links come for you or not.

    I believe that almost nothing can hurt a competitor (under certain conditions), and that therefore, it is almost impossible to hurt your own website. Sure, if it's new or if you are really stupid, you can get it sandboxed for a while, but it will ultimately come back stronger.

    Blackhat/greyhat links + Pure whitehat website = Win
     
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  19. RAYRAY7

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    The reality begs to differ. Google is a big snake and puts out propaganda to confuse, intimidate and hide true search result metrics.

    The Seo world mimics the real world, some people would do anything to get ahead. If you want to see deadly combat, go after certain keywords.

    It might be true competitors cannot harm your site, but they can make your rankings suffer and Google would be the punisher.

    Seo is not for the timid and i would not put any trust into what Google says on this topic, because it is a lie and they know it!
     
  20. MrBeastsOnToast

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    "Hi Im Matt Cutts - Its possible to harm your competitors rankings. But im asking you SUPER NICE not to do it please"

    lol what do you expect them to say? Because they sure as sh*t aint gonna admit its possible. When it clearly is.

    its shit to do, and shouldn't be done, and i don't do it - but what your saying OP is obviously incorrect.
     
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